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    If she did that I’d volunteer for her USSS detail. Can we be the Democrats the Republicans say we are?

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        It’s a pretty simple job though right? Just identify a shooter that’s like a 100 meters away and patiently wait for them to finish shooting before you jump on the President.

        But seriously, the president that actually delivers on the next new deal might get term limits removed. It was popular the first time for a reason.

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    this is just an onion headline the onion didn’t do because they would feel like they were glazing Harris without merit

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      His point is just to find a way to scare his voters by calling her a communist. It’s the most pathetic attack ever.

      Trump said of Harris: “She cosponsored legislation to abolish very popular private health insurance, which 150 [million] Americans rely on, dumping everyone onto inferior socialist government run health care systems with rationing and deadly wait times, while massively raising your taxes. She wants to take away your private health care.”

      “It’s the best health care in the world,” he continued, adding: “You’re all going to be thrown into a communist system … You’re going to be thrown into a system where everybody gets health care.”

      This bullshit about rationing and deadly wait times can only work on the most ignorant people who don’t realize healthcare is better and more affordable in many other countries.

      There may be a bit of “she won’t hurt the right people” in there too.

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        And yet people will fall for it. I swear they are beyond help. I listened to some of the boring travesty that is his latest press conference and - besides his notably low energy - it seems the lies are just getting bigger and more absurd. It boggles the mind that a huge chunk of the American people will listen to that drivel and nod and mutter “yeah sounds right”.

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          All this just reinforces how much of a cult MAGA is. He could say some outrageous shit like he was going to sacrifice his followers first born when he gets in office and I swear 95% of them would be like “oh cool”.

          The whole thing is wild. I grew up in a Christian family… which republicans claim to be. If I did a tenth of what this dickhead does I’d get disowned so fast. His whole base thinks his shit don’t stink.

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            It’s more than just being about “stupid” people though. After all, who benefits from deliberately under-funding and attacking the integrity of educational institutions?

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        His point is just to find a way to scare his voters by calling her a communist. It’s the most pathetic attack ever.

        Ironically Taiwan has universal health care and Communist China has employer based health care.

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          Yeah, I wait for weeks for a normal check-in with my doctor as it is now. I can’t ever go to them when I’m actually sick, cause by the time I get an appointment, it’s like 1-2 weeks out. I’m no longer sick. I have to end up in minor emergency clinics all the time for just basic shit.

          I love my doctor and use her any and every time I can, but it’s only for pre-planned checkups. God forbid I have to wait the same amount of time as now, and it BE FREE.

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          Depends, I have a Canadian friend who got same day brain surgery, because it actually was an emergency. Most medical problems can stand a wait.

          That being said, yeah waiting sucks. And yeah, the US has months long waiting periods too.

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          We already have wait times in the US too. That’s a funding and organizational problem, not a universal care problem.

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            Veteran here. The best healthcare I’ve gotten is consistently the appointments I have at the VA. Y’know… socialized healthcare. The VA has a reputation for being hot garbage - to my understanding they earned the hell out of that reputation, but made pretty massive improvements relatively recently. I only separated a few years ago, so I never say the earlier version.

            …the infrastructure is kinda shit, and riding on those elevators is probably more dangerous than anything I ever did on active duty, but the actual health care? Zero complaints.

            They do have wait times, but those are comparable to everywhere else.

            We always talk about socialized healthcare like it’s some unicorn that only exists in other countries, but we’re already doing it… just, for some reason we’re only doing it for dipshits like me who wandered into the correct star-spangled employer to trade our lumbar vertebrae for a GI Bill.

            Between that and the US Public Health Service (who might actually be unicorns… heard of them, but never actually seen one) we’ve got the framework for it. I wish we’d just add subdivisions to the USPHS. We already have the VA (which is curiously not affiliated with them… that surprises me), medicare, tricare, Indian Health Service… Start adding bite-sized categories according to need, and offer VA style coverage. Crime Victims Health Service… Students Health Service… Rent-Food-And-Utilities-Eats-60%±Of-Your-Income Health Service. Just keep expanding the mission and staffing accordingly. Switch VA hospitals to just ‘Federal Hospitals’ that offer VA services… and medicare… and students… etc. Eventually we’ll still be bashing heads about Universal Healthcare when… hey wait a minute! We fuckin have it already! Then just dissolve the stupid labels so you just check in as -a- patient instead of a VA patient. Or not. …probably not, tbh, the govt fucking loves stupid labels.

            …I don’t actually know why I typed all that out. That was way outside the scope of the comment I’m replying to. Um… I hope you enjoyed my almost-certianly-unrealistic-for-a-thousand-reasons-pipe-dream.

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              There’s only one reason why this is a pipe dream: there’s no political will to do it.

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          It’s also true of healthcare in the US. When my primary care provider left the practice and I had to reschedule with someone else, they weren’t able to get me in with someone new for another 8 months. And no one there is taking new patients. It’s also a months-long wait if you need to see any sort of specialist.

          Not to mention I pay a lot of money for a health insurance plan that won’t even cover one of the meds I was recently prescribed because they disagreed with my provider’s prior authorization. Surprise, I have to see a specialist. So, we’ll see how it works out in 5 more months when my appointment is. At least I have an HMO plan, so I don’t need a separate appointment for a referral first before insurance covers it.

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          It’s true that there can be long waits. But public healthcare in Canada and in the UK is getting worse for the same reason: Conservatives refusing to fund it because they want to drive everyone into private, for-profit healthcare. It’s the same reason Conservatives try to break public education and other public services: they serve only the rich who will profit from privatization while everyone else suffers.

          Conservatives run almost all Canadian provinces, which is the level at which healthcare is run. The Conservatives who are about to take over federally have explicitly stated their goal of making Canadian healthcare more like the USA’s. They undermine it for ideological reasons and for their own gain.

          A properly funded public healthcare system remains the best system for ordinary people.

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            I absolutely agree.

            I despise conservatives for trying to move us to the US model, especially as they’re trying to reward themselves, their buddies and anyone who has funded them. Bribery at its finest.

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    His message is for those who would rather suffer than have “those” people get help.

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        I have a cousin who I wouldn’t say is a 1%er, but maybe a 5%er. Very well off. You know why she’s against universal health care?

        Because “they” (poor people) would be able to see “her” doctor. And “she pays for a doctor that is good enough where he doesn’t have to work for ‘those’ people”. And she shouldn’t have to wait extra time for an appointment, dammit! Do you know who she is?!?!?!?!?

        Yeah, she’s one of them. Needless to say, we don’t talk much. I just wanted to say that there are plenty of people who are against universal healthcare because they think that somehow a kid going to see a doctor for the first time will somehow inconvenience them.

        Some people don’t pull the ladder up behind them. They kick it down, then wave bye-bye to you while watching you fall.

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      She does, she has discussed a number of methods of doing so, from expanding medicaid to all Americans, to doing a few other methods of basically using the government as payee, and negotiator, for insurance coverage that will be applied to every tax payer.

      Will she really do anything? Yet to be seen.

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        Remember too that the President doesn’t write the laws, and pretty much every solution for a single payer healthcare solution involves legislation.

        Blaming or crediting a President for something that only Congress can do is a long American tradition, and an exceptionally stupid one we need to get over.

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          Oh, by doing something, I don’t mean I think she would just make this law. I mean seeing her doing all she can, within her power, to accomplish this goal. Many have promised such reforms, then did little, to nothing, with the position, to accomplish that task.

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      It’s not just that. It’s also the “I don’t want my tax dollars paying for some other person’s health care” crowd.

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        I don’t want my taxes to pay for someone else’s healthcare. I want my post tax dollars to pay for wealthy CEOs’ yachts, and my tax dollars to pay for some other person’s healthcare but at ridiculous rates.

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        yeah… bombing kids in hospitals in Gaza and corporate tax breaks are aok… but god forbid a poor person gets affordable treatment for his cancer ?? communists !!!

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        Particularly those people, you know? The ones I can’t mention directly so I have plausible deniablity, but we all actually know who I’m talking about and it’s not even a dogwhistle anymore.

        I wouldn’t want those people to receive qualitative care. I’d rather pay for some other person’s new yacht than for these people’s bare necessities.

        (Sarcasm)

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        Yeah my dumbass neighbor used to argue that he shouldn’t have to pay for women’s feminine care when he pays for his medical insurance. And I’m like, “Are you fucking kidding me? Do you have any idea how many male-centric diseases are covered by insurance?” Fucking stupid self-centered dipshits. And it was dumb because in every other way this guy was pretty intelligent.

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      Right, definitely one of those things I don’t understand. For most of those people, universal healthcare can only be better than what they currently have. Haven’t they seen the mess they’re in?

      I do have better health insurance than most, so there is every chance it will be worse for me. That is so worth it! At least it would be cheaper and hopefully less paperwork