• HACKthePRISONS@kolektiva.social
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    7 months ago

    > its that a tacit non-democratic vote is a vote for fascism.

    a vote for biden is a vote for fascism. the antifascist candidates i see are cornel west and jill stein.

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      7 months ago

      Splitting the Dem vote with third parties is a good way to get Trump elected. So it’s a sideways way of voting for extreme fascism.

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        7 months ago

        Yep. Duverger’s law and history. Third party haven’t been able to get significant points to the point where they win the election in first past the post system. So, basically Cornell West and Jill Stein are completely worthless.

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      7 months ago

      if you dont hold your nose and vote non-trump, those 3rd parties will never get a chance again. at the very least the DNC do pretend democracy. trump isnt even pretending democracy anymore.

      so yeah, vote those 3rd parties one last time.

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            7 months ago

            This is one of the people who has been trying to convince me that Cornel West has a decent chance of being president. Take from that what you will.

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              7 months ago

              And this person talks about the upballot when the subject matter was downballot. He wasn’t able to answer how is Cornell West or Jill Stein relevant when it comes to downballot choices of people who refuses to vote for Biden.

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                  7 months ago

                  You’re going to need to explain that.

                  I offered an alternative to voting against Democrats, and that is the primary, and that means picking the downballot that has the most chances along with ones that aligns with ones’ view the best. You weren’t the person I responded to. And then, you decided to talk about the upballot instead. And the subject matter of the alternative wasn’t really anything to do with the upballot, and you’re not able to give a sastisfactory answer as to how they’re relevant to this proposal.

                  • HACKthePRISONS@kolektiva.social
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                    7 months ago

                    >And then, you decided to talk about the upballot instead.

                    i never talked about the downballot at all. anyone can see exactly what i quoted, and what i said, and that i’m not getting dragged along into voting for even more democrats.

                  • HACKthePRISONS@kolektiva.social
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                    7 months ago

                    poisoning the well is a form of ad hominem where you say (or imply) that someone’s arguments are unsound because of something else they have said or done. it’s prima facie ad hominem because you are attacking the person, not the argument.