- The House passed a more than $60 billion bill that provides more military aid to Ukraine.
- It’s part of a larger foreign aid package that’s likely to pass the Senate and be signed into law.
- 112 Republicans voted it against — the most ever, and a majority of the GOP conference.
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Saturday’s vote marked the first time the House had approved billions of dollars in Ukraine aid since December 2022, when Democrats still controlled the chamber.
In the two years since Russia’s invasion, opposition to aiding Ukraine has grown from a fringe position to a majority view among House GOP lawmakers. Many argue the money should be spent domestically or that policy changes at the US-Mexico border should take precedence.
Here are the 112 House Republicans who voted against the bill.
Send them to russia I’m sure they’ll put them on the front line… traitors
So you’re fighting on the front lines in Ukraine? Why not advocate that the US go to war with Russia directly? You just want to prolong things out for a few months, and then a few more months… Aid package after aid package tied to Israel genocide and all kinds of concessions for Republicans, while pretending that it was always about trying to “help” Ukraine
Israel aid and Ukraine aid were two separate votes
GOP had previously tried to pass aid to Israel while simultaneously blocking Ukraine aid.
Ah, I think I misread something, got it
Our grandfathers 'prolonged thingss for 'dolfie for five years, after which he blew his brains out. So yeah
Barfing out the same dumb hot-take more than once doesn’t make it any less dumb.
He has to post. It’s his job. Easier to just post the same shit than to try to come up with something original.
The (R) is for Russian Asset.
Must have been a dilemma though, voting for Ukraine to fall or voting for dead Muslims.
Common misconception but no, actually, each portion got a separate vote. 112 legislators voted against aid to Ukraine, 58 voted against aid to Israel.
Oh that is a surprise. They usually bundle the shit out of these things.
In this instance they had to unbundle them because of the overlapping opposition to the different elements. Combined all of that opposition was enough to sink the whole thing, separated no one issue had enough opposition to fail.
The senate has to vote on it as a bundle or send it back to the house if I’m not mistaken, but the house got to vote on individual things. I hope I’m wrong, Ukraine needs us but also Fuck Israel.
Voting against Genocide money for Israel is very Based.The aid packages were separate votes, most did not vote against aid for Israel
Thank you for clarifying this I thought it was still bundles because all of the news was from the same day. I retract my previous comment.
Blatantly copying my previous comment.
Hey, Republicans, do y’all remember Red Dawn? Those two movies you made about The USSR and Russia being the ultimate evil enemy that was going to invade and must be stopped? You do? Good.
My real question is, why in the name of all that is Murican, ARE YOU ACTIVELY HELPING RUSSIA WITH THEIR ILLEGAL AND UNPROVOKED INVASION‽‽‽
Because money.
The GOP decision-makers see the Russian oligarchy and how freely they leech their wealth from the public and say “I want that.”
The MAGA followers see modern Russian society as a bastion of “western” (white) moral traditionalism holding out against progressive globalist degeneracy where none of this “woke” shit flies.
They have more in common with modern Russia than they do with modern America. They want the US to be more like Russia and many will be willing to spill American blood to get there.
I wish they would fully commit, and emigrate to Russia. Like that idiot family on YouTube.
Republicans are the kind of people who think Footloose is a warning against the dangers of freedom.
Because the Soviet Union was a communist dictatorship, which the GOP hated (the communist part of it, anyway), and modern Russia is kleptocratic oligarchy, which the GOP loves. Easy enough to tease out, really.
Even simpler:
Communist = lefties
Oligarchs & dictators = rich CEOs running the country.
Guess which ones the republicans have been supporting for decades.
Ever simplerer:
$$$$$$$
Yes, they are clearly bought and paid for.
Is this supposed to be some kind of public shaming? It’s not as if there weren’t any reasons not to issue a blank check to Ukraine.
A comprehensible way to view this war is: One corrupt shit-hole country, formerly part of the Soviet Unions has attacked another corrupt shit-hole country, formerly part of the Soviet Union.
I am German and I am happy with giving the Ukraine plenty of funds and other means in order for enabling them to stop Russia expending in my general direction. I don’t really see that much benefit for the US so. But thanks, every US dollar spent is about 1€ less we have to spend. Go for it.
Sounds very much like your opnion is formed based on general ignorance on the subject, sprinkled with a good dosage of egotism
The US has the same benefits as Germany. It is bad for an aggressive adversarial state to invade their way through Europe.
The US gives them funding by selling them equipment the US was done with. The country gets to collect shitloads of data on using the weapons in a proxy war they don’t have to commit to.
It’s also a huge benefit to our economy and (eventually) military readiness. We’re giving mostly older but still useful weapons, and most of the money goes to US defense companies to replenish our supplies with the latest and greatest.
Yeah, we’ve been running way too much debt and need to get a handle on it but this is a good use of debt and the problem is much bigger than this one “minor” part
Making it very clear to the world you can’t just march into a neighboring sovereign country and take it over is very important for global security. That matters to all of us. We as a society should not accept that.
Absolutely. YOU give them YOUR money. The
spicepetro dollars must flow.
Shut up.
Why would I? Did I offend you? I am sorry you feel that way 🤣
You’re just an insufferable cad who should always keep your trap closed.
At the very least, they should help because they promised to. In 1994 Ukraine gave up its nukes (it had the 3rd largest arsenal). It did this with assurances that the US, UK and Russia would all respect its existing borders.
By not helping Ukraine resist Russia, the US is reneging on that promise (by letting Russia change the borders).
Absolutely. YOU give them YOUR money. The
spicepetro dollars must flow.What you pay in taxes isn’t YOUR money so get over it.
True. But even better: What you pay in taxes even is even less related to me.
So few people understand this. It’s akin to the Jan 6 morons puking about the Capitol building being “our house”. Not it fucking isn’t, it’s the government’s building. Chanting “we the people” like morons only points out that you haven’t read or don’t understand the rest of the fucking preamble.
I’m all for countries standing by their commitments, long term. The risks of not disarming Ukraine, particularly back then, is more than worth the cost now.
Appeasement is rarely a good idea, long term, no matter which warmonger it’s aimed at.
Every dollar spent by the US on Ukraine helps undermine Russia’s global influence and protects NATO, which was the US’s goal for like 70 years now.
Absolutely. YOU give them YOUR money. The
spicepetro dollars must flow.Absolutely. YOU give them YOUR money. The
spicepetro dollars must flow.
It’s a very cheap and low effort way to reduce Russia’s ability to invade across Europe and stomp a bunch of NATO countries.
So why are we expected to be the world police
What a shortsighted lack of understanding you have there, mate.
Who would you like to be the world police? The Russians?
Oh you’re one of those right wing dumdums who don’t understand why it’s better to fight a war before the frontline reaches your homeland?
Being anti war is right wing now?
So when a country attacks a sovereign country, what is the anti-war persons solution to that?
Then why does the rest of the world about America meddling in the affairs of others?
Your reasoning is that of right wing chuds
???
What do you prefer? That Ukraine rolls over to let Russia kidnap and rape their women and children while slaughtering every male?
These 112 House Republicans voted against Ukraine aid
So very Jesus of them. /s
Reagan has got to be doing cartwheels in his coffin right now.
The fact that the only Nays were Republicans speaks volumes. The Republican party has been compromised by Russia, it’s the only explanation that makes sense.
And, to clarify for future readers, this vote was only for the Ukraine Aid portion of the package. Each part got a separate vote. So even though the package includes Israeli funding, it wasn’t part of this particular vote which was exclusively about aid to Ukraine.
112 Government of Putin representatives and fully funded by the fucking Muscovites. Every single one of those asswipes, along with the MAGATs, should join their comrades on the front to receive a special greeting from NATO and Ukrainian shrapnel. Fuck them and in this case, the French should have never helped the Americans during their fight against the Red Coats.
For those who don’t know, The New York Post was the first American media outlet that Rupert Murdoch brought back in the day. It tries to play off being ‘center Right’ as opposed to Fox News. Following the spin on the spin can break your neck.
When a Republican loses Rupert Murdock, things probably aren’t going the way you planned.
It’s a New York paper, so they can hate on MGT. They don’t have to be consistent with the message from one branch tp the other.
I remember back in 2008. The Post had two op-ed pieces on the same page. One writer said that Obama was just another neoliberal hack who’d push a softer version of GOP plans and the voters should just opt for McCain. The other said that Obama was a hard Left radical who would about an extremist agenda.
The Post had two op-ed pieces on the same page. One writer said that Obama was just another neoliberal hack who’d push a softer version of GOP plans and the voters should just opt for McCain. The other said that Obama was a hard Left radical who would about an extremist agenda.
It’s choose your own hatred adventure!
https://nypost.com/2024/04/20/us-news/house-approves-95b-in-military-aid-for-israel-ukraine/
The actual story if anyone wants to read that rag.
I still like Moscow Marge more… But hey.
Marjory Traitor Green.Perjury Traitor Scheme
I’ve heard that Marjorie Taylor Greene is just Dog the Bounty Hunter in drag. I mean, has anyone seen the two of them in the same place at the same time?
Also, I’ve heard that she (he?) has a cleft butthole.
Got a face like a deflated waterbed, that one.
The money isn’t going to turn the tide against Russia. Ukraine has no chance of winning. It is just math. Joe Biden has no interest for the well-being of Ukraine. US prefers that Ukraine bleed Russia. This means every last Ukrainian. Biden regime knows Ukraine can’t win, but that won’t stop him from lying about victory, and inflating the threat from Russia. Ukraine conflict is directly a product of US foreign policy and that alone. Even European states other than the UK don’t really support the war. At least, secretly. Publically, they have to.
What do you think “math” is?
+5 rubles for every tankie propaganda post/comment.
Honestly, what the fuck even is this bullshit?
Ukraine is fighting an invading force that is kidnapping children and targeting infrastructure. They have no choice but to keep fighting. Without financial and military support, Ukraine will cease to be.
You’re not wrong that America benefits from the proxy war that has weakened Putin militarily and politically. Putin, like Trump, is a punkass bitch who is willing to kill to keep projecting power.
If America stops supporting Ukraine, that’s not in anyone’s best interest except Putin.
With or without financial aid, Ukraine will lose. It is math. Russians invaded Ukraine because the US was trying to isolate Russia from Ukraine. This means no tolerance for pro-Russian Ukrainian presidents; the coup of 2014 that overturned the democratic vote, and the subsequent declarations of independent republics in the Donbas because of the color revolution that undermined democracy. NATO afterward starting arming and training Ukrainians will promote NATO and EU membership. NATO is a US organization, and NATO foreign policy is US foreign policy. Europeans are subservient to the US for security. Most European states don’t support the war in Ukraine privately, but for the sake of NATO unity, they publically support it, because the US pays for NATO defense.
Hey: fuck you and your shit math. These are people. Helping them is right.
The money only accelerates their demise. It is not helpful for Ukraine. It is the opposite. If Biden really cared about the Ukrainian people, he would call up a cease fire. He wants no peace deal. He wants only war. NATO is counting on the Ukrainian nationalist to send every man to their death.
Gtfo russian troll. Yeah, I look at the last three years and think: Biden… He only wants war!! Lmao
Joe Biden signed a bill that funds the military or supports the military of Taiwan, Israel, and Ukraine. Yes, he loves war. Just because he uses others as pawns doesn’t make him eligible for Nobel Peace Prize. Joe Biden is a foreign asset, a war criminal, he is compromised and intimidated. He is subordinate to US agencies and foreign lobbies. It can be argued that Joe Biden is a traitor. Biden’s voting record speaks for itself.
Look at the language. “Biden regime” “2014 coup”.
It’s written in English, but it sure sounds Russian.
4 day old account, most of it comments like this, probably getting paid in rubles. Block that shit if you value your reading time.
I mean, maybe you’re right about it being impossible for Ukrain to win. Putin is committed to hiding his fear with violence.
The “coup” in 2014 was made much easier when Yanukovych murdered a bunch of unarmed protestors and then fled the country to hide under Putin’s skirt.
NATO is a coalition of countries, which includes the USA. You’re kidding yourself if you think the EU doesn’t support Ukraine. Every EU country wants Ukrainian exports, and all of them are concerned with Russian aggression against foreign sovereign powers. The only EU country that doesn’t support defending Ukraine against invasion is Hungary, but we all know that the whiny shitbag Orban has been licking Putin’s balls in exchange for power.
Not all countries in the EU support Ukraine. It is not in their interest to support the conflict in Ukraine. If Russia was such a looming threat, they would have paid their fair share in NATO military funding. Barack Obama pointed this out, not just Trump. Obviously, they preferred to get rich, instead of spend money on the military. Viktor Orbán is the sanest leader in the EU because he tells it like it is. A Russian threat is greatly inflated with myths of a new USSR. Russians are not ideologically communist, and they have no interest in controlling other European people. They have been there and done that. The Soviets had to deal with uprising and insubordinate leaders when they controlled Eastern Europe. Uprisings in Romania and Hungary. Ukraine is a security matter for Russia. There is no imperial motivation for it. It was well established long before this conflict that NATO expansion into Ukraine would be a disaster. Angela Merkel and Sarkozy said this much including Bill Burns as Secretary of State, and ambassador. Bill Burns still works in the US government.
Viktor Orbán is the sanest leader in the EU because he tells it like it is.
Quoted without comment.
Wrong. EU countries have given over 50 billion $ support so far. Germany alone has given roughly 28 billion. There’s only a handful states that are in opposition against it, including lighthouses of democracy like Hungary…
That is publically, not privately. Europeans have no independent foreign policy. They have no sovereign foreign policy. They follow the US because the US pays for NATO, therefore NATO publically gets support from NATO members who benefit from US security. Context is important, and no, Germany does not support the war in Ukraine in private matters. Germany does not operate an independent foreign policy. It is actually against German interests to support the war in Ukraine. The US by itself would have no influence in Europe if not for NATO. NATO is the US control over Europe. Many Europeans are aware of this.
Macron reiterated calls for a third way between the U.S. and China, saying Europe must show that “it’s never going to be a vassal for the United States.” https://www.politico.eu/article/emmanuel-macron-europe-china-competition-protectionism-geopolitics/
Are you sure you know any math, in general? You sure seem to like that phrase, yet you don’t do any.
As for the rest, you might as well write in russian, because that’s exactly what it sounds like - brainwashed russian bullshit. It’s especially telling that you think that the European countries don’t care what happens to Ukraine. That’s such utter idiocy that it could only come from Russia.
What is that post you’re replying to? It’s obvious tankie propaganda.
If you asked me in 2019 if I thought who would win between Russia and Ukraine I would have said no doubt Russia would win. After they took Crimea in 2014 it seemed it was only a matter of time. But after Ukraine successfully fought back Russia from taking Kyiv at the start of the war now I’m sure if Ukraine had the the proper funding they could defeat Russia.
Watching Russia actually mobilize and use some of the ancient tanks that modern weapons easily penatrate and destroy…and to see that they were even desperate enough to dig in and go through the red forest at Chernobyl to try to take Kyiv and still failed…it showed how desperate, under-funded, weak, and terribly lead the Russians are. It seems the only way Russia can beat this tiny nation is by literally throwing millions of men at bullets and hope that the Ukrainian defenders run out of ammo.
If Ukraine can be properly funded it will win. If you know you have the ammo and supply chains needed to keep the Ukrainian front line defenders properly supplied, just throwing away Russian lives endlessly wont work. Tankies desperately need the western populations to turn against funding the war in Ukraine because Russia has already been completely embarrassed in this war. The first major protests against putin inside Russia by armed mercenaries have happened directly as a result of this war. Putin could very well end up dead and Russia could have a whole new system of government if Ukraine is able to stabilize and push back in the coming years. People in Russia are tired of the war, Putin NEEDS a total victory to stay in power.
Don’t let tankies convince you otherwise. The fact this war is still going on and that Russia has won so little territory from Ukraine shows that Russia is extremely weak. A properly funded Ukraine can win. Putin could easily end up dead, he is extremely paranoid. The fact that the Wagner group staged an armed protest in Russia is huge. All it will take is the right spark in Russia and there could be a massive revolt against the Russian government.
The only other way I see Russia winning is by using nukes. But if that happens I don’t think Nato or the rest of the world would just let it slide…most likely it would lead to WW3.
Good. Amazing how people are suffering here but we always have the money for foreign countries. Next time they say how can we fund Healthcare, homelessness or some program designed to help us people remember this.
It’s a pretty selfish take. The US is (iirc) the largest economy on the planet. We take an absurd amount for granted and our standard of living compared to the vast majority of the world is insane. And yes - we’ve built it on the backs of damn near every culture on the planet. We deserve to give up aid to other nations. It is the least we can do. And frankly, this is a drop in the federal budget. Almost a rounding error. And even more, the majority of the money is gonna come right back into our economy because guess what - those weapons and ammo are going to be bought from U. S. defense contractors.
Perhaps you may live a privileged life but many of us don’t. And that money will end up in the pockets of corporations and those who own them, not us peasants. If standards were better and we had what some would say are basic rights such as Healthcare then it would be less of a problem
Yeah, let’s pretend that these people aren’t the same ones that vote against healthcare, homeless shelters and giving women a choice…How stupid are you?
I never said I’m with them. I’m simply saying that our money shouldn’t be diverted else where when people here are suffering. Don’t put words in my mouth.
If a small number of Repubs would vote for that it would probably pass also.
Since rest of the thread is undirected anger without naming names, let’s name names!
This should be the boarding list for the next container ship to Sochi.
So THIS is where Voronezh healthcare money went. Fuck em, please.
Find your representative here and make note if they’re on this list. They’re up for reelection two years after being elected.
Good for Speaker Johnson. It was a mistake for the far right to support him. He’s an evangelical, but he’s also a true believer, rather than a grifter. When fully briefed on the intelligence, he ultimately chose to do the right thing.
Send them to the front line to fight for their motherland.
If you care as much about Ukraine as you claim to why don’t you go to the front lines and fight for them… Better yet, why aren’t you advocating the United States to go directly to war with Russia? Wouldn’t it be cheaper to get rid of Putin once and for all and to make Russia pay for the war?
Getting rid of Putin, and for that matter Xi, will likely not do a thing to stop the war on the Russian side, and the clear plans for invasion in the Chinese side.
Hard evidence that neither country has functioning nukes would, but getting rid of either one just creates a power vaccume that will quickly be filled by someone that is likely to look much like their predecessor.
So what you’re saying is that there is no winning the war against Russia… Just sending more money to Ukraine indefinitely?
No, I’m saying we have entered a new Cold War against both China and Russia that is likely to last for the next several decades. We can’t win a war. There are no winners in war. All we can do is provide enough resistance now to prevent the cold war we are in from boiling into active shooting in other theaters.
The reason it hasn’t boiled into active war between countries is because we aren’t sending American troops to Ukraine to fight the war.
Ukraine isn’t asking anyone to go to the front and fight for them. They’re asking for this aid. Anyone who cares about Ukraine as much as they claim will listen to what Ukraine asks for.
Halp me. They are attacking me send money, not reinforcements.
Geez, you have to be either blind or dumb to not see what this is. Proxy war is war. This is about money at this point, and what better way to funnel money than through aid packages.
They can send money to their weapon manufacturers even without this war, you know?
You dumb fuck. They’re sending that money in the form of weapons, ammo, fuel, tools, and equipment. Zelenskyy even said “I don’t need a ride, I need more bullets.”
Halp me. They are attacking me send money, not reinforcements.
You think they are going to send a bag of money to Ukraine? Are you really that dumb? The approved amount is for weapons and ammo.
Are you suggesting these Ukrainians on the front line begging for ammo are getting rich off of this somehow?
Idiotic.
- why don’t I go fight? Because I’m not a fucking soldier. It would be a net negative for me to go fight. I have no military experience whatsoever. Ignoring the myriad other reasons.
- No, it’s far less expensive to send equipment and give intel to Ukraine. Why the fuck do you think proxy war is a thing?
Of course, you’re just shit-talking.
