My shoes… My shoes…
Maybe it was an official act of Biden, then it’s not a crime. Nothing to see here, just as wanted by SCOTUS.
Biden should pardon the shooter 😈
CBS is suggesting that the shooter is dead
Secret Service doesn’t play. I wouldn’t be surprised in the least.
Too bad one of them didn’t pull their service weapon and finish the job. They’d be a patriot.
Clearly they don’t play hard enough considering they missed the guy with a rifle on the roof. That was till he decided to shoot.
There’s no reason to believe he was up there for a long time. He may have fired the minute he got to the roof. Just because you’re good doesn’t mean you win.
I mean yeah, however people pointed at the guy on the roof before it happened, so to me law enforcement should have got wind of what was happening before he fired, not only that but the snipers that were with the USSS clearly didn’t spot the guy moving around on a nearby roof until it was too late
The supreme Court has found any act Biden does is unofficial
Antifa and the Biden crime family conspiring again.
Except he can’t be part of a crime family. If the president does it, it’s not illegal.
hey it’s not our guys that declared that anything a president does is automatically legal, even something like this. you folks fought for and pushed that ruling through. you’d have to be a special kind of dumb to get upset that you’re getting shot at when you’ve expressly legalized the act of shooting at people. great “law and order” move guys, you legalized all the so-called “biden crime family” actions to make sure your guy can do whatever he wants when he becomes king. i guess they’re just the normal biden family now thanks to y’all.
Lmao. Fuckin get em Joe! 🤣
You can’t be a crime family if all of your actions are automatically legal, SCOTUS made sure of that
I mean, it’s legal if it’s an official act.
Antifa shooting a fascist is very on brand.
Funny and apropos, but too soon
I wish I could upvote this twice lol
Turns out, when you ask for violence, you get violence.
Happy to see it.
I’m not. Now he’s a martyr and he was barely hurt.
Martyrs are dead by definition
As I said to someone else- that is the literal definition of a martyr, not the political concept of a martyr. The latter is what matters. There are plenty of examples of political martyrs who survived and did well because of it. The most prominent right now is the House Majority Leader, Steve Scalise, who survived the mass shooter at the congressional baseball game a few years ago and has been riding that sympathy wave ever since.
Tbh I’m surprised this hasn’t happened sooner to him or the Supreme Court. Not that I endorse violence, I’m just kind of surprised considering all the violence the right wing has perpetrated up to now. It’s really a last resort for everyone else.
Nothing has ever been accomplished in this country without violence as a threat behind it. Violence is the only resort. It’s the only thing that ever gets any changes made.
Glad your happy… You going to be happy when his base rallies now, too?
I love how left leaning all of lemmy is… But the comments encouraging the violence or disappointment in the fact the shooter “missed”, seems off.
Unfortunately for the civilized world, fascism often only dies at the end of a gun.
Glad
youryou’re happy…ftfy.
Tell me any time in history where fascism has just said “You know what? You’re right. The votes say it all, we’re just gonna knock it off now…”
Violence has always been the thing that gets response. Without it, your begging and pleading is toothless. You’ll continue to get stomped on, you’ll continue to have your rights stripped away. You’ll continue to roll backwards in history until someone else says “You know what, this has gone too far…” and…uses violence to put an end to it.
You know why the pen is mightier than the sword? Because the pen can rally millions of swords in its place.
All emotions, big on rhetoric, not so good on repurcussions & consequences for actions.
However. I don’t see much really coming from this, just a galvanized Trump base. Maybe some switcjes in the middle. And I wouldn’t be shocked if there’s a false flag, “Oooo, LOOK, now we’ve found a conservative that wants to kill Biden! Both sides!”
…except nobody’s dumb enough to assassinate a senile lame duck. And everybody knows, nobody wants Kamala as POTUS. 🙄
As much as you feel he might deserve it, this will have worse results for defeating him.
You shouldn’t be. This is just going to rile his base up even more.
Right, like how they all rose up during the BLM riots. Trump supporters won’t do anything. If they do a lot of people will defend themselves from them.
Shit hit the fan big time.
This guy is a hero for trying. We need more people like him, not be scared. We need to celebrate people like this so that we finally get inspired to do what we have been lacking for decades: having a pair of balls to play the same game republicans play
Why were people Scared? Guns are SAFE! Guns are SO SAFE that they’re trying to FORCE them into Schools! It would be INCREDIBLY FUCKED UP if the same people who RAN AWAY from the Guns want to FORCE OUR KIDS into that Situation EVERY DAY!
Honestly, folks didn’t look that scared. I’d have been diving the fuck off those bleachers, but not these magas.
There were two dudes that didn’t even know what was happening. Like one guy looked like he was the offensive head coach waiting for the referee/official to announce the reason for the flag on the play and the other guy was wondering if Slash from Guns N Roses was coming out.
It’s funny I was replaying the vid on slowmo and noticed that guy on the right, but not the guy on the left. That’s kinda weird.
Oh look it’s JFK Jr.
Fake. Grabs ear, applies blood, doubles down on maga nonsense.
Or… real and he drops out.
Glad to see the anti-Trump crowd is getting balls.
Fake. Grabs ear, applies blood, doubles down on maga nonsense.
This is my first reaction. Let’s see if somehow the shooter “eludes” them.
Shooter was killed apparently. I posted a pic up there ^
Yeah I apparently sucked in my search or didn’t give the news time to make it out there.
I think it was just it wasn’t out yet. We should be hesitant before assuming anything is fake at this point info will be coming out for the next few days.
Right. Then he uses it to accuses any one of being involved. Right to jail.
Or it’s real 🤷♂️ but my money, at this point, is on a scam.
He’s not dropping out, this grift is his income of money and attention both until the day he dies. Plus he can’t drop out because Putin will release whatever blackmail he has on him
They have something on him for sure.
I’d rather him be voted to obscurity and irrelevance than become a martyr.
He seems too excited considering he’s usually a coward. Maybe it’s the false flag operation that far right personalities keep saying about mass shootings?
Yeah, he’s a living martyr now. Which is highly problematic because it doesn’t have any of the numerous upsides of him having actually been killed.
The roll was a critical failure.
Any info on the assailant?
This looks so fucking fake I have to say. I’ve watched combat videos from Ukraine and Israel since the beginning and this whole thing just seemed so odd. I wouldn’t be the list be surprised if a Trump burst a ketchup packet (or movie equivalent) by his ear. This timing is so…so convenient.
Friendly reminder: all these secret service guys assigned to Trump are, themselves, Trumpers.
Can’t say that’s necessarily true (that last bit). They are sworn in to duty to protect current or past president’s with their life, regardless of personal belief.
My perspective is that the secret service guys are bound to life.
I know a couple current and former USSS agents, they’re hardcore trump supporters. That’s not to say they all are as I don’t know them all, but they are law enforcement after all.
I recalled hearing a couple things over the course of the Jan 6th impeachment hearings, which is the President has some say in who his personal detail is, and that there was some info pertaining to them being supportive of him personally. I’d have to review to be certain though.
if we get a video showing something changing on his face before he touches it or falls to the ground, I think that would rule out false flag, or at least they would have had to actually shoot something at him to do that.
This is the one possible scenario that could make things even worse. They can’t replace the head of the snake, but they can sure as fuck pump that the head was shot and injured. They did the same with Hitler.
History is repeating itself far to close for this to be comfortable.
That was my first thought too, but then it looks pretty realistic, and he’s a terrible actor…
I don’t think vote to obscurity can apply here. Trump will always have a platform because he is a living engagement machine and that drives the Internet mad. He wins he’s the top story, he loses he’s the top story, he gets convicted he’s the top story. The man is immortal in the worst way possible and the world is basically f*cked.
Damn. I wish you weren’t exactly right, but you are.
Nah, this is just want Trumpers want you to believe. He gets attention because he’s genuinely to foment a fascist overthrow of the government, not because he’s some media mastermind.
I miss the short years where we heard nothing from the piece of shit right after the 2020 election.
Trump will always have a platform because…
Yeah, but for how many more years? There’s absolutely no way he’d run again if he loses, so it’s really just a short ticking clock.
There’s no way he doesn’t win, even if he loses.
He is a martyr now. And alive. That assassin just killed the country
Nobody is changing their vote over this shit. Democrats are pretty entrenched in not Trump. They knew what was at stake this election as soon as Trump stepped back up.
Its more than just the election. Trump is not going to go away if he loses in November.
People that vote for trump after this were going to vote for him anyways
so it’s just an attendance issue that he won one and lost one, or fraud?
Trump lost the popular vote to Clinton by 2.9 million votes. He lost to Biden by 8.8 million votes. The last Republican president to win the popular vote was George W. Bush.
It’s a Republican’s best friend, the Electoral college. More people want progressive candidates, not regressive backwards criminals.
He was elected by the minority of the population, and with the help of a Senate that represents a minority of the population, appointed a third of the Supreme Court.
Minority rule is here.
More people voted for him in 2020 than in 2016
But far more voted for Biden than Clinton. Turnout was very high.
Some might have stayed home.
like vote by mail? Because the snowflakes that I know do exactly that after being so against it.
Those that were going to stay home because he’s a rapist with 34 felonies will still stay home. This means nothing unless it comes out that it was a planned stunt, then he loses whatever credibility he had. Wait, never mind, he has zero credibility so his cult won’t give two shits and will continue to do and think whatever fox “news” tells them to do.
Nah, those snowflakes were gonna vote
I don’t think this is going to energize anyone four months from now. Attention spans are too short.
This is my thought exactly. I have never felt such a somber feeling.
He’s god now. It’s over.
My thoughts exactly, the right will eat this up and use this the rest of the race. Anyone who was on the edge for voting for him probably just made up their minds. They’ll blame the left for this.
https://kansascitydefender.com/national/trump-shooting-antifa-conspiracies/
Right-Wing Accounts Launch Mark Violets Antifa Conspiracy in Light of Trump “Assassination Attempt”
In the short term, I am expecting right-wing nutjobs to do their own sort of retaliatory shootings, targeting whomever their personal info bubble blames as a group.
I hate to say it but that might be the best case scenario. At least in that case biden is in office when the violence starts
Further violence and a mild Civil War are not best case scenario. Queer people dying for your cause is not best case scenario.
Best case scenario (and what seems to be the alt theory on literally every social I have, and on some I don’t have), is that everyone believes this was a false flag (and/or there’s evidence it was a false flag). That fact that so many people IMMEDIATELY questioned the shooting is a really good sign. People just don’t trust him at all. Boy Who Cried Wolf etc
Best case scenario in terms of shit that might actually happen I should say
As with presidential immunity they shot their wad too early.
Yeah, gotta be ready for that.
Hero
https://x.com/thiefkingix/status/1812263018681827338?s=42
No visible wound.
Thoughts and prayers
I, too, will be doing nothing
😂
The people that down voted you obviously don’t get it.
You’re “own” isn’t an own at all. Prayers are important. Especially for the now deceased shooter, his family and the victims (including Trump). Lots of callousness in this thread.
Since when have prayers changed things? Oh, right, never.
If it’s so easy to get on a roof with a gun and get a number of shots off before the Trump‘s SS reacts, imagine how a military trained guy would do with a modern sniper rifle from, say, half a mile away…
Yeah this was a photo op
Shit. He missed. Better luck next time.
No rest for the wicked
Fascists should be afraid to show their faces in public, but this particular fascist needs to live long enough to spend time in prison.
He will never serve a single second in prison, and this just cemented his control over the country for the rest of his life.
Today truly is a national tragedy
Gotta correct for wind…
it’s not easy, the guy introduces his own ones.
There won’t be a next time.
I, for one, am now advocating for target practice as a requirement for high school graduation.
Could history please have the decency not to re-enact how Hitler survived dozens of assassination attempts?
Haha that was my second thought (my first one was shock that something like that can happen - it means dangerous times are coming for democracy)
This is exactly what I’m afraid of.
I’m afraid he is going to ride this into the White House or it ignites open political shootings. Not a good time.
I don’t see how it doesn’t encourage others with how close it was. People who had previously thought it impossible might now consider the chance.
let’s hope
Oh, he is definitely getting reelected. That is an absolute certainty at this point.
It will galvanize his base, who were already voting for him, to be sure. But I doubt this will swing many voters. Trump is still Trump, regardless of assassination attempt.
But I doubt this will swing many voters.
Then you are incredibly historically naive. He was already winning by every available metric. So, if nothing had changed at all there was already an extremely high likelihood of him being reelected. This only serves to further strengthen his chances.
I don’t think people really understand how stupid, brainwashed, and weak minded the average American truly is. There are plenty of people who will vote for him because surviving an assassination attempt makes him look strong. Count on it.
You could make points without calling the other person naive. No need to make the internet a worse place.
As far as “every available metric” goes, you’re talking polls, and polls are garbage. Every poll had Clinton winning in late October 2016.
And we’re in an unprecedented portion of politics in American history, so bringing up historical measurements doesn’t convince me like you think it would.
No need to make the internet a worse place.
More Reddit-y here by the day…
We will see who did the proper analysis in 4 months time. I’m really hoping it won’t be me. Unfortunately, I am also certain that I am correct.
You’re confusing the average American with the republikkklown voters. That’s not even close to average. The average voter knows he’s a racist rapist with 34 felonies that caused a failed insurrection. They won’t forget. They will vote and your wanna be dictator will do what he’s best at… LOSING.
I know you want to stick me in that bubble to make yourself feel better. I hated Donald Trump long before 2016. I knew about his ties to Jeffrey Epstein before that name was even in the public lexicon. I’ve been following the downfall of the Amerikan Empire since as long as I have been politically aware. This is just the latest dominoe to fall.
He was already winning by every available metric.
I just looked for myself, and NPR/PBS survey has Biden ahead. Many other polls have it basically tied. A few have Trump in the lead by 2-3 points.
I wouldn’t personally call that winning by every available metric, although I would agree with you that it looks like Trump has a slight lead.
Were those national popular vote polls? If so, you have to factor in the electoral advantage Republicans have. If the national popular vote is tied, Republicans will win.
Individual polls are meaningless. I only care about the trends of the the aggregate polling. Five Thirty Eight has had Trump leading by an average of 2 points in aggregate polling basically from the beginning. There has never been a time where Biden was ahead during this election cycle. Therefore, using the available metrics it is clear that Donald Trump is on the path to returning to the White House.
there’s still time to stop this. hoping for a hero.
Fuck, things are likely going to start really escalating now.
His base is going to go into overdrive, for sure.
Yup, open season on Biden. And the MAGAs probably won’t miss.
They’re just as bad of shots, but yeah you’re probably right. Reality is stupid.
Don’t be silly. The MAGAs don’t want Biden to be replaced.
Magas operate on hate, not forethought.
Well, there’s a huge difference between assassinating Trump and assassinating Biden: If Trump dies the GOP has no equivalent. Trump is the party platform. It’s all they stand for at this point. Their entire funding apparatus is dependent on Trump!
If Biden is assassinated Democrats will be sad but there’s like 500 other people that could replace him and everything would continue on, business as usual.
Except maybe the new nominee will be capable of completing a sentence. 🤷♂️
Hopefully the assailants at the next maga rally have better aim or use higher caliber weaponry.