• M0oP0o@mander.xyz
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    6 days ago

    You know I am starting to think maybe this modern Islamic law is just not very good.

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      6 days ago

      That’s the beauty of religion - if our gods and prophets did not materialize to contradict what we are saying in their name, that means they approve.

    • ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net
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      7 days ago

      I’m pretty sure Mohammad, Jesus, Buddha, and all the other gods would be concerned if they saw my porn history.

  • Railison@aussie.zone
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    7 days ago

    Something something sneaking into other people’s houses is haram therefore VPN is haram?

  • ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    someone should point out to them that a vpn is the technological equivalent of the burqa.

    either ban both, or allow both.

  • bender223@lemmy.today
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    7 days ago

    Anything is against religious law if you try hard enough.

    Actually, you don’t have to try that hard 🤷‍♂️

  • مهما طال الليل@lemm.ee
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    No it isn’t. The right to privacy is protected in Shariah law. Either something nefarious is at play here, or the religious body was misled on what VPN is.

    Sources for those not familiar with Shariah law, I actually studied it and was tested on it:

    https://www.al-islam.org/islam-and-rights-privacy-territory-abbass-khajeh-piri/realm-privacy-islam

    and this is from a Pakistani university:

    http://www.sbbu.edu.pk/actaislamica/vol 05 issue 01/Right to Privacy A Comparative Perspective in Law & Shariah.pdf

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      6 days ago

      It’s the government’s pet religious authority. They will produce any opinion that the government wants. Is there a name for these kind of scholars in Islamic history?

  • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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    The Council of Islamic Ideology said the technology was being used in Pakistan to access content prohibited according to Islamic principles or forbidden by law, including “[…]websites that spread anarchy […].”

    So they admit it’s not (only) about morals, but also (or mostly) about their position of power not being threatened.

    BTW: By blocking access to the internet, they stop people from following the order in the Quoran which states that people should educate themselves.

    • jaybone@lemmy.world
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      It’s almost as if they would tailor their religious doctrine to suit their own needs. Who could have imagined such a thing could happen.

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      they stop people from following the order in the Quoran which states that people should educate themselves.

      That’s the beauty of the major world religions. When you have power in your hands you can pick and choose what you want to honor and make it public policy, and there’s nothing the plebs can do about it.

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        7 days ago

        Yeah, it fits perfectly with the other thing they don’t want their people to know about (anarchy).

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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      8 days ago

      Which is super fucking ironic:

      David Kahn notes in The Codebreakers that modern cryptology originated among the Arabs, the first people to systematically document cryptanalytic methods.[15] Al-Khalil (717–786) wrote the Book of Cryptographic Messages, which contains the first use of permutations and combinations to list all possible Arabic words with and without vowels.[16]

      The invention of the frequency analysis technique for breaking monoalphabetic substitution ciphers, by Al-Kindi, an Arab mathematician,[17][18] sometime around AD 800, proved to be the single most significant cryptanalytic advance until World War II. Al-Kindi wrote a book on cryptography entitled Risalah fi Istikhraj al-Mu’amma (Manuscript for the Deciphering Cryptographic Messages), in which he described the first cryptanalytic techniques, including some for polyalphabetic ciphers, cipher classification, Arabic phonetics and syntax, and most importantly, gave the first descriptions on frequency analysis.[19] He also covered methods of encipherments, cryptanalysis of certain encipherments, and statistical analysis of letters and letter combinations in Arabic.[20][21] An important contribution of Ibn Adlan (1187–1268) was on sample size for use of frequency analysis.[16]

      Ahmad al-Qalqashandi (AD 1355–1418) wrote the Subh al-a 'sha, a 14-volume encyclopedia which included a section on cryptology. This information was attributed to Ibn al-Durayhim who lived from AD 1312 to 1361, but whose writings on cryptography have been lost. The list of ciphers in this work included both substitution and transposition, and for the first time, a polyalphabetic cipher[23] with multiple substitutions for each plaintext letter (later called homophonic substitution). Also traced to Ibn al-Durayhim is an exposition on and a worked example of cryptanalysis, including the use of tables of letter frequencies and sets of letters which cannot occur together in one word.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_cryptography#Medieval_cryptography

      But then Pakistanis aren’t Arabs…

  • just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    7 days ago

    For context: this “religious body” is governmental.

    In pakistan, military has gotten so powerful that they literally kidnap and torture you for being critical of them. And if you live outside pakistan they kidnap and torture your family members, demanding you to remove your posts.

    And recently pakistani people have started to become more and more anti-military. So they are using VPNs to hide their identity to protect themselves.

    This “religious body” is making it seem like this is to stop porn but in reality its about stopping people from being critical of military rule.

    • ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net
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      7 days ago

      I wonder if me, and American, looking at Pakistan is like how Europeans look at America… Government and police are crazy. But the food, culture, and people are probably nice.

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    8 days ago

    “It is not enough that Allah knows everything you do. We must also know.”

    “That sounds like blasphemy to me.”

    “Uh…”