Lots of drug bashing folks here
idk I feel he’s giving drugs a bad name tbh
How?
Hi, just in case you were wondering, drugs aren’t by default good. They carry risks of all sorts, from killing your liver, cancer, death, addiction, a crutch to avoid dealing with shit, or psychological problems. Too many problems to list. The drug community is usually the first to blame their own when something goes wrong by citing failure to follow some broscience or other old-wives wisdom, or just act like it’s not a problem caused by the drug, just the user. What, didn’t you do a full family psychiatric history before taking (drug) and having a psychotic break? Well, damn…not the drug’s fault.
All that said, I’m not anti-drug, if people want to do that stuff that’s up to them.
No different than someone trying to sell me on drinking more or that alcohol is ok. Ok, maybe I’ll have an extra beer or three, and if someone says that alcohol isn’t great…they’re right. Even if I don’t really want to hear it.
Yes we seem to have gotten to the point of liberalism that “drugs are good”. No, illicit drugs are generally not good, but there are circumstances where they can be useful or better than the legal alternative. They need to be regulated and treated like a health issue rather than a criminal one.
They can’t make money from their racket if they fix the problem by treating it as a health and social issue.
Is there any group discussing long term effects of lsd
“Group”?
Like what?
There are absolutely research papers from legitimate sources that have investigated people’s LSD use and the long-term effects of its use. A ln internet search using those words will get you what you want. “Long term effects of LSD”.
It’s not the kind of research we have in Marijuana. Mostly due to legalisation.
Most of the critical experiments around lsd were done by Hoffman himself
Edit: specifically speaking, controlled studies
That’s a good thing
I haven’t gotten far enough in the comments to see it, but I’m a bit miffed that rich assholes can admit to doing lsd on the national media and be fine, while poor people go away for years for a couple grams of marijuana…
Ye, lmao they acting like he injecting fentanyl, lol.
Damn, execs are required to do drugs and Elon still can’t keep his team together. Dude can’t even nepotism right.
Nepotism is giving positions of power to your family members, tho
I checked the definition before posting and it was good but I could be wrong.
Doesn’t make much sense to me, the way you used it. An example of nepotism might be if you gave your drug dealer a job instead of other candidates just because he is your drug dealer. Doing drugs with employees isn’t necessarily nepotism.
“Why aren’t my subordinates doing drugs with me? I specifically requested it.”
“There he goes again, off to take more pills. Pop, pop.”
Magnitude?
That scene where they’re courting the rich kid and he steals it… horrifying
The actual title contains weasel language, so…
I mean… I’ll do it
I wouldn’t. Having to be around Elon sounds like a waste of drugs.
“Do you mind if I take mine to go, Elon?”
gross. i bet even when he peaks and is in a state of pure bliss, the best anyone could hope for in terms of good company is that he rambles about how great and positive and beneficial and necessary all his ideas are.
Well, they are!
think you might be in the wrong community here, bub.
I noticed, lol. I had never thought people disliked Elon so much before finding this.
Where are you from? I’ve never been to a community who likes him who isn’t actively ignoring how much of a giant piece of shit nepo-baby he is.
To me it sounds like a dream come true.
Let me go pick up my fedora so we can talk as equals and I’ll go.
On the flip side, it might be the only way to be around that turd.
I don’t enjoy my job, and it has led to more drinking. If I had to spend time around Elon, I’d have to be borderline comatose.
Probably true, but it would be worth the Tesla executive salary for a little while.
For those who feel Musty has done no wrong
Search engines are a thing, y’all. This is just one thing I found in a very brief search.
Surprising
: cocaine, LSD, ecstasy, and magic mushrooms
It obvious that Musk is keeping the good S tier stuff for himself and only sharing the B rank stuff with board members.
I’m curious what drugs you have in your S tier
A drug that makes you happy.
Wtf was that??
My apologies for not replying good sir (my notifications are bugged). Drugs of the pharmaceutical variety not normally available by prescription are sometimes S tier. Lets say for instance that Lab grade DMT would be one of them. There are plenty of amphetamine varieties, various opioid and opioid-like varieties along with gabanergics that have been used in studies or even taken off market.
Bull testosterone
Spice
love
Luuuuuudes
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mSpqA4EIKPo
Link is to a public Invidious instance, a privacy respecting front end for YouTube.
Adrenachrome.
Ooh, a hit piece planted in the WSJ. Knives are out.
Dear Elon:
Use the real DRUG, really Wake Up from your Twitter fantasy… www.LazyWake.com
He already spent his early 20’s taking a bunch in acid in the streets of Miami.
So at age 20, he knew what www.LazyWake.com of media messages of James Joyce spelled out, or you ignoring the Lemmy media message?
That does explain most of his decision making.
It’s probably because of his autism, his brain works completely differently than most people and that’s probably why people don’t understand him nor his actions or beliefs.
He has never been officially diagnosed with autism. He just claims he has Asperger’s (no longer an official diagnosis) and uses it as an excuse to do horrible things.
And autism does not excuse the horrible things he says and does.
Too be fair, as a person on the spectrum with very good track record of recognizing other neurodivergents on the spot.
Elon absolutely reads and acts as a neurodivergent and within that group mostly resembles autism.
Having said that, to wield that like an excuse his vile and idiotic behavior is simply wrong.
Everyone on the spectrum is unique, has some great gifts and some deeper flaws. I bet there are intelligent stuff hes good at but i dont believe for second he has what it takes to be a leader of any kind. He’d probably be better suited as an valued assistant to a real expert that knows what task/responsibilities to give and not give to him.
When i look at musk i see a broken person sick with Addiction of money and power.
The majority of autists are very progressives we have huge ties to the roots of the lgbt movement. Many of us have an inherent desire for fairness and equality. But Elon Musk has gone so deep in the rabbithole of finding survival within egocentrism he is beyond saving, no longer having the ability to see the world around it as it is.
Ketamine is psychedelic, those tend to aid the mind into seeing their own flaws and become the better version of themselves. I find it really telling that it does not seem to work on Elon and almost proof that he is actively focused about not coming to terms with reality and refusing to work on hisself. Possibly because he scared shitless that he might feel a guilt from his conscience if he does. Easier to just pay your problems away and hope the atheist are right.
What horrible things?
Also, he has SO many Asperger’s traits I knew he had it even before he said it. While Asperger’s is not an official diagnosis anymore - it’s still a part of the autism spectrum, on the high functioning side.
No, it’s not on the autism spectrum because it isn’t a thing. It isn’t real.
And unless you have some medical expertise in the area, you deciding he has autism based on traits you think autistic people have is just bigoted against people with autism. Because that is not in any way in your wheelhouse.
Do you also decide on whether or not someone is gay based on ‘gay traits?’
It’s not real???
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndromeI think I’m on the autistic spectrum tho not officially diagnosed.
Do you also decide on whether or not someone is gay based on ‘gay traits?’
Actually yes. If you feel attracted to same sex people - I think it’s fairly safe to assume you are gay or bisexual.No. Not real. It is no longer a diagnosis. That means it is not real. Your link even says it “formerly described” a disorder. Do you know what “formerly” means?
And your self-diagnosis is also meaningless. Even psychiatrists do not self-diagnose.
You are absolutely wrong it’s 100% real it just got merged into the ASD (Autism spectrum disorder). Please do research.
that is not what that means and the word “formerly” has nothing to do with it and you’re kinda being an asshole
Well, yeah. It’s often real easy to tell.
Is it now? Is it often “real easy to tell” if someone is gay too? How about Jewish?
It doesn’t work like that. Autism has physical attributes
Yes, often.
Oh, I’m sorry, you asked what horrible things. Let’s start with this-
I don’t even know what this is about ngl.
If you read it, it’s about Elon saying that it is true that Jews oppress white people. (Jews are white, FYI.)
I know Jewish people are white, lmao. I actually don’t know any instances of this being the case, I would need more context. Maybe is he just wrong or is wrongly extrapolating something to all Jewish people, but ngl, I was expecting something worse when you said he does horrible stuff. Also, fun fact, there is not a single person who is perfect and I never said Elon is. But I do think (like actually believe) he’s more good than bad. And I often feel like a lot of people think he’s more bad than good for some reason.
He’s not autistic, he was just raised by cruel people to be cruel.
I absolutely believe he is on the spectrum, without a doubt. I also don’t get what you mean by him being cruel? Like how?? I’m like (no joke) honestly baffled.
I don’t think we need to tarnish autistic people with whatever the fuck is going on in Elon’s oddly shaped head.
Autism is a spectrum. And you quite obviously don’t understand Elon nor his long term goals and motivations. You proved my point. I’m actually really curious why a lot of people can not see what Elon wants and what his deal is.
He’s a thin-skinned, narcissistic shyster who’s only goal for humanity is to line his pockets.
What is there to understand?
Do you think someone who is only chasing money would buy Twitter? I think not.
Wait? Do you like actually believe he doesn’t care about humanity and getting to mars and lowering the chances of human extinction and advancing technology to make our lives better and finding out the secrets of the universe and he’s just doing this for money? Do you really think he is motivated by MONEY? Cmon, bruh.
I think you REALLY REALLY do not understand what his deal is. Like, I have a feeling you can’t even imagine what he’s thinking about.
The richest man in the world? Motivated by money? Perish the thought!
Do you think getting it’s possible getting rich is not his ultimate goal, but a secondary one?
I think we’re done here.
“Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.”
― George Bernard Shaw
If you feel dirty, sorry. I do, however genuinely believe you and a lot of other people do not fully understand Elon and his motivations and thought process (if at all).
Autism is a spectrum, sociopathy isn’t.
What does this have to do with sociopathy? And yes, I believe just about every mental disorder is a spectrum. (Mostly talking about the spectrum of severity here)
Hahaha somebody doesn’t have any friends…
No way these guys are complaining about free crack. Lightweights I tell ya
Cocaine. Crack is for the poors. We get the top shelf shit here.
Irrelevant comment, but I wish that psychedelics were not classified by people as drugs. There is little in common in impact to your health and to your “high” between traditional drugs like cocaine and opioids and psychedelics.
I agree, and I know you didn’t say otherwise, but musk has reportedly been doing coke as well
If all the major CEOs of companies used psychedelics, the world would probably be better.
I really doubt that, they already don’t see their workforce as people, imagine the hellscape they’d create with even more unhinged visions.
You obviously don’t know how psychedelics work. I think this would actually make them realize their workforce is people, people like them.
The hope would be they’d realize they are people
Except for LSD, LSD can create crystals in your brain and make you trip for weeks. The rest of them, yeah, I agree with you.
LSD does not form crystals in your brain or anywhere else in your body. That’s some nonsense they made up to scare kids in the 60’s.
My partner knows someone it happened to. The guy ended up in the hospital for weeks because he was constantly tripping. I also tried to google it, and I found several reddit threads of people complaining about trips that weren’t ending like they’re supposed to.
“My mate Paul…”
The guy ended up in the hospital for weeks because he was constantly tripping.
More than likely they were dosed with something other than lsd, or they had a psychotic episode brought on by LSD. There are designer drugs out there that people sell as LSD, that have a much longer active time.
LSD does hang around in the brain longer than one would initially believe based on dosage, but it’s recently been proven that the lysergic acid gets temporarily trapped in serotonin receptors.
Whatever happened to the person your partner knows, it was not LSD forming crystals in their brain. That’s not a thing.
I don’t know what happened to him. I just know it happened. Maybe it’s not crystals forming in the brain, but that does happen, which was the point of my comment.
its not possible. what is possible is getting hallucinogen perception persistance disorder, what i have from abusing far too much lsd in my early 20s.
This can’t possibly be a real person.
This sentence is so poorly constructed and contradictory that it seems like it was written by a bottom of the barrel LLM.
Nope, I’m a real person.
I just know it happened. Maybe it’s not crystals forming in the brain, but that does happen, which was the point of my comment.
For something that totally happens, Google is completely unaware of it. Why can’t you just accept you’re wrong? Sounds like you confused what you heard.
LSD is one of the most potent, mood-changing chemicals. It is manufactured from lysergic acid, which is found in the ergot fungus that grows on rye and other grains. It is produced in crystal form in illegal laboratories, mainly in the United States. These crystals are converted to a liquid for distribution.
Created as a crystal, not crystals in the brain, seems like the most likely explanation.
The point was lost when you started repeating someone else’s made up bullshit about LSD, repeatedly, like it was factual.
Be open to change rather than closed minded and too arrogant to just admit you were wrong.
I did say maybe it wasn’t crystals, but a guy did spend a bunch of time in the hospital, that happened. And it’s not a random person, it’s my partner who told me this, not some random person. I did concede that it may not be crystals, literally said that. But he did spend a bunch of time in the hospital, that is a fact. Don’t know why people would keep telling me I’m wrong about someone spending time in the hospital.
It probably just triggered their schizophrenia or other mental disorders.
It’s not forming crystals in your brain…
Some people with a relatively unstable psychology and/or who don’t follow the “set and setting,” could experience a bad trip which can trigger an episode of predisposed psychosis. More often than not, this can easily be prevented by having a competent sitter guiding you and not going full out with a heroic (max-effect) dose your first time.
Think of it like learning to drive, you wouldn’t hop into a sports car solo, and expect not to have a good chance of screwing something up
LOOOOL
Should be mirrored to work best on Lemmy but this is easily the best reaction image for dumb comments I ever saw.
Well now I don’t know if you’re just a very helpful person or making fun of me, this is confusing.
Both.
Oh no, if there’s one thing I hate it’s value for money!
Why wouldn’t they be drugs? The word drug in itself is not negative. Seems to me they are very obviously drugs.
They mean, they shouldn’t be scheduled. Regulated, like tobacco and alcohol, but not scheduled.
Caffeine, chocolate, heck aspirine, acetamenaphine, and countless other drugs aren’t even regulated. But it’s clear what they’re trying to say: many scheduld drugs shouldn’t be illegal to produce or use.
There are absolutely impacts on your health though. Stuff changes your personality and sometimes, often, not for the best
I know a lot of former friends with brain rot from our crazy days
I did not say that they are safe, especially if taken regularly, but they are quite different. And there is evidence that psychedelics do change people for the better too and are being investigated for things like depression treatment.
i have hallucinogen perception persistance disorder, basically means im permanantly tripping from abusing lsd in my early 20s. shit can be dangerous, punching holes in my brain aye
Did not know that was a thing, did some reading on it. How distracting is it for you? Do you have “bad” or “good” micro trips?
its very mild trippy visuals, usually when i look at the blue sky or a white wall. it has inconvenient moments like while driving but overall its no big deal. definately no bad mircrotrips. just a constant reminder not to abuse drugs
I mean, they not only change things in your body and meet the definition of a drug. But make far more of a change in your body than say Tylenol, ibuprofen, or nicotine. They impare your judgment more than weed or alcohol. Maybe less long term effects than alcohol, as long as you don’t kill someone in the process since you perception of reality is impared. It makes perfect sense that it is considered a drug. Now, whether they want to legalize it with stipulations to keep people around you safe (i.e., regulate the drug) is a different discussion.
I think it’s person to person and dose dependent. I can’t walk after even delta 8. Unless I take enough acid to become one with the world, I’m fine. I enjoy life a little more at most.
I don’t give a shit about regulation, but being able to buy some of these chemicals in the open would be so much safer.
LOL WUT? A drug is everything that changes your psyche in any way in my book. Heroin, Alcohol, LSD, Weed, Paracetamol, Caffeine, Cocaine. It’s ALL drugs!
