Many water facilities have been damaged or destroyed by Israel’s war in Gaza, according to the UN and others, compounding the civilian population’s suffering, risking the spread of disease and leading human rights experts to accuse Israel of using water supply as a weapon.
Land wars aren’t about munitions, they are about policy. Literally look at any land war in history and find this to be true. Social impact on an armed force is the issue, not the munitions. The US is not providing arms with a little note that says “By the way, have a fun day killing Palestinians.”
No, your post is simply “Stop doing that thing I don’t like”, and my counterpoint and the rest of the human history says “THATS NOT HOW THAT FUCKING WORKS. STOP BEING STUPID.”.
Nope. Hate what Israel is doing. It’s fucking awful.
I’m pragmatic though, and you’re someone who thinks protesting is going to stop bombs. Didn’t work in the 60’s,70’s,80s,90’s,00’s,10’s OR now. But you keep doing what you’re doing and feeling good about it.
Putting public pressure on political figures is a very valid thing to do though. Especially if they are about to run for election in a few months. These people are making sure their voices are heard.
Okay, cool. Think that about every land war you’ve seen since the dawn of the modern age and tell me how that’s an incorrect statement. I think two world wars and some folks in Vietnam would have some enlightened conversations for you.
Backing up, so this isn’t buried in the comment thread. You mention land wars and highlight Vietnam and the world wars.
When the other commenter replies specifically about how logistics were vital to those wars, you say there were other wars, and when they corner you in that, you insist they aren’t defining land war right?
I would love to know what you believe the aforementioned enlightened conversations would entail. Just explain it - I’m not going to challenge your explanation. I’m legit curious.
Preemptively, though - if you’re focusing on what the wars were “about,” rather than how they’re prosecuted, then you’re arguing a moot point. The “about” is meaningless if the participants lack the ability to make war.
What of the other wars you mention that you haven’t given a name to? Which wars? In what ways do they not fit the bill for logistics?
And finally, what is your definition for land war, if that’s vital to understanding your comments?
i like that you specifically cited the two world wars and vietnam as examples of where logistics didn’t matter, then fell back to “well, many non-land wars exist”
NON-land wars are even more an expression of logistics, because navies can’t function without logistics, and air forces extremely very definitely can’t function without logistics
You’re not being realistic. You’re being dismissive. You have been presented with ways to stop the genocide and you don’t want to hear any of them. And now you’ve switched from “Next.” and “BYE” to “Keep going.”
But what you will never do is entertain any suggestion that might end the genocide. Well, except one: Keep sending them weapons and say absolutely nothing until the genocide is complete.
Friend. The realism is that your complaining on the Internet will not stop any of this. You are not an activist, activists can’t stop this, and this is happening.
Get with fucking reality. What you are seeing RIGHT NOW is the world in action. If you think that complaining here is doing a goddamn thing, you are absolutely mistaken. Go do something more useful with your time. I’m just explaining the world to people as it happens to be right now.
I am. It’s why I noticed that you’re completely uninterested in anything at all that isn’t silent acquiescence.
You may be willing to remain silent, but others are not. Maybe it won’t accomplish anything, but blithely sitting by and accepting helplessness while being dragged into complicity with genocide sure as fuck won’t.
Land wars aren’t about munitions, they are about policy. Literally look at any land war in history and find this to be true. Social impact on an armed force is the issue, not the munitions. The US is not providing arms with a little note that says “By the way, have a fun day killing Palestinians.”
The culture is the issue, not the munitions.
Next.
Oh ok, so continue arming the country performing genocide and just turn a blind eye. Got it. 👍
If the world was just, we wouldn’t have any of this bullshit at all by my calculations, so…
Not sure what you’re point is, but it’s not helpful whatsoever. Next.
My point has been clear from my first comment to you.
No, your post is simply “Stop doing that thing I don’t like”, and my counterpoint and the rest of the human history says “THATS NOT HOW THAT FUCKING WORKS. STOP BEING STUPID.”.
Bye.
You seem very intent on making excuses for Israel and deflecting the blame off of them. How much are you getting paid for it?
Nope. Hate what Israel is doing. It’s fucking awful.
I’m pragmatic though, and you’re someone who thinks protesting is going to stop bombs. Didn’t work in the 60’s,70’s,80s,90’s,00’s,10’s OR now. But you keep doing what you’re doing and feeling good about it.
Next.
think you confused yourself
the question wasn’t “what can protesting do to make it stop”
it was “offer a solution to make it stop”
Nope. Didn’t change my comment (slay sarcasm at you).
My point is pretty fucking solid. You want to protest, go for it. Am I for Israel, NOPE.
Do I think your tone is fucking absolutely pointless and doing zero good for what is happening right now? YUP.
BYE
Putting public pressure on political figures is a very valid thing to do though. Especially if they are about to run for election in a few months. These people are making sure their voices are heard.
Name one time is changed the course of a war.
“land wars aren’t about logistics” is the single most clueless statement i’ve ever heard
Okay, cool. Think that about every land war you’ve seen since the dawn of the modern age and tell me how that’s an incorrect statement. I think two world wars and some folks in Vietnam would have some enlightened conversations for you.
Backing up, so this isn’t buried in the comment thread. You mention land wars and highlight Vietnam and the world wars.
When the other commenter replies specifically about how logistics were vital to those wars, you say there were other wars, and when they corner you in that, you insist they aren’t defining land war right?
I would love to know what you believe the aforementioned enlightened conversations would entail. Just explain it - I’m not going to challenge your explanation. I’m legit curious.
Preemptively, though - if you’re focusing on what the wars were “about,” rather than how they’re prosecuted, then you’re arguing a moot point. The “about” is meaningless if the participants lack the ability to make war.
What of the other wars you mention that you haven’t given a name to? Which wars? In what ways do they not fit the bill for logistics?
And finally, what is your definition for land war, if that’s vital to understanding your comments?
The United States is not in this war, dipshit.
I did not mention the U.S.
I have, however, reported your comment for violating community rules.
First, you clearly did.
Second, I haven’t.
the two world wars were incredibly famously about logistics
the us spent literally billions of dollars attempting to stymie viet minh logistics, and failed to do so
just as a quick question, what in the actual fuck are you talking about? thanks
There have been many non-land wars in between. Apparently you’re unfamiliar.
Go read up and come back after you’ve digested all that.
Bye.
i like that you specifically cited the two world wars and vietnam as examples of where logistics didn’t matter, then fell back to “well, many non-land wars exist”
NON-land wars are even more an expression of logistics, because navies can’t function without logistics, and air forces extremely very definitely can’t function without logistics
I don’t think you understand what “land-wars” mean. Especially when you actually mentioned world wars…c’mon.
Bye.
no you’re right ww1 and ww2 weren’t world wars
ww1 definitely wasn’t a world war, and ww2, which involved the pacific campaign, definitely didn’t involve logistics in said pacific theater
Exactly. Not equal. Not the same thing. Not a border dispute. NOT Vietnam or Korea, which are exactly those things.
You’re right, you mean Star Wars.
Read up on what land wars mean.
2000-lb bombs don’t kill Palestinians, the IDF kills Palestinians?
That’s a shitty argument for making sure they have the bombs to do it with.
Keep going. Doesn’t make the point any less realistic.
You’re not being realistic. You’re being dismissive. You have been presented with ways to stop the genocide and you don’t want to hear any of them. And now you’ve switched from “Next.” and “BYE” to “Keep going.”
But what you will never do is entertain any suggestion that might end the genocide. Well, except one: Keep sending them weapons and say absolutely nothing until the genocide is complete.
Friend. The realism is that your complaining on the Internet will not stop any of this. You are not an activist, activists can’t stop this, and this is happening.
Get with fucking reality. What you are seeing RIGHT NOW is the world in action. If you think that complaining here is doing a goddamn thing, you are absolutely mistaken. Go do something more useful with your time. I’m just explaining the world to people as it happens to be right now.
You’re gloating because you’re getting what you want.
How am I “gloating” when I’m also saying this is the absolute worst of humanity?
JFC you’re dense. BE FUCKING REAL for a minute.
I am. It’s why I noticed that you’re completely uninterested in anything at all that isn’t silent acquiescence.
You may be willing to remain silent, but others are not. Maybe it won’t accomplish anything, but blithely sitting by and accepting helplessness while being dragged into complicity with genocide sure as fuck won’t.
Just telling you the reality. Nothing you do will change the course of what is going on.