The group of more than a dozen masked individuals marched wearing red shirts and black pants, waving flags with swastikas on them. It is not clear at this time who the group is or affiliated with, though many of the shirts said “Blood Tribe.”
The first time MAGA wore masks of their own volition.
I miss when Nazis weren’t such cowards they covered their faces. How else are we supposed to ostracize them from society.
Nazi scum.
Nazis are one of the United States oldest enemies. I get free speech but I still don’t understand why there isn’t a K.O.S. order to all able-bodied Americans for any Nazi. When someone is identified as a Nazi, it should not only be legal, but an order for any armed person in the country to open fire. Immediately.
Cool. I think you’re a Nazi. Boom, you’re dead.
See any problem with that?
Who governs this body of K.O.S. targets? Is it a democratically elected position? What happens if the wrong person is elected to this position and suddenly Muslims, queer, or communists are placed on this list?
This is why we need Judge Dredd. The Karl Urban version, not Stallone. I don’t wanna deal with Rob Schneider playing a role in this KOS scenario.
Who governs this body of K.O.S. targets?
looks at username
After Tuvix, you’re in no position to lecture.
Tuvix is different. He - it - was far too ugly for my crew. Just look at it. I’d fuck a lizard before Tuvix
You know B’Ellana reprogrammed the replicators to give you decaf, right? Only for your voiceprint, too.
Yep, Authoritarians die by the rules they make against others.
lol they aren’t enemies, half our cops and 1/3 of our politicians share the same rancid ideals.
If anything, how jan6 is being handled as compared to the Floyd protests should make that abundantly clear.
Dickless losers.
Yo that’s kinda demeaning to people without dicks.
They’re spineless and witless and heartless and brainless and feckless. But the presence or lack of a dick has no bearing on character.
Because they identify as male, and yet they may as well not have a dick, for all the value they bring to society.
Most people without dicks are not losers.
Granted, I accept that there is a subset of people who do not have a dick and are also losers, and most of these people do not deserve to be associated with these scum.
However, ultimately, the purpose of my comment was quite clearly not to insult those people, but to dig into the core of what the people in the march hold valuable and insult them.
If you’re not a member of the march, you’re not a dickless loser. However, if you are in the march, then in reality you are a dickless loser because neither you nor your penis (or lack thereof) has no value to society.
I don’t think there were any women in this march.
Thats offense to invertebrates
This is an article on a local Tennessee FOX News page. The comments on the article have some disgusting whataboutism brain rot being posted trying to distract from the fact that THERE ARE LITERAL NAZI FLAGS BEING MARCHED UNIRONICLY IN PUBLIC. Tennessee has some filth within its borders…
These people are in every state.
Yeah but try this in Queens.
yeah, but i don’t know of any states that don’t.
these guys definitely should’ve caught a lot more hate than they did though. if some horrible accident befell those people, it’d have been a net positive for everyone else.
personally i’ve always hated Illinois Nazis, and i think i hate Nashville Nazis more.
Illinois has very few. Come try this in Chicago.
People also unironically go to Kid Rock’s bar in Nashville.
Be like Captain America
That’s amazing.
Is that a third character in the middle back or is that Captain America’s fist with some orange effect in front of it? I’ve been trying to make out who it’s supposed to be but can’t get anywhere.
It’s The Rocketeer
E: oops, I replied from my inbox without seeing that this was already answered
It might be Rocket Man.
That was close enough to get me to The Rocketeer, which the poster is clearly what’s there. Good guess! I thought I recognized the helmet, but it’s just blurry enough that it looks like it could have been something else.
It is MORE THAN A DOZEN!!! Like 14!!! Maybe even 15!!!
I think the best thing to do is to let them humiliate themselves.
They wear masks because they know what they do is unacceptable and would ruin their livelihood if it could be traced back to them personally.
They are still out there matching as Nazis.
Humiliation is not enough.The best thing to do is punch them and toss them in the deepest hole you can find. The second best thing to do is to let them humiliate themselves. You just have to be careful with that second one though because of the saying about a nazi drinking at a bar.
I agree about punching them in the deepest hole.
If you see someone punch a nazi, no you didn’t. That nazi fell.
I disagree. You can fight them not descending to their level. You are better.
Dude they’re fucking Nazis
Punching a Nazi isn’t sinking to their level. Shooting a Nazi in the head and burying them in a shallow grave would be sinking to their level. Punching them in the face and reminding them that they never should have crawled out of whatever rock they’d been hiding under is just being a good American. It’s what Captain America would do after all.
If every time a Nazi pokes their head out they get punched in the face, one of two things will happen, either they’ll stop poking their head out, or they’ll reevaluate their life choices and decide to stop being a Nazi. Either option is a win for everyone else.
I could sit at home jerking off with Cheeto dust on my titties and be better than them, but that doesn’t get Nazis off the street. They already understand that their actions are wrong that’s why they wear masks. They are not humiliated, humiliation won’t work.
You don’t tolerate intolerance.
Except when the intolerance is directed at people/groups we don’t like
Read up on the paradox of tolerance.
They are Nazis. Fuck sakes.
But but but who will think of the poor nazis
When you have to be a contrarian so fucking bad you turn nazi for it
You can be tolerant of nazis if you want, but I’m just going to keep punching them.
It’s not clear that you don’t like them.
If they just marching, they have not done anything unlawful or even installer at except speech.
I kind of think if they got punched in the fucking face on a regular basis maybe we would see a lot less of them and their evil bullshit.
be better all you want. but personally just fucking them up on sight would be ok with me.
let other people be better, but the being better part is what allows these kinds of people to freely march in the first place.
these people thrive on confrontation, and feel that confrontation will make others flock to their side. i think we should give them all the confrontation they want, basically at every opportunity. being better than them is good in the long run. being worse than them will get them off the streets.
this is Nashville, we can do both.
Of course they were wearing masks. If they sincerely thought their beliefs were in the right, they wouldn’t care if people knew who they were. They would proudly show themselves and stand behind those beliefs publicly.
Cowards.
This is a common trope in these topics. And I gotta say, to be perfectly honest, that I hate it.
Leftists/anti-fascists also rely on having face coverings to protect themselves from state repression, and doxxing from nazis, despite being right in their beliefs.
I get where you’re coming from with the sentiment, I do. But rather than taking issue with the masks themselves, I’d recommend taking action (or at least encouraging it) and physically removing their masks so they can be properly doxxed themselves and face the consequences of their violent and hateful beliefs.
What would you guess is the percentage of them that screamed that masks are killing people during covid?
Can i choose a number above 100% because i’m willing to entertain that possibility.
If we’re counting members of their group who screamed about masks and then subsequently died from covid, the amount of members that have screamed about masks might be larger than their current membership.
Not defending them, but they can certainly think they are in the right and realize that most of society violently disagrees with them. I’d say they were smart to wear masks to avoid repercussions from their vile, awful, hateful behavior.
I hope that if their names come out that they lose their jobs, get their asses kicked, get disowned by family and friends, and get run out of town. They know that many people feel the same as I do so, even if they really believe the filth they represent, they are probably scared to show their faces.
The infuriating part is when everyone on the Right goes on Twitter and pretends they are “feds” pretending to be Right Wing for…reasons? “Feds” was trending on Twitter as this happened, and the last time there was a fascist March, the one with the khakis.
Like I’m glad they are disowning these guys but doing it by calling them Feds is actually not saying it would be bad if it was real, seems like only a matter of time before one of these groups gets into a Waco-style shootout with police and they become martyrs for some reason.
Like how “antifa” did Jan 6? It’s just every person who got caught and put on trial was the MAGA exception they “tricked” into the insurrection.
The infuriating part is when everyone on the Right goes on Twitter and pretends they are “feds” pretending to be Right Wing for…reasons?
The Party of Personal Responsibility seems to be full of people who believe that any time someone agrees with them in public, it’s part of a nefarious government plot to make them look bad.
The cops and FBI are riddled with right wing nutjobs. There’s not been a Democrat to hold the position of FBI director, afaik.
But simultaneously if they DID get arrested or something else happened Republicans would IMMEDIATELY be demanding their release.
Just like how J6 was all Democrat agitators but if Trump wins he’ll be pardoning them all Day one.
Trump ain’t gonna pardon shit. Do you know how much effort signing something takes, especially if it’s helping out poor people? He’ll leave em to rot except maybe one high profile case to make a show of things.
Shoot them? I mean you have guns over there right, so for fuck sake use them at least once for a good reason.
The cops get really pissy about that for some reason. Guns for me (and my Nazi buddies) but not for thee, i guess.
We tried calling in the police but strangely they were all busy with some other event.
they were all busy with some other event.
Laundering their white hoods, of course.
👀
Yeah, I don’t know if free speech covers this.
We (Allies) never made peace with the Nazis. We crushed their military and hanged any officials that didn’t eat cyanide, but there was no treaty or surrender. We didn’t even let the Germans govern themselves until we could figure out who wasn’t a Nazi.
I would argue that anyone who flies that flag is effectively pledging allegiance to an enemy. And like… The enemy. The guys who industrialized genocide and literally tried to take over the world.
So idk about shooting them if they’re just jerking each other off in the street. But I would like to channel Aldo Raine and carve swastikas into their foreheads.
Good luck with that more than half our nations cops are on the fascist’s side.
half our nations cops
Half? Police is literally a fascist institution - ie, funded and manipulated into existence by capitalists to protect their power and privilege from the people they exploited to get said power and privilege in the first place.
It’s not half - it’s all of them by default.
My estimate is that only about half would actually march under the banner if there was no social consequences. I could be wrong but I’ve known a few hundred cops.
They are marching “under the banner” right now - every time they put on that uniform, in fact. Nobody forced them to be hencherproletariat - traitors and opressors to their own class - did they?
there was no treaty or surrender
You’re wrong about this. There was a formal surrender, and they taught us about the specific event in public middle school.
And something tells me theses nazis ain’t bright enough to get paperclipped.
Dude come on. Plenty of officials in West Germany after the war were Nazis. We took Nazis and used them in NASA. The US loves Nazis if they serve the ruling class or are the alternative to socialism.
We (Allies) never made peace with the Nazis.
The west made peace with nazis when they saved nazism by filling Germany’s post-war intelligence services with them. That, and the fact that the ruling elites in the west never gave up it’s admiration of them in the first place.
Exactly. Americans are always going on about how they need guns to defend themselves from tyranny.
You have tyranny marching on your streets. Just go and shoot them with your guns. What’s the issue?
- Those marching nazis are scum, but they are allowed to do it
- Tyranny: "cruel and oppressive government or rule. A group you don’t like marching is not tyranny
What’s the issue?
You don’t see any issue in allowing vigilante justice where civilians are free to murder people on the streets that have differing opinions from that of their own? Is this the world you want to live in? You think there’s any chance the outcome might be something different than what you hoped for?
Being nazi is “having a differing opinion”?
I doubt nazis have any opinions that differ from his.
It is when more than half the cops and 1/3 of the politicians share the same rancid and destructive ideal.
And we are forced to pretend they are normal people and let them speak at our schools and walk our streets.
Yes, unless you share that same opinion, then it’s just the same. Welcome to the world, some people suck and you might not agree with all of them. That doesn’t give you the power to be supreme leader over all of nature.
Opinion, world view, religion, sexuality, race …
This isn’t about just nazies. If one advocates for a world where common people are allowed to take justice into their own hands and just murder people perceived to be bad then that is a horribly violent world where nobody is safe. I would be making the exact same argument on a right wing forum where someone suggest we should just shoot the communists. That’s a horribly ignorant thing to say.
Pacifism didn’t win WW2, and it won’t win now. This “enlightened centrist” take is why this is happening again. Libs, socDems, demSocs, anarchists, Marxists and communists need to realize that fascism is here. It’s not going away with “talks.”
People here are literally advocating murdering others for thought crimes. They only need to hold a set of certain beliefs and that is a good enough justification to murder them. No, actually it’s even worse; people only need to think you hold a set of beliefs and that’s enough. One doesn’t need a PhD. to figure out how a society acting in that way will go sideways in a heartbeat.
Not thought crimes. Marching in the streets with literal swastikas on flags. Their “set of certain beliefs” killed 17 million people (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims) as part of their beliefs: and that’s without counting the deaths they caused by starting a war.
It’s not some clever gotcha to pretend this is a grey area. It’s not folks saying to go after GOP members, people in militias that are dogwhistling, or even the Proud Boys. It’s not folks that loudmouths on twitter are claiming are nazis. The issue here is literal fucking nazis. I actually have a PhD, and I consider it wise to chase literal goddamn nazis out of town with violence. Tolerating the most extreme intolerance is not a path toward a good future.
Ask Heather Heyer if she thinks Nazism is just a thought crime?
Read about the Paradox of Tolerance before the leopards eat your face.
And one mustn’t forget an important detail: the authoritarian fascists started the fight, and their authoritarian communist allies joined in with them, until they too were betrayed.
Absolutism. Authoritarianism. Totalitarianism. Monarchism. Fascism. Syndicalism.
The state. The crown. The party. The god. The familia.
They want power over everything, forever. They only deserve utter annihilation; they’re a cancer upon mankind.
Don’t think I don’t recognize what you’re saying. Deal with your tankie problem after the fascism, not before. Hold the hate for later. The fascists will use our disagreements against us. Don’t let them. We need all hands on deck. If the United States and Britain can work together with tankies to defeat fascism, you can too.
They’re Nazis you prat.
It literally is just about literal nazis. Yes, they should shoot Nazis until Nazis go away again.
perceived to be bad
Nazis, dude. “Perceived,” my ass.
I’m not talking about just nazies.
Also, vigilante justice like this means there is no court process and investigation about wether said person actually is guilty of the crime they’re accused of. Innocent people will fall victim to it aswell. I’m sure there are more that one people in this thread thinking I’m a literal nazi aswell but I’m not and murdering me would mean murdering a person for “crime” they did not commit.
I’m not talking about just nazies.
Cool. What other groups are you talking about?
Yes, you fucking are.
Making death threats is already illegal in the US, i don’t see how waving nazi flags doesn’t fall under that.
The only good nazi is a dead nazi.
Either you clean them out now, or they take over.
History is VERY clear on this point.
We failed to clean them out 100 years ago. They’ve all but completely taken over at this point. November may be the last vote that counts for anything we get. And people are far too calm about it.
Is this the world you want to live in
if it’s only Nazis I’m completely fine with it. Shot those fucks.
They are Nazis. Vigilante justice is the reason for the 2nd amendment.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Unless I misunderstood you, what in the silly fuck are you talking about?
Maybe you misunderstood this is about Nazis.
Everyone I don’t agree with is a Nazi. Come up with a better reason for your argument.
They have an actual Nazi flag
They are literal Nazis you prat.
People have to step up and denounce this stuff publically, openly and loudly enough everywhere. And I don’t mean causing violence, attacking or assaulting anyone in any way. I mean more people should step up and just state how they do not accept this and pressure their government representatives to act and do something and say something to discourage individuals like this.
If people are silent, and don’t know about it then they are just the ignorant masses.
If they are silent but know that it is happening but still say nothing … then they are complicit, because their silence is an acceptance of movements like this.
American is slowly diving into a rabbit hole that the world already visited almost a century ago.
It’s easy to deal with now and it’s easy to stand up and tell everyone you don’t accept this.
The longer everyone stays silent and passive, the more their chances of saying anything evaporates.
When it goes on for too long and too far … it takes far more energy and activism to stop this ugly movements.
The last time it went too far … it took a world war and millions of dead everywhere in order to stop it … and even then, it wasn’t stopped, it was just merely controlled and brought down to a manageable level because it never really disappeared.
I liked when they just marched along side the nazis blaring circus music
I’m personally a fan of this one- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs4P1kKK-5k
“Why a tuba?”
“A calliope’s too heavy.”
Sprinkle in a little bit of “Loser” by Beck.
The Brits didn’t defeat Mosley and his fascism with denouncements.
In October 1937 in Liverpool, he was knocked unconscious by two stones thrown by crowd members after he delivered a fascist salute to 8,000 people from the top of a van in Walton.
The idiots in the news story are a small group of masked thugs that don’t even want to be identified. So they would be far easier to denounce with words and counter protest.
Mosley was an open political leader that plastered his name everywhere and led mass public rallies that had a sizeable following. He also had a lot of political support and funding by wealthy backers who believed in this movement. Even the royal family had deep and sympathetic connections to fascist and far right ideology. At the point in history at the height of his movement … there was not much else to do than to throw a stone at his face to stop him from going further.
Why not denounce them while throwing stones?
Then you would be no better than them
100 people denouncing 10 people is far more convincing than 1 person using violence against 10 opponents because those ten people now have the excuse to use more violence to promote their movement.
Start with education, awareness, promotion, public support and campaigning against these movements … violence only comes when there are no more options left and there is no longer anything else to lose.
Nice pontificating. I don’t disagree. I’m glad you still have that luxury. I’ll find a nice brick and save it for you if the shit hits the fan.
Edit: See ya in 7 months.
Nope, sorry.
Unless you somehow think we should have stormed the beaches at Normandy with care bare plushies and hallmark chocolate assortments.
Almost zero nazis can be deradicalized by thoughts and prayers, the only solution is to beat them bloody till they’re afraid to show their faces.
Fighting, war and death is a last resort when all hope and possibility is lost.
We’re not there yet so it’s still possible to convince others not to follow these movements and make those that do follow so uncomfortable and unwelcome that they can stay in the shadows where they belong.
It’s mostly our political leaders right now. If we allow leaders that allow this behaviour or leaders that even are part of this then we people have the power to either put them in power or remove them from power through elections.
And it’s not just political leaders either … it’s those with wealth and power that fund and support these movements as well as corporations that would not mind seeing fascist and anti democratic governments in place. The more we call out the instigators and supporters, the more uncomfortable they will be.
Because it also works the other way, the more people speak out, the more they see that there are many more people who share the view of anti Nazism and anti fascism. If we all just sit silently, we never know how many supporters are around us and it makes us feel like a minority.
So speak out in public and speak up with your political leaders.
Sure sure, I don’t want anyone anywhere to die of violence.
But there are people out there who do, and some of them are nazis, and there is a nonzero statistical chance that me or my loved ones will be caught in some form of mass shooting or domestic terrorist act.
So it is good to prepare, and point out the danger.
And speaking to our politicians does nothing, they know the threat of white nationalism more than any of us.
The only thing that changes the tragic trajectory of civil guerilla war we are chugging towards is for the right to publicly and viciously throw off the extremists that have taken over their party.
We cannot do that, no amount of talking to our politicians will give them the 2/3rds majority needed to impeach and convict all the fucknuggets complicit in jan6.
And I have literally no words to say to any repugnicunt to try and convince them to do it.
Either they do it on their own, or at some point we will get an authoritarian that isn’t as stupid as drumpfh.
Well said.
Principiis obsta et respice finem — ‘Resist the beginnings’ and ‘Consider the end.’
Principiis obsta et respice finem — ‘Resist the beginnings’ and ‘Consider the end.’
Thank you for sending me down this path of little research
They Thought They Were Free, by Milton Mayer (written in 1955)
As Mayer’s Nazi friend noted, “I do not see, even now [how we could have stopped it]. Many, many times since it all happened I have pondered that pair of great maxims, Principiis obsta and Finem respice - ‘Resist the beginnings’ and ‘consider the end.’ But one must foresee the end in order to resist, or even see, the beginnings. One must foresee the end clearly and certainly and how is this to be done, by ordinary men or even by extraordinary men?”
Some notes taken from this blog - https://www.thomhartmann.com/blog/2005/11/they-thought-they-were-free
Milton Mayer - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Mayer
They Thought They Were Free - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Thought_They_Were_Free
August Heckscher, the chief writer of editorials of the New York Herald Tribune, wrote that the book “suggests how easy it is for human beings in any society to fall prey to a dynamic political movement, provided their lives are sufficiently insecure, frustrated or empty.”[1] He stated that the book is simultaneously a discussion on ethics, on “how political tyranny is established”, and on issues in Germany and the “German mentality”.
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Thanks for sharing this little tidbit … Now I have to go a read the book for myself
I really should have mentioned that book is where I got that from, glad you were able to find it and for spreading awareness of it with your update.
Overall I enjoyed the book but it wasn’t what I was expecting going in based on that large block (mostly included on that blog link) about the slow boiling of fascism. Super depressing subject to be reading about not out of historical curiosity but increasing modern relevance :(
For anyone wondering, the group is the “Blood Tribe” led by Christopher Pohlhaus.
I can’t wait for Republicans to DENOUNCE them!
Any time now!
Republicans eventually WILL denounce these LITERAL Nazis!
Eventually!
I remember when they’d demand that American Muslims denounce Islamic terrorists, as if many didn’t already
Do as I say, blah blah blah snore
That is one of the scarier things I have seen in a while.
Wait what are we seeing here? What’s the antenna thing?
It’s a camera. They were doing laps for hours taking pictures of all the protestors.
This is a rally of Donald Trump supporters.
