• Cowbee@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago

    Just… stop supporting Israel? That’s it. Please. If the genocide stops and Netanyahu goes down for it, we are on a less dark timeline.

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    4 months ago

    I feel like this is just fascist propaganda to further entrench Netanyahu’s position. The idea of Brandon taking a move like this against Israel seems iffy.

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    4 months ago

    Well they aren’t exactly being an allied nation right now. So other than giving them to the wolves, if the Israeli people want the US as an Allie, they need to decide between peace and genocide.

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      Sorry but the US isn’t exactly the pacifist and/or peacekeeping nation, you think they are. Not to mention that they are trying to spy on their own allies, tap their phones, install backdoors in network equipment, persecute whistle blowers, etc., meddle with other countries internal affairs, trying to stifle the competition of other countries economics and what not. And now supporting full blown genocide and sending arms to Israel. And believe me a lot of people in the US were very happy when the UK left the EU.

      So they are just a tad better than Russia in my books and I wonder what the world would be like without countries like the US, Russia, China.

  • teamevil@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    He definitely shouldn’t be in charge of anything…he’s dehumanizing humans…like a country and leader did in the 1930’s.

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      4 months ago

      Yeah

      Israel had every right to defend themselves against the Hamas but what he and his far right ministers are doing and saying is making it really hard to support them and believe that it’s really only an attempt to eradicate Hamas and not also about expanding Israel as they do in the Westbank for years.

      They are really making it almost impossible to support the legitimate cause of rescuing hostages and security their population from Hamas and are actively fuelling antisemitism through the anti-zionism they provoke

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        Dude … straight numbers…you really think that many in Gaza were actual Hamas vs Palestinians trying to live their lives? Hamas sucks but this is like trying to kill all Florida because of a few Florida men, or all of DC because of politicians…this is genocide and there is no way to defend it.

        Edit: Israel literally made up lies about rape and got that bullshit published in the New York Times ruining them as actual journalism and then bombed refuge camps…not an easy argument to defend.

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          You know how many people in Germany that weren’t died because of the bombings?

          If your government starts a war you have to pay the price.

          Why is noone calling Hamas to surrender?

          Sure Israel is definitely able to be more careful and their right wing ministers are only adding fuel - but that doesn’t really change their right to defend themselves (and Hamas is still attacking them each day)

          That whole situation is a total clusterfuck and I really wish Israel would get rid of netanyahu and vote for someone that’s interested in a long term solution that’s including Palestine.

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      Western leaders didn’t mind that guy in the 1930s for a good while until his dehumanizing got too carried away. After financing him, supporting him and allowing him to gain power for a good while, it then began to get too difficult to get him out of power … then things got carried away … and you know the rest.

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        Seems like no one cared so much about the dehumanizing (a lot of which was hidden and not fully discovered until later) and instead it was more about stopping his massive land grab.

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        Don’t forget IBM building the systems to efficiently catalog and murder the jews in the holocaust, and pretty much every non-jewish-owned corporation being perfectly happy empowering fascism for profit — no different to today, with most major corporations still “donating” to R’s and every other fascist or dictator globally.

        Turns out capitalism doesn’t give two shits about freedom or democracy and only worships the almighty dollar…

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        And some idiotic folks in this country think trump isn’t marching straight into that same history…replace jew with LGBT and there you go.

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    Ok how does that stop far-right Zionists? Will there be a crackdown on fascists? No? They’ll come back into power soon because Israel is a racist colonial ethnostate.

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      4 months ago

      If you’re under the impression that Israelis universally support Netanyahu, I have a feeling you’ve never actually talked to any.

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    4 months ago

    On one hand the USA does this all the time (cough Imran Khan cough)

    On the other hand, they like having Israel, just none of the accusations of genocide that might ruin poor Biden’s election campaign

    Knowing what happened to USS Liberty, I seriously doubt they’re trying to overthrow Netanyahu. Probably trying to bribe him or other members to cool off so the news goes away for a bit.

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      On one hand the USA does this all the time (cough Imran Khan cough)

      Mainly to leftist governments though, and Bibi’s a right-wing extremist. He’s the sort of person the US usually installs, which is why there’s no way in hell they’d try to overthrow him

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    I doubt the US is trying to overthrow Netanyahu, but if they were, I’m glad of it.