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Hamas better not do anything stupid over the next six week period.
hamas proposed a full ceasefire with the release of all hostages and israel rejected it
Israel didn’t like the terms and they have most of the leverage, Anthony Blinken said there were a lot of “non-starters” in the offer. What exactly those were I don’t think has been made public.
Yet no mention of the IDF
Hamas broke the ceasefire Oct. 7th.
Did you just link to a source that said both sides broke it and act like it said only one broke it?
Each blames the other, yet there are clear examples of how Israel claims Hamas broke the ceasefire there.
For those repeatedly reporting this:
“Talks took place in Doha, the Qatari capital, on Saturday and were expected to move to Cairo on Sunday as the scale of looming starvation pushed the US to start air-dropping food into the enclave.”
The Israeli agreement apparently happened in Doha, but won’t be official until they sign the agreement in Cairo… where they may not actually show up.
It’s passed Sunday into Monday, so we’ll see where it goes, but I’m frankly not optimistic.
too late bro the blind mob is here
Its curious to see how the media narrative has turned in the wake of some of these primary votes. Biden’s gone from “Israel can do no wrong” to “We’re doing everything we can (short of denying them more weapons and diplomatic cover at the UN) to stop these atrocities”.
I have to wonder what happens as we close in on the general election and Trump goes all in on being pro-Palestinian genocide. Do the Democrats rediscover their love of human rights and rules based international order? Or do they all double back and try to out-compete the Republicans on the “We Love Israel” front?
Generally, it’s pro-Israel all the way down because of donations. That’s really all they care about.
It goes a bit beyond that, even. Israel is pivotal to the control of the Suez canal and a point of military access into the Persian Gulf for Western forces. They’re the guard dog of the Middle East, a central trading hub between the Mediterranean and the Indian Ocean, and an agricultural hub in a region notorious for drought. There are lots of reasons to support Zionism that go beyond just getting a bundler with an AIPAC affiliation channeling donor cash in your direction.
To quote old Smoke’n Joe Biden, “If Israel did not exist, we would have to invent it.”
We uhh… we actually control the Suez. Well the Egyptians administer it. But the Sinai Peninsula is a UN peacekeeping mission. Which always has an American Infantry Battalion deployed.
we actually control the Suez. Well the Egyptians administer it. But the Sinai Peninsula is a UN peacekeeping mission.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suez_Crisis#Motives_for_invading_Egypt
Well yes. That is what led to the current situation in the Sinai Peninsula. The point is we don’t need Israel for the Suez Canal.
The Israeli military is critical in keeping a Western friendly government in control of Egypt.
The writer said in an article in Maariv newspaper that “the outbreak of the January revolution coincided with the Israeli security assessment that President-elect Mohamed Morsi, a Muslim Brotherhood man, intended to cancel the peace agreement with Israel and send more Egyptian military forces to the Sinai Peninsula.”
“At that stage, Israel was quick and willing to activate its diplomatic tools, and perhaps even greater means, to bring Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi to power in Egypt, and convince the then US administration under President Barack Obama not to oppose this move.”
Sisi runs the intelligence from his presidential office and sends all agency reports to Israel. This is evidenced by the fact that the entire region is being arranged for the benefit of Israel, both politically and militarily. Egypt is now losing its authority over the Red Sea and oil wells, and is losing its ability to bypass water obstacles, and is also losing the Nile.
Hamas will never accept any offer that lets the young female hostages tell of their horrors. They’ll mull it over and find some excuse.
Its all projection, folks.
Israeli military chief rabbi-designate under fire over remarks on rape
Rabbi Colonel Eyal Karim’s remarks 14 years ago stirred controversy at the time and remain on an Israeli religious website today
He responded that in the interests of maintaining warriors’ morale and fighting fitness during armed conflict, it was permitted to “satisfy the evil inclination by lying with attractive Gentile women against their will”.
His nomination on Monday as the military’s head rabbi by its chief of staff revived public debate over Karim. Yedioth Ahronoth, Israel’s best-selling newspaper, weighed in with a front-page headline that read: “New chief military rabbi: rape is permissible in a war”.
UN experts condemn ‘credible’ reports of executions, sexual assault by Israeli soldiers
The independent experts affiliated with the U.N. Human Rights Council said the allegations constitute “egregious human rights violations,” adding to criticisms of the Israeli war effort in Gaza as its military reportedly prepares a ground invasion of Rafah.
“We are particularly distressed by reports that Palestinian women and girls in detention have also been subjected to multiple forms of sexual assault, such as being stripped naked and searched by male Israeli army officers,” the experts said. “At least two female Palestinian detainees were reportedly raped while others were reportedly threatened with rape and sexual violence.”
The release adds that some photographs of women in degrading circumstances had been distributed online by Israeli soldiers.
There has, to my knowledge, not been a single first-hand account of a woman saying “I was raped by Hamas”. All of it is based on anonymous eye witnesses, dead bodies Israel assures us were raped, or doctors speaking on behalf of returned hostages they refuse to name and have yet to come forward.
For as much rape as supposedly went on it sure is strange that there aren’t at least a few victims speaking of their experiences, if only just to confirm it happened. I’m happy to believe women when there are women to believe.
There has, to my knowledge, not been a single first-hand account of a woman saying “I was raped by Hamas”.
No sudden influx of women into Israeli rape crisis centers, either. No hospitals on record with a surge of sexual assault victims. It appears to be an entirely fabricated claim, intended to deflect the more embarrassing nature of the incident (Palestinian rebels overwhelming a poorly administered IDF checkpoint) by re-contextualizing a kind of massive prison break as a Clockwork Orange orgy of ultra-violence.
I’m happy to believe women when there are women to believe.
Well, unless they’re Palestinian women, in which case they can’t be trusted because they are Hamas.
A ceasefire in exchange for what?
Giving up the only leverage they have over Israel?
Holding civilians hostage is a war crime. So do you support war crimes?
kidnapping is a crime. Gaza isn’t a state. it doesn’t have a military. this isn’t a war.
Israel ended it’s occupation of Gaza a long time ago. You’re probably too young to have been following the news back then. Israel removed all it’s settlements from Gaza and withdrew it’s military. There was a lot of hope for the future of Gaza. It’s on the sea and could trade. There’s nice beaches there, so who knows, there could even be a tourist industry there.
A lot of optimism back then. This was the path to peace. Once the economy improves in Gaza, and there’s peace and prosperity there, the world could pressure Israel to do the same with the West Bank.
Then a plurality of Palestinians voted for Hamas. Hamas took power. Well shit.
It seems a lot of Palestinians didn’t consider the
There was a failed attempt to depose them. And a blockade. Because of course… the Hamas government had as it’s stated goal to destroy Israel.
And yeah Hamas wasn’t effective at governing. Fascists never are never very good at that. But the UN filled in the gaps for them. Kept things going more or less.
But just because Gaza was a failed state doesn’t mean it wasn’t a state. And yeah it wasn’t recognized by anyone because no one in their right mind would recognize the Hamas psychos as a legitimate government.
Gaza was briefly the only free part of Palestine. Until Hamas fucked it all up.
>Fascists never are never very good at that
Mussolini made the trains run on time. you’ll forgive me if I don’t believe you have a good historical analysis or knowledge.
>Gaza was briefly the only free part of Palestine. Until Hamas fucked it all up.
Israel can free Palestine right now. get rid of the walls and lift the blockade. it is Israel that keeps Palestine from being free.
that’s all aaron bushnell right there. most noble american act of the 20th century
You think the reason for this is the guy who immolated himself? Why? He’s not even mentioned in this article.
Hamas has repeatedly rejected any kind of temporary ceasefire. I can’t see why this would be any different.
Was Hamas even involved in the drafting of this deal or did the US and Israel just throw this together to paint Hamas as unreasonable when they reject it again? None of the articles I’ve read have made any effort to clarify who drew this up beyond vaguely gesturing at Israel, US, and Egypt.
Hamas has repeatedly rejected any kind of temporary ceasefire.
Palestinian officials have advocated for a permanent ceasefire, with the expectation that any concessions they extract from the Israelis will be forfeit as soon as a temporary ceasefire closes.
Was Hamas even involved in the drafting of this deal
Right now, the primary advocates on behalf of the Palestinians are Qatari and Egyptian officials with sympathies toward their Arab neighbors. Any actual members of Hamas have been playing cat-and-mouse with Israeli assassins, which has in turn made the Israeli demands for a proper accounting of hostages very difficult.
After all, if you clearly state how many hostages survived the carpet-bombing of Northern Gaza, the Israelis can use that figure to coordinate their strikes in and around the southern end.
I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. I don’t know what the terms of this one are, but past cease fires have basically required Hamas to surrender. Giving up their only leverage, hostages, and allowing IDF to strictly control everyone and everything going in and out of Gaza, free to shut off power and water as they feel, and block aid.
As you say, they have very little leverage. What they can offer is returning the hostages and a guarantee of safety for Israel and in exchange, they can get peace and relative freedom. At this point they should probably negotiate for whatever they can get, because the alternative is complete destruction. Belligerence hasn’t worked out well for them, perhaps they should try something else.
I wouldn’t expect any trust and goodwill considering their stated goal is to genocide Jews and destroy Israel.
Oh yay, a possible 6 weeks of just a little genocide instead of full on genocide!
So, you don’t want a ceasefire?
I want a permanent ceasefire and an end to the genocide.
And what terms do you propose that would be observed by Hamas?
They’d probably be pretty happy with an end to the apartide state
The reason there’s a massive security apparatus around Palestine is not to oppress Palestinians or impose racial hierarchy, it is because they have been trying to murder Jews for the last 70+ years.
The violence against Israel is the reason for this. Hamas is a cause of the violence. They create the very situation they say they want to end.
If they want the walls to come down and the blockade to end, they need to show a commitment to peace, rather than a commitment to genocide.
Being real, that depends on if Hamas and Israel want it. Seeing as Hamas literally has Israel’s destruction in their charter, any ceasefire is only temporary
