I absolutely do not agree with Vance, but he did get Walz on that abortion bill clarification. Walz couldn’t clarify because it’s a very specific detail, but I don’t think the average voter is going to see it that way. You can claim that it was unfair for Vance to do so, but for a political debate it was a solid jab. I really think productive rights voters are gonna lead this election.
I fear nutters might run away with this out of context.
Dick Cheney: The Optimist. I get his point but following it with: …they’re some of the most optimistic people, just made me lol.
Yeah, it was a very respectable debate, which is a nice change of pace. It gives me hope of eventual political “normalization” or Vance is very good at being an absolute snake.
You’re absolutely right. He pulled off quite the balancing act though, just in case.
I think escaping the shadow of Trump might be tricky though, but 4+ years is a long time.
Honestly, that was a solid debate from both candidates. They both did a good job dancing around direct answers. They both could throw and take jabs. The humbleness and reliability of both candidates were a breath of fresh air. I think they both did a good job trying to sway anyone on the fence, and overall, I think this benefits the Republican Party most. Vance is just a much more personable person than Trump. Democrats are really going to need to turn up if they want to win this election. I really think productive right-specific voters are going to show up from both sides and determine it.
Here’s to hoping personal autonomy wins out. Govement rules over ones personal body is a slippery slope. Allowing one to choose, that’s freedom.
A John Stewart VP pick could be cool though. I could see him siting on the Senate floor calling out people BS all day.
No good will come of this “Weekend at Bernie’s” farce of an election.
Hard disagree.
Anybody who has actually followed what Trump has does / is doing vs what Biden has does / is doing knows there’s a clear distinction between the two. One is clearly a worse choice. It reads like you’re just intoxicated by the smelling of your own farts.
A better approach I think is voting more progressive thinkers into congress and other places of power and authority.
It feels like a long con. The years of eroding the educational budget have finally paid off. It’s going to be an upward battle to bring back logical thinking and media literacy.
Tyrannical governments rise from apathy. The final governmental check is its people.
How is this going to “shift votes”? How exactly? From who? Who’s really on the fence between the “Old man” and the convicted felon suspected to be a pedophile attempting to become king? No sane person is shifting vote over this and the insane are already vehemently R.
Probably not every single solitary person, but the majority. I think politics have been too divisive to the point where the middle is too slim to make a difference. These aren’t new political candidates. Nothing has changed.
From the NYTs - what a bunch of lame-ass ragebait.
You’re not wrong. Here’s hoping the Dems show up in droves as well
There’s no wide middle, who is actually still undecisive in this election? Actual people, IRL I want to meet them. Not some twitter jockeys or media talking heads, not some podcast. Actual voters.
Do you actually know those people IRL? People on the fence? I haven’t talked to anyone who hasn’t already had their vote decided. The political climate has been the most divisive in my lifetime, to the point where the people I’ve spoken with IRL are either dug in with Trump or dug in against Trump. This scene doesn’t change Trumps degressive views or awful policies. It doesn’t change Trump from being a Felon or suspected pedophile.
If there are swing voters it’s likely a really small number. At the end of the day the Democrats are dug in on Not Trump, and they have the numbers. They showed up for the last election, and the divisive politics have kept it in their peripheral since. RvW was huge, 2025 has been getting traction. There ain’t many left that don’t have their political compass set.
Doubtful, these last few political years have been too divisive.
Let’s also take note here that your account reads like a smurf/bot account. I miss RES tagged so I could tag bad faith actors.
It doesn’t for Democrat voters. They’re only voting against Trump. This doesn’t change who DT is, his viewpoints, or his past actions. This doesn’t change him being a Felon and a suspected pedophile. All this is an attempt to incite more violence.
sympathy from swing voters
I would think that the number of actual swing voters is extremely low. The last few years of politics have been very divisive (probably an understatement), more so than anything in my lifetime. At this point, I haven’t heard anyone IRL not have their political compass already pointed. Democrats have been dug in against DT since he announced he was running again. Rs have been dug in for DT since he announced he was running again.
Yeah, I really think productive rights voters are going to turn out and likely be deciders.