• just_another_person@lemmy.world
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    Nope. Hate what Israel is doing. It’s fucking awful.

    I’m pragmatic though, and you’re someone who thinks protesting is going to stop bombs. Didn’t work in the 60’s,70’s,80s,90’s,00’s,10’s OR now. But you keep doing what you’re doing and feeling good about it.

    Next.

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        Nope. Didn’t change my comment (slay sarcasm at you).

        My point is pretty fucking solid. You want to protest, go for it. Am I for Israel, NOPE.

        Do I think your tone is fucking absolutely pointless and doing zero good for what is happening right now? YUP.

        BYE

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      Putting public pressure on political figures is a very valid thing to do though. Especially if they are about to run for election in a few months. These people are making sure their voices are heard.

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          Vietnam War, English occupation of India, the nuclear disarmament during the cold War, when the Berlin wall fell, the singing revolution that helped the Baltics become independent from the soviet union, removing a dictator from the Phillipines in 1986.

          Even if sometimes the change is not immediate it definitely makes a difference when considering making future policy changes.

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            Whoa. For real? That’s how you see history?

            Bad news, the Vietnam war went on WELL past people stopped protesting about it in Britain and the UK. About 3 years by any averages. People just kept getting sent to die for no reason and no clear objective.

            The Cold War was not “won”, but the USSR did run out of money and nobody would fund them. Nothing to do with protestors though. Hell, one of the last gasps by the “Former USSR” was a dead hand system that said if it ever fell, nuclear nukes would launch. Thank God it didn’t work.

            Bye.

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              Just because the changes didn’t happen right away doesnt mean it didn’t help. Biden stepping down was thanks in large part due to the protests over Israel. He was too unpopular with enough people on swing states that would cause concern.

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                What in the hell are you even talking about? You’re trying to equate current politics with the Cold War, realizing how it ended, and now talking about Biden stepping down?

                Let me be SUPER fucking clear because it’s obvious you don’t understand what is happening right now. The US can’t lose Israel as an Ally. They know this. They also know the US will never stop arming them.

                What in this situation would you like to happen exactly? The US will never allow that region to go back to where it was without and Ally and base of operations. I’m literally asking if you have a better auggt, and your response is useless.

                Give a better solution.

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                  You asked for examples I gave you some. If you don’t like them that’s your problem.

                  Who said about stopping the US from being allies with Israel?

                  The solution is literally to force Israel to stop waging the war. You don’t want to see that as a viable solution and try to deflect when someone posts a very vivid article detailing the horrors Israel is inflicting on innocent children then that’s on you. There’s a lot of people in this world trying to do some kind of good no matter how small. Then there’s evil people Ike you that belittles them and tries to sidestep the whole issue claiming everything they do is useless.

                  It’s quite clear there’s no helping you so continuing to respond to you is a waste of time.

                  Bye.

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            Not sure what this means. You think people in the"western world" were protesting in support of wars?

            I can assure you that was not the case. Fucked up if you got that from your education system.

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              yes people were protesting “in support of” the suez crisis

              yes people were protesting “in support of” the vietnam war

              yes people were protesting “in support of” afghanistan

              you are very intelligent