• rumba@lemmy.zip
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    6 days ago

    This is a graph showing that a fair number of them actually just chose the bear.

    • RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com
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      They’re so wrong to do so in such a vindictive way.

      … but that doesn’t mean they’re not doing it. People are petty, including men.

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        I’m honestly not sure it’s even vindictive. Maybe in some cases, it’s a big complicated issue.

        We get such different news in the age of algorithms, they may not even see it as vindictive. I think it’s easy to pull back from a group that paints your identity as a villain, and I think that’s likely some of it.

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      They are choosing it because Theo Von / Shane Gillis / Tony Hinchcilff / Dana White / Joe Rogan / UFC / Russian propaganda / random MAGA streamers.

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    That statistic makes sense when considering less of the liberal and/or left turned out while the right held their numbers. Guess the right is more effective at getting their youth to participate in the system while the left in this age range are more disenfranchised every generation.

  • NeilBru@lemmy.world
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    The “man or bear in the woods” question is obvious ragebait. Thinking people don’t entertain hyperbolic hypotheticals that are proposed to sow divisive rhetoric.

    The gender war is a psy-op proxy for the class war.

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      There’s also a TON left unsaid in it. Is the man armed? are you armed? Is it a hiking path? Is it the middle of the forest? Are you camping or just walking? what kinda bear? is the bear just walking or is it attacking?

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        You’re overthinking it; those questions are totally irrelevant to the point. Though, to be fair, the question doesn’t exactly specify this at face value.

        It’s really just a thought experiment: would you rather take your chances, alone, with a random bear/man in the woods? You don’t get a weapon. You dont get to choose which man or which bear, or what they do. It’s a gamble.

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          If I’m in the woods, it’s because I don’t need nor want human interaction. Please pick the bear and leave me the fuck alone thanks.

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      Pretty much.

      In hiking groups, certain people bring it up, and it’s the kind of people you expect.

      The rest of us just go hiking

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    I think in this situation it is probably more important to look into why more than half the population chose Trump.

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    God, the whole of Lemmy is such a meme right now; the majority of women voted Trump as well!

    Lmao!..

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      I think the ones who didn’t vote for Harris are desperately rationalizing to blame Trump on somebody besides themselves.

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      Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah no. Either Musk or Putin learned how to hack without detection. It’s WHOLLY unlikely that majorities of women were polled, a gender gap was polled, and somehow that all magically disappeared. That is a STRONG indicator of hacking.

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          So far second highest recorded turn out and it will be weeks for the final number. Keep in mind spoiled ballots will get added at some point (to the turnout count not to actually count)

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        2020 had some of the easiest voting rules in US history, with universal no excuse mail in.

        Democrats were more likely to mail in votes than Republicans. So (largely Republican) states cracked down on mail in voting shortly after the election.

        The participation plunge you’re seeing is largely the result of that decision

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      Why would you use the word meme in your analysis if your problem is that the content is meme-like

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      ya, but what if you pretend that women are some monolithic left-wing force that totally would take the bear, instead of people? the bear v. man is literally a left wing bubble thing.

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        Its weird that the same group of people are ignoring women’s ability of independent thoughts and actions are the same ones saying (not unreasonably) the other side is dehumanizing women.

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    It’s amazing how I’ve never ever seen a single thread on this metaphor and not seen at least two to three male users get furious and thus prove the metaphor 100% correct. Not once. Every single time. It’s like catnip they can’t resist it.

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    7 days ago

    Correct me if im wrong, not American;

    People in your family can know if you register to vote as a dem o rep right? I suspect that if voting registration was anonymous like normal countries a lot less white women would have voted for trump

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      I’m in California, and the only things party registration seem to affect are (1) (important) which primary you vote in and (2) (not so much) what type of political spam you get, not the amount.

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      You don’t have to be registered under a specific party I think. I’m not American, but you can register as an independent. And you don’t have to vote for the party you’re registered for. Actually I have no idea why you even register for certain parties in the first place

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        It’s so you can participate in primary elections for that party. Some people who vote Dem in the general election will sometimes register as Republican so that they can vote for spoiler candidates in the Republican primary. There’s not enough people doing it for that plan to really have any impact though.

        But the same logic applies if you are trying to hide your votes from nosy family. Family members have enough info on you to be able to look up your party registration so if you are afraid of them causing drama, you can register as whatever party the rest of your family is registered as and then vote for the other side in the general election. The actual votes you cast cannot be traced back to you… Which can raise other concerns like not being able to verify if your vote actually counted.

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      Registration doesn’t require a party affiliation.

      Party affiliation doesn’t require voting for the party you’ve affiliated with.

      Who/what you voted for is anonymous.

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      Yeah, but there are a LOT of white women in the south.

      Absentee ballots are cool and all, I’m sure southern husbands and fathers love being able to ‘check everyone voted properly’.

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        I get your larger points, but do you really believe millions of women had their vote “verified” by their brother or husband??

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            but are those women so feeble that they just did what they were told? In PA MI WI??? This reeks of hacked elections.

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            These are the same chucklefucks who still do purity rings and dad-daughter “promise” dances, yeah the attitude of women as property still exists in large swaths of this country

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                The religious wacko part or the voting? The former has been going on for a loooong time, the latter I think is a combo of voter apathy, intense propaganda and the result of decades of planning by conservatives who hated having to abandon Deutchsland for Argentina

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                  The sensational headline you sought out doesn’t actually describe what these laws are in place for (but, hey, that’s why you lot always go looking for sensation headlines! Nobody ever reads what’s actually going on anyway!)

                  Oh I see. You just hate that men get any kind of thought in cases of pregnancy during divorce.

                  Women should be allowed to get pregnant (by her husband or otherwise) then divorce the asshole and claim alimony and child support based on their word alone!!

                  All of these laws are in place to give the husband at least a TINY chance to present a case for themselves. Even then, courts generally side with women anyway, so it usually doesn’t matter.

                  But whatever, FUCK THOSE MEN!! THEY SHOULD ALL GO TO HELL AND PAY ME MY MONEY!!!

      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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        You know, I read shit like this and even though they had their fuckups, I recognize my parents did some major things right. We had family voting might, amicably discussed the candidates and issues, and then they showed us you could knowingly vote differently and still be a loving family.

        Open fascists weren’t on our ballots until recently which made disagreement significantly more palatable. Talking about the rest of the ballot tho, honestly on some measures I don’t care that much and others in my family do. I’ll gladly lend my voice/vote on issues my family cares about if they’ll do the same for me (and they have).

        • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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          Open fascists weren’t on our ballots until recently

          Nixon was fash af. Reagan wasn’t much better. The white Christian nationalism of the modern conservative movement has been around for a long time