• just_another_person@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      Land wars aren’t about munitions, they are about policy. Literally look at any land war in history and find this to be true. Social impact on an armed force is the issue, not the munitions. The US is not providing arms with a little note that says “By the way, have a fun day killing Palestinians.”

      The culture is the issue, not the munitions.

      Next.

      • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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        1 month ago

        2000-lb bombs don’t kill Palestinians, the IDF kills Palestinians?

        That’s a shitty argument for making sure they have the bombs to do it with.

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            1 month ago

            You’re not being realistic. You’re being dismissive. You have been presented with ways to stop the genocide and you don’t want to hear any of them. And now you’ve switched from “Next.” and “BYE” to “Keep going.”

            But what you will never do is entertain any suggestion that might end the genocide. Well, except one: Keep sending them weapons and say absolutely nothing until the genocide is complete.

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              Friend. The realism is that your complaining on the Internet will not stop any of this. You are not an activist, activists can’t stop this, and this is happening.

              Get with fucking reality. What you are seeing RIGHT NOW is the world in action. If you think that complaining here is doing a goddamn thing, you are absolutely mistaken. Go do something more useful with your time. I’m just explaining the world to people as it happens to be right now.

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                    1 month ago

                    I am. It’s why I noticed that you’re completely uninterested in anything at all that isn’t silent acquiescence.

                    You may be willing to remain silent, but others are not. Maybe it won’t accomplish anything, but blithely sitting by and accepting helplessness while being dragged into complicity with genocide sure as fuck won’t.

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          Okay, cool. Think that about every land war you’ve seen since the dawn of the modern age and tell me how that’s an incorrect statement. I think two world wars and some folks in Vietnam would have some enlightened conversations for you.

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            the two world wars were incredibly famously about logistics

            the us spent literally billions of dollars attempting to stymie viet minh logistics, and failed to do so

            just as a quick question, what in the actual fuck are you talking about? thanks

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              There have been many non-land wars in between. Apparently you’re unfamiliar.

              Go read up and come back after you’ve digested all that.

              Bye.

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                i like that you specifically cited the two world wars and vietnam as examples of where logistics didn’t matter, then fell back to “well, many non-land wars exist”

                NON-land wars are even more an expression of logistics, because navies can’t function without logistics, and air forces extremely very definitely can’t function without logistics

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            Backing up, so this isn’t buried in the comment thread. You mention land wars and highlight Vietnam and the world wars.

            When the other commenter replies specifically about how logistics were vital to those wars, you say there were other wars, and when they corner you in that, you insist they aren’t defining land war right?

            I would love to know what you believe the aforementioned enlightened conversations would entail. Just explain it - I’m not going to challenge your explanation. I’m legit curious.
            Preemptively, though - if you’re focusing on what the wars were “about,” rather than how they’re prosecuted, then you’re arguing a moot point. The “about” is meaningless if the participants lack the ability to make war.

            What of the other wars you mention that you haven’t given a name to? Which wars? In what ways do they not fit the bill for logistics?

            And finally, what is your definition for land war, if that’s vital to understanding your comments?

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        Oh ok, so continue arming the country performing genocide and just turn a blind eye. Got it. 👍

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          If the world was just, we wouldn’t have any of this bullshit at all by my calculations, so…

          Not sure what you’re point is, but it’s not helpful whatsoever. Next.

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              No, your post is simply “Stop doing that thing I don’t like”, and my counterpoint and the rest of the human history says “THATS NOT HOW THAT FUCKING WORKS. STOP BEING STUPID.”.

              Bye.

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                You seem very intent on making excuses for Israel and deflecting the blame off of them. How much are you getting paid for it?

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                  Nope. Hate what Israel is doing. It’s fucking awful.

                  I’m pragmatic though, and you’re someone who thinks protesting is going to stop bombs. Didn’t work in the 60’s,70’s,80s,90’s,00’s,10’s OR now. But you keep doing what you’re doing and feeling good about it.

                  Next.

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                    Putting public pressure on political figures is a very valid thing to do though. Especially if they are about to run for election in a few months. These people are making sure their voices are heard.