1. over time this might affect our collective consciousness in regards to the purpose & function of the eggplant; and

  2. can we please just get a straightforward penis emoji already?? Half the human population has a penis attached to their bodies anyway, why are we still so prude about incorporating actual penises into mainstream vernacular & daily life?

  • entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    7 months ago

    You should probably transcribe the contents of your addendum photo for the visually impaired so their screen readers can read it

  • intensely_human@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    7 months ago

    Can we please stop these idiotic calls to de-profanify all things and pretend everything’s for every situation.

    Are you aware we invented clothing super super super early on, and that humans tend to wear loincloths when there’s no other need for clothing?

    Stop trying to greenfield rewrite culture. It’s like trying to tear down a bridge you’re standing on.

    • Chee_Koala@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      7 months ago

      I don’t get this, it should be enough to choose for yourself to use or not use profanity, but somehow it isn’t. Why?

      • okamiueru@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        edit-2
        7 months ago

        There is no good answer to that question. Too many don’t understand the importance of context/intention, and unfortunately they are also the same ones that get easily offended on behalf of everyone else. Part of the “but, the discussion should be more about meeee, and my feelings, and how offended I am”-mindset.

        Which is why “kid cosplaying as early days MJ” manages to offend anyone. Why you cannot watch the Community episode on D&D. Why they likely wouldn’t dare make Tropic Thunder today. Why many git-branches are renamed to main, etc, ad nauseum.

        Even though unicode group could (and IMO should) define all things useful, I don’t see why “male-genitals-flaccid”, and variations, couldn’t be specified. Doesn’t require any application level visual implementation. But those that do, and have good reason to, can use a specification, rather than make up their own. Not really a big deal, of course.

        If you can have

        "1F646 🙆 face with “ok” gesture, described as a person with arms raised above the head forming a “circle”, interpreted as “OK sign” (derived from the Japanese gesture for “OK”). Intended as gender-neutral but represented as a woman on most platforms

        Just, throw in a penis or two. It’s… fine

  • fubo@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    edit-2
    7 months ago

    Here’s an oddity … people use 🍆 “eggplant” for penis, and 🍑 “peach” for butt, but there doesn’t seem to be a general consensus on which emoji to use for vulva. Some options include:

    • Flowers such as 🌷 “tulip” or 🌹 “rose”
    • 🐚 “spiral shell”; compare South American Spanish concha
    • 🦪 “oyster”; which has a visible pearl (i.e. clitoris) on many systems
    • Food items whose names are used as slang for vulva, such as 🍯 “honey pot” or 🌮 “taco”
    • 👛 “purse”; compare the origin of the word “pussy” in English
    • Any of the various cat emoji, also for “pussy”

    (Really there are plenty of other options for penis as well, such as 🌽 “ear of corn” or 🕹 “joystick”, but folks seem to have settled on the eggplant.)

  • Potatisen@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    7 months ago

    For nr 2, in America, where most of this stuff comes from, it’s super taboo with sex and anatomy. Violence, theft and other things are ok tho… 🍆

    • rar@discuss.online
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      7 months ago

      Seeing how the gun emoji was rebranded into a water gun, I won’t be surprised if same process is attempted anywhere in the world.

    • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      7 months ago

      Specifically the Unicode Consortium is the body that adopts new emoji. It is incorporated out of California.

      • LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.worldOP
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        edit-2
        7 months ago

        yeah I remember reading how some guy came up with an idea for an emoji and the long process leading up to being invited to Silicon Valley to present his idea at this consortium and his delight after jumping through all the hoops for his emoji idea to be finally accepted

  • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    7 months ago

    We can’t even have a gun or a middle finger emoji. I doubt we’re getting a penis one anytime soon.

    • DarkMetatron@feddit.de
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      7 months ago

      Well there is🖕and 🔫 in UTF 8 at least, so it is kind of there as an emoji.

      But as the UTF 8 pistol is shown as a water gun this very much shows why a penis will always be denied.

      • vsg@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        7 months ago

        The gun emoji used to be a real gun, but controversies made Apple change their emoji into a water gun. Other companies followed suit.

        • DarkMetatron@feddit.de
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          7 months ago

          Yes, that’s exactly what I meant, a gun in UTF 8 had already produced a shitstorm of controversies, a penis (and vagina to complete the set) would most likely break the Internet due to the outrage of puritans and other people with strong opinions.

        • intensely_human@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          7 months ago

          Because the way to prevent mass shootings is to remove people’s ability to convey the concept of gun in communication.

          It’s a flawless plan with no possible downsides.

  • HeavyRaptor@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    7 months ago

    Would the black version of the penis emoji be longer than the others? Would it be an erect or a flaccid penis? Why not both? Or better even, a full range of male excitement. The applications are endless!

    (I’m joking of course but it does demonstrate the silly questions you would have to answer if you were to actually implement this)

    • Hadriscus@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      7 months ago

      I love this kind of thought experiment. Also, as representation is paramount, what would a vulva emoji look like ? there are so many flavours to them

      • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        7 months ago

        Where are the tits emojis?

        Are the round or saggy? Big or small? Pointy? Perky? With an upward curve like a ski jump?

        Big aerolas? Small? Symmetrical? Light skin tone? Dark skin tone?

        Options here people!

        WE NEED OPTIONS!

        … On a more serious note, having just the penis added to the emote list would be sexist. Gotta be inclusive.

        Also, the reason this doesn’t happen and probably won’t happen, is that emojis are universal, so everyone gets them… Including small children. I know of a lot of people who would have a problem with that.

  • key@lemmy.keychat.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    7 months ago

    Just last week I meant to make eggplant parm but got mixed up and next thing you know I was deep throating that sucker. Dinner was ruined.

    Feel free to submit a request to the Unicode Consortium in April when they open up again but given vulva/vagina was previously declined I doubt they’ll accept penis https://www.unicode.org/emoji/emoji-requests.html

  • rar@discuss.online
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    7 months ago

    I always thought incorporating a drawing into legit character encoding is not a good idea.

    • emptyother@programming.dev
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      7 months ago

      We got space. Its not like a new language with unique character sets are just gonna pop up any day now. Maybe if we found intelligent aliens.

    • AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      7 months ago

      Unicode has ~150k characters, many of which are not supported by any fonts on most people’s computers. They still have space in the encoding system for another 900k. They have the space.

      For comparison, the Basic Multilingual Plane in Unicode (the most “useful” part with most modern languages) only contains 65k characters and ASCII only contains 128 characters.

    • LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      7 months ago

      My 42-year-old boyfriend felt the same way, until one day I made a verbal observation to him that when men include a :-) in a text to a woman, it means he wants to fuck her. He said, “Yes that’s probably true.” Over the next couple years he, by now my ex, started using colorful emojis all over the place in desperate Facebook flirting attempts, because he apparently came to the conclusion that emojis must be chick magnets somehow. But no, it just made him look like a ___________ (fill in your own adjectives, they’re probably correct).

    • Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      7 months ago

      I love emojis even though I don’t use them much. I just think it’s really cool that this idea emerged and everyone got on board and now it’s almost like a whole universal language - modern hieroglyphics or whatever else you want to call it. Plus they’re just kinda fun and sometimes it’s easier to convey a reaction with a specific smiley than it is with words. Language, however beautiful and elegant, is still sometimes wanting, you know?

      • AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        7 months ago

        𓃻𓆓𓏲𓆓𓃾 𓌓𓏴𓊽𓂝𓃾 𓂝𓆓 𓉐𓂝𓇯 𓃻𓃾𓆓𓏲𓆓. 𓌙𓁶𓌙 𓀠𓂧 𓉗𓇯 𓌅𓃾 𓂋𓃾𓌓 𓇯𓉐𓂝𓃻𓃾 𓂝𓆓 𓈖𓏲𓏴𓉐𓃾 𓌙𓏲 𓉐𓂝𓏴 𓃾𓊽