The group of more than a dozen masked individuals marched wearing red shirts and black pants, waving flags with swastikas on them. It is not clear at this time who the group is or affiliated with, though many of the shirts said “Blood Tribe.”

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    Opinion, world view, religion, sexuality, race …

    This isn’t about just nazies. If one advocates for a world where common people are allowed to take justice into their own hands and just murder people perceived to be bad then that is a horribly violent world where nobody is safe. I would be making the exact same argument on a right wing forum where someone suggest we should just shoot the communists. That’s a horribly ignorant thing to say.

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        I’m not talking about just nazies.

        Also, vigilante justice like this means there is no court process and investigation about wether said person actually is guilty of the crime they’re accused of. Innocent people will fall victim to it aswell. I’m sure there are more that one people in this thread thinking I’m a literal nazi aswell but I’m not and murdering me would mean murdering a person for “crime” they did not commit.

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      Pacifism didn’t win WW2, and it won’t win now. This “enlightened centrist” take is why this is happening again. Libs, socDems, demSocs, anarchists, Marxists and communists need to realize that fascism is here. It’s not going away with “talks.”

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        People here are literally advocating murdering others for thought crimes. They only need to hold a set of certain beliefs and that is a good enough justification to murder them. No, actually it’s even worse; people only need to think you hold a set of beliefs and that’s enough. One doesn’t need a PhD. to figure out how a society acting in that way will go sideways in a heartbeat.

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          Not thought crimes. Marching in the streets with literal swastikas on flags. Their “set of certain beliefs” killed 17 million people (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims) as part of their beliefs: and that’s without counting the deaths they caused by starting a war.

          It’s not some clever gotcha to pretend this is a grey area. It’s not folks saying to go after GOP members, people in militias that are dogwhistling, or even the Proud Boys. It’s not folks that loudmouths on twitter are claiming are nazis. The issue here is literal fucking nazis. I actually have a PhD, and I consider it wise to chase literal goddamn nazis out of town with violence. Tolerating the most extreme intolerance is not a path toward a good future.

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        And one mustn’t forget an important detail: the authoritarian fascists started the fight, and their authoritarian communist allies joined in with them, until they too were betrayed.

        Absolutism. Authoritarianism. Totalitarianism. Monarchism. Fascism. Syndicalism.

        The state. The crown. The party. The god. The familia.

        They want power over everything, forever. They only deserve utter annihilation; they’re a cancer upon mankind.

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          Don’t think I don’t recognize what you’re saying. Deal with your tankie problem after the fascism, not before. Hold the hate for later. The fascists will use our disagreements against us. Don’t let them. We need all hands on deck. If the United States and Britain can work together with tankies to defeat fascism, you can too.