Louisiana has become the first state to require that the Ten Commandments be displayed in every public school classroom under a bill signed into law by Republican Gov. Jeff Landry on Wednesday.
The GOP-drafted legislation mandates that a poster-sized display of the Ten Commandments in “large, easily readable font” be required in all public classrooms, from kindergarten to state-funded universities. Although the bill did not receive final approval from Landry, the time for gubernatorial action — to sign or veto the bill — has lapsed.
Opponents question the law’s constitutionality, warning that lawsuits are likely to follow. Proponents say the purpose of the measure is not solely religious, but that it has historical significance. In the law’s language, the Ten Commandments are described as “foundational documents of our state and national government.
Christo-fascist theocratic shithole of a country.
How is this not a first amendment constitutional violation? It very clearly establishes a state religion by enforcing Christian doctrine into state law. Fuck every religion, but in particular, fuck abrahamic religion and all of its followers.
It is, the point is to make it to the Supreme Court so they can set a precedent that its allowed.
If they actually believe in that whole originalism thing they claim (basically that the text of the constitution means what it would have meant at the time it was written, and shifts in the definition or words don’t change that meaning) they still can’t allow it. There’s basically no way to interpret the Constitution that would result in mandating a specific religious affirmation be in public facilities isn’t “promoting an establishment of religion”.
The best they could hope for without just ignoring the Constitution entirely and making something up (which all their conservatism.aside they generally haven’t done yet) would be arguing that this requires opening the door to any similar list of religious tenets by literally every faith on the planet.
They’re supposed to be the court defending the constitution, but yet here we are. I wish you weren’t right.
Sounds like a good way to destroy the 2nd amendment.
As a Canadian, I have the same question. Is this just the old "slam through an obviously unconstitutional law because it will take years and hundreds of thousands of dollars to get it undone and until then maybe we can keep pushing our clearly anti-American agenda? (note I’m using American to mean what they claim it to mean, like in the movies, not what it actually is, which is kinda… this.)
What a shithole state.
the Ten Commandments are described as “foundational documents of our state and national government.
Jefferson must be rolling in his grave so fast that he could power the whole east coast. Bunch of uneducated goons.
6 and 8 are the only ones that are laws, and those are just common sense shit, don’t murder or steal. The first 4 are telling you what god to worship and how, which are explicitly the opposite of what a government is built on.
Bunch of uneducated goons.
Oh, they know they’re lying, they just want to lie so much they bury the truth re-write the past (which is kinda ironic if you think about it, given that whole eight commandment). It’s kinda the same way the “Lost Cause of the Confederacy” is embedded into American mythology despite being a after-the-fact whitewashing of history.
No one challenged the law makers to prove that they were right. They are lying because they can get away with it - no one in any position of power asked or was asked which foundational document was forged by forefathers from Christian (or any religion) doctrine.
Thomas Jefferson would never roll over in his grave. He would have his slaves roll him.
Atonal screaming heard in distance
Glad I’m far enough down this rabbit hole to get the reference.
You know who else atonally screams into the void…?
The… products and services that support this lemmy thread?
I’d love for them to point to where it suggests that in either the federal or state constitutions.
I wouldn’t point to state constitutions there’s probably a few that do say that.
One now does…
Can’t wait to see the 8 tenets of the Satanic Temple right up there next to them
Please donate to The Satanic Temple if you care about this topic and are able.
TST is not a super great org unfortunately. They do stuff for great headlines but apparently little in the way of effective advocacy. I’ve also heard that there are pretty bad issues with misogyny among the upper echelons. While it’s extremely long at 2hrs, Dead Domain’s video on the subject goes into great detail.
It’s really unfortunate, I wanted to believe they were fighting the good fight but I don’t know if I can in good conscience anymore
Why do I care about what a video game youtuber thinks?
Do yourself a favor and don’t.
I don’t know how this has become a seemingly valid method of argument for an altogether too-large segment of the internet. Make some contrarian comment and then post a stupidly long video by some random that they seem to think is valid and useful evidence.
No one is going to watch this shit. Anyone who has two hours to waste on some random dude’s opinions interspersed with commercials needs to reexamine their life priorities.
I linked it because I recall it having a lot of cogent points and being relevant, and because I don’t remember off the top of my head the specific allegations, I didn’t want to dig through a two hour video I’ve already seen at the exact moment of writing because I only had so much time and research to dedicate to a Lemmy comment. It’s valid to be annoyed by a long video linked as an argument, but my comment was a “too long didn’t watch” version of it… that actually left out some details like the founder also being a fucking eugenicist.
I also use an adblocker, and the vid has some opinions obviously but was mostly going over evidence, recordings, and related allegations.
You don’t have to watch it if you don’t want to. I linked it as a secondary source. While primary sources are preferable and it might have been a good idea to do the legwork myself, I wanted something posted quick to maybe make people think twice on the “donate to TST” call to action in the initial comment.
If the entirety of the video is summarized by the three whole sentences of context you wrote in your initial comment, it sounds even less worth a watch than I initially thought.
From what I can find in actual sources, there’s two founders, and I’m guessing your claim on the eugenics is about Greaves, who certainly sounds like an asshole if not explicitly a eugenicist, but weirdly it didn’t take a two-hour anything to read about it.
The rest of it seems to stem from something a former spokesperson wrote in a Medium article and a bunch of other asshole stunts by Greaves, who yes totally seems like an asshole. None of this took more than ten minutes of searching and reading, maybe thirty if you read slowly.
I get that you’re not the only person in the world that does this, but if you actually care to make people think about something even once, like you claim to, maybe make the one thing you link to more accessible than a two-hour slog by some random YouTuber that I’m sure is super well-known to you and all their other followers but has no recognizable credibility outside of that tiny niche.
… it’s not really an opinion piece? It’s mostly a breakdown of the church’s dubious history and leadership. I’m sure they also do video game stuff, but that feels like it has no bearing on the actual facts presented.
Thank you! I’ll edit the original
Incoming Satanic Temple poster right beside it!
Oh, … good … since one of the commandments say you should not kill … then we can get rid of everyone’s guns then.
No, they reverse justified that fir Iraq War II. Cause y’know Gee Dubz was so jesusy.
No, it’s thou shall not commit murder, not kill. There is a difference. That sign in the thumbnail is between Cincinnati and Columbus Ohio. This has created a rivalry between the two MLS teams called thr HELL IS REAL derby. The other side of that billboard says HELL IS REAL as you come towards Cincinnati.
I’m pretty sure none of the people behind this keep the sabbath, either.
The story has been corrected to clarify that the time for gubernatorial action did not lapse. The governor signed the bill Wednesday.
I’ll believe in their god as soon as they start electing officials that follow those commandments.
I won’t
Don’t worry about me… It’ll never happen.
I’m so sick and tired Of these Christophascist Trying to force their pedophile religion on me and my kids.
“Fascists continue to fascist”
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Which 10 commandments?
Well, it’s 10, so it can’t be the Jewish version. I’m guessing the Protestant version.
The 10 that are left after Moses dropped the third tablet.
Under appreciated comment right there
the first tablet(s). We don’t know what the original tablets said. He came down, saw the shitfuckery that was going on, smashed them, and went back up to get two new ones made for the golden cow worshiping jews who had gotten bored while he was up there.
It’s a reference to a scene in a Mel Brooks movie. ;)
“I bring you these fifteen-” *smash* “Ten! Ten commandments!”
Yeah does the law specify which ones? Many christian sects have slightly different wording and ordering.
And even the KJV edits did not manage to paper over the fact that there are in fact 18 if you count Sky Daddy’s recitation/rant in Exodus after the whole golden calf incident.
- Ice cream is tasty, but don’t overdo it.
- Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
- Be nice.
- Like for real, stop being an asshole.
- Greed is for Ferengi, don’t overdo it.
- Dogs are great friends. Go pet one immediately.
- Be careful when petting a cat’s belly. It could be a trap.
- Be careful when your girl says ‘it’s fine’. It’s not. Buy chocolate.
- Eight commandments are enough, ten are a lot of effort
- But really, be nice.
The actual 10 commandments:
11 Obey what I command you today. I will drive out before you the Amorites, Canaanites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites. 12 Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land where you are going, or they will be a snare among you. 13 Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones and cut down their Asherah poles.[a] 14 Do not worship any other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.
15 “Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land; for when they prostitute themselves to their gods and sacrifice to them, they will invite you and you will eat their sacrifices. 16 And when you choose some of their daughters as wives for your sons and those daughters prostitute themselves to their gods, they will lead your sons to do the same.
17 “Do not make any idols.
18 “Celebrate the Festival of Unleavened Bread. For seven days eat bread made without yeast, as I commanded you. Do this at the appointed time in the month of Aviv, for in that month you came out of Egypt.
19 “The first offspring of every womb belongs to me, including all the firstborn males of your livestock, whether from herd or flock. 20 Redeem the firstborn donkey with a lamb, but if you do not redeem it, break its neck. Redeem all your firstborn sons.
“No one is to appear before me empty-handed.
21 “Six days you shall labor, but on the seventh day you shall rest; even during the plowing season and harvest you must rest.
22 “Celebrate the Festival of Weeks with the firstfruits of the wheat harvest, and the Festival of Ingathering at the turn of the year.[b] 23 Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Sovereign Lord, the God of Israel. 24 I will drive out nations before you and enlarge your territory, and no one will covet your land when you go up three times each year to appear before the Lord your God.
25 “Do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to me along with anything containing yeast, and do not let any of the sacrifice from the Passover Festival remain until morning.
26 “Bring the best of the firstfruits of your soil to the house of the Lord your God.
“Do not cook a young goat in its mother’s milk.”
They lost me at “obey”
It’s wild that this list of obvious control mechanisms to empower the clergy ends with
“But seriously, don’t cook a goat its mother’s milk. That’s just fucked up and cruel.”
I have to assume it was some weirdly specific ritual meal they were banning.
I mean who hasn’t been served a bad dish of incestuous goat soup?
title of your sex tape.
Fuck your fairy tales.
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