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    To be fair, it looks like a joke costume he put on for some occasion. But I find it ironic that the laws being pushed by his political group would still make it illegal.

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        Dressing for fun, or dressing to mock people?

        Either way, that $5 Spirit clearance Halloween wig is gatekeeping itself from drag.

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      It’s definitely a joke costume, but did we let that stop us with the couch?

      Let’s start putting out the word that we support JD Vance having access to all the gender-affirming care he needs.

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      For real, me and a friend went to a costume party as Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton back in college. It was hilarious, we even acted the parts. I’ll admit I was a little nervous walking into a frat house dressed like that, but the cheers we got made it all worthwhile.

      This is normal human behavior that the people he’s with want to criminalize.

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      I remember some college dudes infiltrating an ‘old boys’ club that had a lot of conservative high office politicians. The camera caught Rude-y Ghouliani doing a little drag performance for some people at a table with this big grin on his face then he sees the camera and it’s MAGNIFICENT to see his face drop and turn to stone.

      This was early in the days of youtube.

      I mean, look anyone can wear what they want as long as it covers the naughty bits when they are in public, but to actively work to make life hell for trans people while privately crossdressing for friends as a joke is just disgusting beyond words.

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    And so what if he did? Are democrats going to start shaming crossdressers now?!

    I mean, I won’t vote for him either way (I’m voting 3rd party), but I am seeing a lot hypocrisy in the comments.

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      It’s not about what he did then. It’s about what he’s done and said since then.

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        So let me get this straight: When Republicans shame and name-call, it’s horrible and -phobic. But when Democrats do it, it’s out of revenge and just pointing it out, so it’s ok.

        So you guys can do it, but they can’t.

        Ok, good to know. This is why I won’t be voting Democrat. Or Republican. Because both parties really ARE the same. Thank goodness for 3rd parties!

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          You don’t get it, that’s right! lol

          It’s always bad. When your guys do it, they’re serious. When our peeps do it, it’s satire. That you don’t get the difference makes it even worse for you and the joke funnier for us.

          Keep it up, jerks!

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            When your guys do it

            Who do you mean? I’m not republican.

            When our peeps do it, it’s satire. That you don’t get the difference makes it even worse for you and the joke funnier for us.

            So making fun of a guy who decides to dress as a female, is “satire”? Do you think other transgender people think it’s “satire” when people laugh at them?

            I’m not Republican, so you can steer your hate into a different direction. I’m as far from Republican as someone can be. lol

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                Feel free to look up my post history and the mods I have started. I’m a Green Party Socialist. About as far from Repubican as you can get. I am also pro-education, and pro-union.

                So yeah, go check out the communities I have started and supported.

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                  why would i do extra work just to make you feel better? lmao

                  if it quacks like a duck and steps like a goose…

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              You’ve commented like 3 dozen times in this thread and added NOTHING of value to the conversation.

              You just piss and moan and give hot takes that get debunked in 2 sentences.

              You’re fucking boring lmao

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                You’ve commented like 3 dozen times in this thread and added NOTHING of value to the conversation.

                I’ve replied to comments and gave people my reasons. If you don’t like it, move on. But them telling me over and over that Stein is a Russian stooge or that I am helping Trump win, add nothing to the conversation either.

                If I’m so boring, then why are so many of you wanting to argue with me? Please remember the civility rule of this sub.

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      I think the reason this story is getting attention, and derision, is that Vance is part of a political group that is shaming others for things they themselves have done. They are rightfully being shamed for their hypocrisy.

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        So let me get this straight: When Republicans shame and name-call, it’s horrible and -phobic. But when Democrats do it, it’s out of revenge and just pointing it out, so it’s ok.

        So you guys can do it, but they can’t.

        Ok, good to know. This is why I won’t be voting Democrat. Or Republican. Because both parties really ARE the same. Thank goodness for 3rd parties!

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              LMAO. No. Dude. You have not actually gotten it straight. The shame is in the hypocrisy. Its not about whether or not he wore drag. Its about him coming from a party who shames people FOR wearing drag. The shame is about them being derisive over things like wearing drag. Then they turn around the hypocritically have done the very things they are shaming others for doing. That’s what you don’t get.

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                The shame is in the hypocrisy.

                And that is fine to point it out. But I see many posts making fun of him. Which is stooping to the level of Republicans.

                So yes, I “get” it. And yes, I have it straight. Many of you all are doing the same thing, and using the same techniques, that the Republicans do.

                See, point out hypocrisy is what I did in my original post. That’s what YOU don’t get.

                I’m not Republican, nor am I Democrat–I’m 3rd party. So you guys keep doing what you are doing, but I’ll keep calling out the hypocrisy that I see. Cool?

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              57 people show that you did. It’s about hypocrisy, and your ignorance of this only shows how silly and disingenuous you are.

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                57 people show that you did.

                I don’t know what that means or what the context is. 57 people show that I did what? I don’t understand.

                and your ignorance of this only shows how silly and disingenuous you are.

                I can be pretty ignorant. And silly. But I’m not being disingenuous.

                Dude, just because I don’t vote for the same person as you do, doesn’t make me “disingenuous.”

                Please remember the civility rule of this sub.

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                  I do not vote in the US as I’m not from there.

                  I’m not being uncivil and do not need reminders from you.

                  The topic is about hypocrisy. You ignoring this is being disingenuous, deliberately ignoring the point of this article and why people have heavily down voted you.

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      Ignore these liberals. Vote green every election if that’s your preference. These idiots don’t know shit beyond voting blue no matter who. American elections are so fucking broke that these people will draw blood if you dont vote for their pet warmonger candidate. The exclusion of third parties from debates is criminal and has created these legions of knuckledraggers.

      Weird too, I thought Lemmy was a reprieve from normie tier politics. Embarrassing, go back to reddit all you fucking liberal trash.

      If Copmala doesn’t reflect your values then don’t vote for her. If that cOStS HeR vOtEs then so be it. Don’t fall for the meme of having to support the lesser evil.

      Also if you think Stein is a RuSSiAn AsSeT please get your fucking head checked. You are not immune to propaganda and you’ve fell for it. Dumbfucks.

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        So let me get this straight: When Republicans shame and name-call, it’s horrible and -phobic. But when Democrats do it, it’s out of revenge and just pointing it out, so it’s ok.

        So you guys can do it, but they can’t.

        Ok, good to know. This is why I won’t be voting Democrat. Or Republican. Because both parties really ARE the same. Thank goodness for 3rd parties!

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          No one believes that you have any sincere belief in this nonsense that doesn’t make a shred of sense.

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            Some things are true, whether you belive them or not. Feel free to look at my post history and the communities I have created on this sub. Why would I do all that just to fake my support?

            Ok, you don’t like 3rd parties. Ok, cool. Don’t vote for them. I’m voting Green, even if you don’t like it. As is my right.

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              The thing about many disingenuous people is that they normally don’t give up on their deception immediately

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                So keep going thru your life being suspicious and assuming the worst in everyone who disagrees with you.

                Feel free to look at my post history and the communities I mod. Seriously, go look them up.

                I mod 10 communities. For colleges, teacher aides, the green party, socialists, etc.

                I have no reason to lie, and what possible purpose would I have for doing it an overwhelming pro-democrat sub like c/politics?!

                People hate me, all because I am voting Green Party.

                Does that sound like a successful vast russian conspiracy media manipulation operation to you?!

                I even have people from this sub brigading and going into the communities I started, and downvoting.

                They are downvoting my articles about unions and how important teachers aides are in special education.

                One of my communities has 3 subscribers. Yes, just 3. But I have a post there that has 35 downvotes.

                35 DOWNVOTES!! In a sub that has 3 subscribers.

                If I were a russian (or whatever country this sub hates today) media manipulation employee, I’d be finding myself “suicided” out a 10 story window by now.

                Come on, now.

                It’s not that deep. I like Jill Stein. I like the Green Party. I’m voting for her.

                That’s it. That’s all there is to it.

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          Republicans “shame” all people who do that every day as a normal part of their person for whatever reason. Republicans shame the mere existence of people.

          Democrats are, in this specific circumstance, are shaming a man who claims wearing women’s clothes is immoral for dressing in women’s clothing. If it’s so immoral, why is he comfortable doing it?

          This is like saying terrorists and aid workers both wear pants, so it’s okay to bomb them both.

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            Republicans “shame” all people who do that every day as a normal part of their person for whatever reason. Republicans shame the mere existence of people.

            And now you guys are doing it.

            Democrats are, in this specific circumstance, are shaming a man who claims wearing women’s clothes is immoral for dressing in women’s clothing. If it’s so immoral, why is he comfortable doing it?

            By you shaming him now, makes it seem even more immoral.

            You guys are doing EXACTLY what republicans do, but you seem to think it’s ok. They shame, so now you shame. Wow, edgy.

            I’m glad I’m not voting for either of the main 2 parties.

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                Not even close. Feel free to check out the communities I’ve started here on lemmy. I’m a Green Party Socialist.

                I know that doesn’t fit your narrative that everyone who is against you, MUST be a Republican.

                Feel free to check my post history if ya don’t believe me, comrade.

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                Nononono see they’re voting for the worm brain who thinks 9/11 was an inside job. Totally different!

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            Notice how you both shame. Two wrongs don’t make a right, friend.

            Also, you think the people who shoot up churches do it because of the Republican party?! What?!

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              You are a media manipulator account, I have been keeping an eye on you for the last few days and if the admins had any sense they would IP ban you right the fuck now.

              You are exactly the kind of person that started reddit’s decline.

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                You are a media manipulator account, I have been keeping an eye on you for the last few days and if the admins had any sense they would IP ban you right the fuck now.

                What?! I have over 10 years of history on Reddit, following my same causes, under this same username. Feel free to go on Reddit and find me and look at my post history.

                Creepy that you have been “keeping an eye on” me “for the last few days.”

                But if you were paying attention, you’d see I’ve posted pics of myself wearing my Jill Stein shirt. I have started 10 Lemmy communities in order to boost content for Lemmy as an alternative to Reddit. My communities have been about colleges I’ve attended and am attending, a food replacement shake, a workout forum, a community for Teacher’s Assistants and the important role of teachers and teacher’s unions, a socialist community, and a Green party committee, and one of a file-sharing religion.

                And THAT makes you think I am a media manipulator account?! Dude I’m old enough remember when Moon Missions were shown on TV.

                Because I have views that YOU disagree with and I am not voting for YOUR fav candidate, you’re accusing me of being a manipulator account. What on earth?! Dude, I’ve heard some weird conspiracy theories, but I’ve never been the subject of one!

                Let me guess, I’m getting paid by Russia, right? And how? Is it bitcoin? Maybe cash dropped in the mailbox of my mansion (cuz being a media manipulator should pay well!)? Maybe I get paid in jewels and cars and have a big secret Instagram account too! Right? RIGHT?!

                I don’t know what you are on, or what your issue is, but please step back a bit. Read what you said to me out loud. lol

                I’ve reported you for your lack of civility and how you falsely accused me of being a troll.

                If you don’t wanna agree with my views, cool. If you don’t want to have an adult discussion, cool. But calling me a “media manipulator account” and implying that I’m a troll and that I should be banned because YOU don’t agree with me is too much.

                I’ve reported you and I’ll let the mods do the rest.

                And dude, “watching” me “over the last few days” is weird and creepy. But thank you for thinking I am so important that you need to follow me around!

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          It’s pointing out Hypocrisy. No shame in the act, shame on shaming the act, while doing the act.

          It’s like if you were pro freedom and opted to vote for a Russian asset.

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            It’s pointing out Hypocrisy.

            No, pointing out hypocrisy is pointing out. Making fun of someone and shaming them, just because you think they are a hypocrite is still shit.

            Two wrongs don’t make a right, comrade.

            It’s like if you were pro freedom and opted to vote for a Russian asset.

            I’m not sure what you mean? I’m not voting for a Russian asset. If you have proof of a politician running for president being a Russian asset, please please please send that proof to the major news orgs. That would be major news and destroy whatever party they are part of.

            What’s your proof. I wanna see!

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              Jill Stein has already been destroyed several times over… By herself. When she went on camera to rant about 9/11 being an inside job is only one of them. She’s literally too unimportant for news to cover. If she herself posted right now a video admitting to being hired by Putin, it’s likely most networks wouldn’t even cover it because literally no one takes her seriously. Even you are pretending to

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                That’s your proof?! A photo that has been around forever and that even was discussed in a newsweek article about Jill?! Come on, man. Really?

                Ok, so here ya go: Stein “attended at her own expense to spread a message of peace and diplomacy” and gave a speech in Moscow “in which she criticized the excessive militarism of both Vladimir Putin and U.S. leaders.”

                They added: "The Senate Intelligence Committee later investigated the trip and found no wrongdoing whatsoever. Dr. Stein’s commitment to diplomacy is more needed than ever and stands in stark contrast to the two warmongering ruling parties, which are driving us toward WWIII [World War III] and draining resources urgently needed here at home." https://www.newsweek.com/jill-stein-ties-vladimir-putin-explained-1842620

                Russians tried to divert left leaning voters away from Clinton by boosting Stein’s candidacy. There is zero evidence there that Stein was contacted by Russia or even aware of the way in which her campaign was being hijacked.

                And THAT’S what makes you think she’s a russian asset?! Come on man, be real. So does every politician that is going to meet with foreign people to criticise them, have to worry about being an asset for that country?! lol

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                Weird company for a US candidate to keep and she’s seems to be having a great time at a table full of murders and war crime speed runners.

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                  Stein “attended at her own expense to spread a message of peace and diplomacy” and gave a speech in Moscow “in which she criticized the excessive militarism of both Vladimir Putin and U.S. leaders.”

                  They added: "The Senate Intelligence Committee later investigated the trip and found no wrongdoing whatsoever. Dr. Stein’s commitment to diplomacy is more needed than ever and stands in stark contrast to the two warmongering ruling parties, which are driving us toward WWIII [World War III] and draining resources urgently needed here at home."

                  https://www.newsweek.com/jill-stein-ties-vladimir-putin-explained-1842620

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          There is a time and a place for n-parties in this crappy political environment we are subject to, but this election is simply not it. Voting green or indie in this election dramatically increases the chances of there being only a single viable party for all future “elections” from here on out.

          It’s easy to get jaded, but it’s best to push Republicans out of the picture and foster a more progressive green party in future elections.

          Nothing sustainably good happens quickly in politics, but conversely, our actions in this election can have abrupt, and irreversible consequences.

          I’m not telling to to sit this one out or whatever - you do you, but I do ask you to think of what party you are actively trying to cannibalize and then consider the fallout that may be blowing our way.

          Oh, and for conversations sake, I don’t care about this shame game they are playing right now. This is trivial nit-picking and neither newsworthy nor thread-worthy. Both sides, sure, whatever. There are greater topics like democracy, human rights, voter rights, labor rights etc that are on the table and this "both sides’ nonsense doesn’t not hold up.

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            There is a time and a place for n-parties in this crappy political environment we are subject to, but this election is simply not it.

            Which is the same thing that have said for the last 50 years. Every single election, it’s variations of. "Oh yes, there needs to be change. But not THIS election. THIS election is too important!

            50 years. So no, not believing that anymore. The time to do what I believe in is right now.

            It’s easy to get jaded, but it’s best to push Republicans out of the picture and foster a more progressive green party in future elections.

            Ok what about all the years that Democrats have been in office? Clinton was two terms. Obama was two terms. And all the ones before that? No, fam. Not trusting that any more.

            I’m not telling to to sit this one out or whatever - you do you, but I do ask you to think of what party you are actively trying to cannibalize

            Good, cuz I’m NOT sitting this one out. I’m voting for the party I believe in. The Green Party. And I’m not “actively trying to cannibalize” any party. What? How on earth are you getting that I am doing that, by me voting for the party I believe in?!

            I’m voting for Jill Stein. Because I like her. Because I like her values. That’s it. No grand conspiracy. I’m voting for who I want to. As is my right.

            Oh, and for conversations sake, I don’t care about this shame game they are playing right now. This is trivial nit-picking and neither newsworthy nor thread-worthy. Both sides, sure, whatever. There are greater topics like democracy, human rights, voter rights, labor rights etc that are on the table and this "both sides’ nonsense doesn’t not hold up.

            Agreed. Why people are focusing on this or the couch or calling people “weird” or whatever is beyond me. People, we have REAL issues to deal with. And both parties are scraping as low as they can to fling some mud. It’s crazy. lol

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      I think his support of Don’t Say Gay laws shames cross dressers, but maybe that’s just me. All I know, is it’s hard for the right to have transphobia when their VP nominee dresses as a woman

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        So let me get this straight: When Republicans shame and name-call, it’s horrible and -phobic. But when Democrats do it, it’s out of revenge and just pointing it out, so it’s ok.

        So you guys can do it, but they can’t.

        Ok, good to know. This is why I won’t be voting Democrat. Or Republican. Because both parties really ARE the same. Thank goodness for 3rd parties!

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          No one is shaming him for wearing drag, they’re shaming him for hypocrisy. It’s so easy to understand and you’re trying so obviously hard not to get it that there’s no way this can be considered a good faith argument.

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            No one is shaming him for wearing drag, they’re shaming him for hypocrisy.

            That’s not what I am seeing in the comments. I am seeing them making fun of him.

            I’m all for calling out hypocrisy, hence my original post. But shaming and making fun of them, just because they do the same shit isn’t cool.

            Two wrongs don’t make a right, comrade.

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              No one is shaming him for wearing drag, they’re shaming him for hypocrisy.

              That’s not what I am seeing in the comments. I am seeing them making fun of him.

              Making fun of him is different than shaming him for dressing in drag. I didn’t check every comment but definitely none of the top level ones or popular ones were shaming him for dressing in drag.

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          Even if you were right about the conclusion that both parties shame people because of who they are, that doesn’t remotely make the parties the same for everything. This is like the people who say they’re tired of the Democratic party so they’ll be voting Republican…the stance on so many issues is like night and day, how can they be “the same”? Democrats have their problems, and I myself prefer the more progressive members (that are growing), but to throw it all out because of a few disagreements and go full “the other side” is crazy.

          Vote for whomever, it’s your right, but I’ve never been a fan of the Green Party in all its past faces, or Libertarians, or many others because of the same reasons. You don’t go to a different party because you’re mad at another one, you go because you think they have a better position on issues. I don’t think any of those minor third parties ever have, even if Democrats aren’t perfect. Change the party from the inside, don’t switch teams. Especially in a First Past the Post system where the math is always going to prevent you changing what you think you’re changing.

          I will say I do see your point you started with, and I try to keep the high road in my own life because I see personal attacks as missing an opportunity to call out the real problems. One can still take that direction and not get into the slinging matches and still call out people being liars and hypocrites. I wouldn’t jump ship just because some other Democrat voters go lower…it’s not even the party you’re arguing with, but other citizens that happen to be probably favoring that party.

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            I will say I do see your point you started with, and I try to keep the high road in my own life because I see personal attacks as missing an opportunity to call out the real problems. One can still take that direction and not get into the slinging matches and still call out people being liars and hypocrites. I wouldn’t jump ship just because some other Democrat voters go lower

            Thank you. I didn’t jump ship just because of this. I have been a 3rd party supporter for a while, and the Green Party aligns with more of my values.

            I would have totally voted for Bernie Sanders tho!

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              I did in the primaries. Because I felt that he might be able to make a difference while using the Democrat flag to have that power. If he had run as independent I wouldn’t have though. Like I said, I’m hopeful only because of the gradual change within the House to a more progressive membership, slowly but surely, and that’s the only way we’ll ever get true change both in the nation and in the party. My optimal dream is to have the Republican party splinter apart and lose power, allowing the Democrats to also separate into its own different stances, but that’s going to really need a change in a voting system to be more than a singular event.

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                My optimal dream is to have the Republican party splinter apart and lose power, allowing the Democrats to also separate into its own different stances, but that’s going to really need a change in a voting system to be more than a singular event.

                Sure, but meh, that’s part of democracy. I don’t mind their being opposing parties. I don’t like that there are just TWO of them that people seem to think are the only options. So I’m not being a part of that, and I’m voting for who I think is the best fit.

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        Yes I am. Even if you are bullying and making fun of me. I’m proudly voting Green. And I even started the Green Party community here on Lemmy.

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          You have to play to the rules as they are written, not as you want them to be.

          Any vote for a third party in a US presidential election is a vote against your preferred major candidate . It’s really really simple.

          It’s a very sad indictment of how broken their electoral system is but reality is what it is.

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            I’m still voting Chase Oliver, unlike a certain somebody he’s spoken out against genocide. I refuse in good consciousness vote for somebody who is willing to fund a genocide unless pressured enough.

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            You have to play to the rules as they are written, not as you want them to be.

            No. Not I don’t. Be the change you wanna see. I’m voting Green Party, because I want to, I believe in them, and it’s my right as an American citizen.

            Any vote for a third party in a US presidential election is a vote against your preferred major candidate .

            Nope, my vote for Stein, is a vote for Jill Stein. Accept it.

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              Thanks.

              Looks like the sub is being heavily brigaded by the major parties, but that’s okay. Let them cope with how miserable their parties are.

              Let yourself be happy supporting a party you can actually feel good about.

              Be on the right side of history.

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                Looks like the sub is being heavily brigaded by the major parties,

                Oh it is. And my dm’s are crazy and scary too. lol

                The other day I posted a news article about the Green Party, and holy crap! That shit storm was crazy. People are NOT happy that there are even other options out there.

                If there’s at least one thing the two major parties agree on, is that they don’t wanna take a chance and losing their strangle hold on American politics by giving any 3rd party a chance. lol

                But thank you for your support and saying that. I’m not going anywhere. Even if the Dems and Repubs are really really mad about it. :)

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                Brigaded from… Where? Because people don’t agree with you? Stein is why we got Trump in the first place.

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                  The sub is for people who support the Green Party. But people who do not support the Green Party are showing up and downvoting everything positive (and upvoting everything negative). That’s what I mean by a brigade.

                  Stein is why we got Trump in the first place.

                  Well then maybe the Democrats should try being less crap.

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                  Brigaded from… Where?

                  From here. There are people in this sub going into every single community I started and downvoting eery single post. Not just green party posts. I mean, posts that discussed the importance of Special Education teachers. Posts that discussed a 90 year old woman finally graduation from college, etc.

                  And if you are wondering how I would know they are being brigade, let me give you an example. I had on community with just 3 subscribers. yeah, just 3. One of my posts, had over 40 downvotes.

                  I’ve also had posts, in my communities with NOT subscribers, be downvoted immediately after posting. And I have gotten messages from at least 2 people in this sub, who have said they “follow” me around on Lemmy to “just keep an eye” on me.

                  both have been reported to admin.

                  And what did I do to get that attention? I mentioned that I’m voting for the Green Party.

                  so yes, I am being brigade for the reason you suggested: people don’t agree with me.

                  I’m pro-union, pro-education. And my mods supporting and advocating for that are getting massive downvotes, even tho I don’t have any subscribers in them! lololol

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          Your party is a Russian op to siphon votes from Democrats.

          Jill Stein is a Putin lackey (not to mention a fucking idiot).

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            That’s very edgy of you! I mean, now I will totally change my mind, because you tried to make a meme! Perfect plan! Good job! So who should I vote for? I mean, that’s what you want, right? You want to bully people into voting for your candidate.

            And since BOTH parties do that, I’m unsure which party you’re with.

            And yeah, I’m happy I started a Green Party community. At least I’m being the change i wanna see. I’m contributing. You…well you’re trying to be a bully.

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          You signed up three days ago. The community isn’t one until it’s active. But hey, keep up the good work, “woke-free” champion.

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            You signed up three days ago.

            Yes, I did. Is there supposed to be a waiting period before we can start posting and creating communities? How long did YOU wait after you signed up, before you started posting?

            Because I started posting right when I signed up. And I created communities I was interested in. Also, I only created the Green Party because so many Lemmy’s yelled at me, and stated incorrect information because I posted a Green Party article to this sub.

            So actually you all inspired it! isn’t that awesome!

            The community isn’t one until it’s active.

            Not true. They are called “community” in Lemmy speak. Just like creating a subreddit in Reddit. They are created when…you create one. And I sure am getting plenty of downvotes in the communities, for them not being “active.” Hmmm…

            And if you don’t think my communities count because they haven’t reached whatever number you think is appropriate, then you have nothing to be worried about. Right?

            I mean, after all, I am just a guy, posting to my inactive communities. So seems like I should be of least concern to you. Right?

            But hey, keep up the good work, “woke-free” champion.

            Thank you! I will. Because I refuse to let people bully me just because I have different views than they do. So I plan to continue posting.

            And I’m still voting for 3rd party. And because of all the moaning and stalker messages I have been getting from you guys, I decided to really up my local volunteer efforts for the party, donated to both Stein’s campaign and the Green Party general fund and bought a shirt. So thank you, again! :)

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            Nope. If I wanted to vote for Trump, I’d vote for Trump. No extra steps needed.

            I’m voting for the party I believe in. And it’s the Green Party.

            If your party is so afraid of losing, just because there are third parties, then they should get stronger candidates. Welcome to democracy. I get to vote for who I want. As is my right.

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              Yeah, it’s my “right” to watch a person die of heart attack and not dial 911 also, but I’m not a huge asshole so I won’t be needing that “right”

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                Yeah, it’s my “right” to watch a person die of heart attack and not dial 911 also, but I’m not a huge asshole so I won’t be needing that “right”

                So I’m an asshole because I am voting for someone you don’t like?! Ok…

                Please remember our civility rule in this sub.

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                  Please remember that your influence on the vulnerable matters. Voting in a way that is against immigrants, poor, transgender, etc is included in that. Yes, voting any way but against Trump is that.

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              I feel sorry that a vote for a 3rd party (in the US) may lead to the opposition winning and people that vote that way are derided.

              We have Mixed Member Proportional here in NZ and it may not be the best voting system but I think it beats First Past the Post. I also feel the voting for a president / legistave is a bit broken.

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                You don’t have to feel sorry for that particular person, it’s likely they aren’t even able to vote. They are a forum slider here to shift attention away from our only chance to escape fascism.

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                  They are a forum slider here to shift attention away from our only chance to escape fascism

                  You have had several other comments accusing me of this be removed.

                  The reason your comments are being removed is because you are pushing a false narrative about me, and you are being uncivil.

                  You are having your comments removed because you are doing that.

                  And I am reporting you for this one as well.

                  Please remain civil, and don’t falsely accuse me of anything. Thank you.

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                I feel sorry that a vote for a 3rd party (in the US) may lead to the opposition winning and people that vote that way are derided.

                Yes, I too feel that the way I am being derided just because I am voting for who I believe in, is like this.

                People have been bullying me for several days. All because I am voting for the Green Party because I belive in them.

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              I’m voting for the party I believe in.

              Are you really trying to tell Lemmy that you are so delusional that you think there’s even the tiniest of a shred of a chance of a third party victory? If your candidate got 5% of the vote it would be shocking and you know it.

              If your party is so afraid of losing, just because there are third parties

              Third parties are an absolute joke in the US in every case in recent US history. And that is because no serious individual would ever run for president in a scenario where they know without doubt that it’s impossible for them to win. They may all only exist at this point to divert votes away from whomever they hate most.

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                Are you really trying to tell Lemmy that you are so delusional that you think there’s even the tiniest of a shred of a chance of a third party victory?

                I didn’t talk about her odds at all. Should we ONLY vote for people who have a good chance to win? I’m voting for who I believe in. Accept it or not. LIke it or not. I’m still voting for her.

                Third parties are an absolute joke in the US in every case in recent US history.

                Then you have nothing to be afraid of, and no reason to get mad about other. She doesns’t matter, right? So why so mad if I vote for her?

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                  Should we ONLY vote for people who have a good chance to win?

                  Absolutely and unequivocally yes if any Republican is an option. Particularly someone like trump. Not even a moment’s hesitation, the answer should always be yes to that question in this situation.

                  What Internet trolls/shills always try to ignore is that I don’t give a shit who they vote for. We only give you push back because you’re hell bent on spreading bad ideas.

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      3rd party is awesome. That means less votes for fat donald and a larger win for Harris. Thanks bro!

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        Thanks bro!

        You’re welcome, comrade! If me voting for who I want to vote for and who aligns with my values, helps you out, then it’s a win-win!

        Seems that not many people in these parts agree with you and are very very angry with me for voting Green Party.

        But at least you and me got this! Best of luck to you and your candidate!

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    is this why the fascists think all drag queens are pedophiles?

    it’s still wrong, but it makes more sense why they think that now. and way more gross.

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      Nope. Dude was just mocking them. That’s their line. I mean, vance wants to wear eyeliner, cool. Why are we mad at j.d. vance because he wants to pretty his face up a bit?

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        the prettying isn’t a problem. honestly, go nuts. wish more did.

        doing drag isn’t a problem.

        I was suggesting that he’s a pedophile (which is a problem) and him doing drag would be a way to make ‘pedophile drag queens’ happen. technically at least.

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      I’m going for a trifecta: $50 says that…

      • JD Vance is fired by the end of August
      • Trump suffers a heart attack or stroke from the stress of bad ratings polling and dies shortly afterwards
      • Republican party, totally clueless as to what to do tries to put forward a Mike Johnson/JD Vance ticket after loads of completely idiotic infighting that will have everyone scratching their heads, saying, “WTF?”

      Bonus: Ron DeSantis and Marco Rubio will both be pissed beyond belief and still in complete denial that nobody really likes them.

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      There’s a problem with that - Shady Vance was nominated at the RNC convention (unlike Biden who was not yet nominated by 2024 Democratic national convention). Getting rid of Shady will require approval from RNC - not a big deal since Eric’s wife and rest of MAGA lackeys runs RNC these days. Problem is they have to do it before the states publish their general election ballots. Last I heard, the deadline for that was approaching this week.

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      If something would happen along those lines, and I don’t think they will, i think he’ll just be forced to quit, not fired.

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      Everybody should calm it with the jokes for 6 weeks, then unleash all the pent up puns and jokes. 6 weeks before the election should be close enough to not switch veep pick anymore, even for Don the Con

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        Not how it works. The blame will go to staffers which will be demonized as liberal traitors who infiltrated the campaign to hamper his absolute path to victory in November.

        He is the hero who corrected the mistake and now puppy killer K. Noem is the right choice.

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          By RNC rules, Vance would have to step down first. He can’t be replaced unilaterally (though trump could pressure him to do so or the like)

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            Tbf, I could ENTIRELY see a circumstance where Trump “fires” him anyway, Vance doesn’t step down, Trump ignores this and proceeds to pick a new VP even though he technically can’t, and both Vance and new guy spend the remainder of the election desperately trying to get orange senpai to notice them.

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        I mean, his previous administration was a constant revolving door, alluding that he made many mistakes

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        Bruh, trump loves firing people, and his supporters love him firing people.

        There’s no blame on himself when trump fired someone, that’s who’s getting all the blame and usually why they’re being fired.

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        he fired a lot of his own appointees wouldn’t those also be error admissions? Not to mention that he’ll happily gaslight news anchors etc.

        My guess is he picked Vance to secure financial support from silicon valley billionaires and he needs that money more than anything

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      congratulations on waking up from your coma. here’s a summary:

      his party is weirdly obsessed with gender norms and has been demonizing drag queens for years.

      i think you’re now up to date on relevant info.

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    Eewwwww. Keep that weirdo away from the children.

    Not because of the drag, of course. He’s just a weird guy in general.