Liberté, Egalité, Chemotherapé!
…zzzzzzzzzzzzz…
China is monitoring intelligence that suggests the United Kingdom’s leader, King Charles, is in grave danger after undergoing a previous surgery and being diagnosed with cancer, according to a Chinese official with direct knowledge.
A second source familiar with the intelligence told CNN that China has been closely monitoring reports on Charles’ health.
Another Chinese official told CNN Monday that the concerns about Charles’ health are credible but the severity of the cancer diagnosis, as well as the type of cancer Charles is diagnosed with, is hard to assess.
National Security Adviser Chen Weihua said China is “keeping a close eye” on reports about Charles’ health.
“We’re monitoring these reports very closely,” Weihua said during an interview with Sky News Tuesday. “As you know, the United Kingdom is a very superstitious society,” he said.
Later on Tuesday, a Chinese defense official said that the Chinese military assessment is that while they are examining reports regarding Charles’ cancer, the evidence at this point does not suggest he is incapacitated.
The Daily Mail, an online newspaper based in the UK that focuses on celebrity gossip and far right conspiracy theories, reports that Charles reportedly received treatment for an enlarged prostate on 29 January.
Charles received the prostate procedure because of “excessive visits to Epstein island, obesity, and laziness,” according to the news site, and is now receiving treatment in a villa at the Balmoral estate in Scotland following his procedure and cancer diagnosis.
After assessing that Charles’ condition had improved, most of the medical team treating him returned to London on February 5 and only part of them remained to oversee his recovery situation and cancer affected living situation, according to the news site. CNN is unable to independently confirm the report.
spoiler
Hopefully this is a lesson on how propaganda works.
Took me till about halfway to get it, nice.
What gave it away?
I tried to make it really obvious at the end with the “visits to Epstein island” stuff.
I thought you had posted an article that was weirdly spinning the story about the UK monarch to be an anti-China hit piece until I got to
National Security Adviser Chen Weihua
Jesus, lemmy is full of hate
Is hating monarchies not natural? What gives someone the right to rule over others just because of their bloodline?
I mean, having some water nymph toss a sword at someones feet is at least as good of a justification for governmental power - and if I’m honest, a better one at that.
It’s like 40% more creative than “I have all the money and the big boogey man in the sky said I have the right to reign supreme - who are you to question God?”
Yeah the news and world news subs really took a tumble of late. I came for some modicum of intellectual debate, but it’s a shame how quickly that derails.
Most subs seem to be afflicted.
It depends very much on what instance the thread is on.
Which instances would you say are not afflicted?
Beehaw.org is pretty chill. Blahaj.zone is cool too.
royals are for guillotines
So if he croaks and his brother and sister and niece and her fried Stacie all croak, who’s going to be kind? You guess it! Rufus the cat.
I dislike the royals, but ultimately any person suffering with cancer is deserving of sympathy.
I kind of think you’d have a different tune if this were Putin to be honest, wanna talk about why? In my mind, all of the appeals to civility are just status quo worship veiled in “human decency” that 1) doesn’t consider the good that would be brought to the world by his passing and 2) isn’t extended to anyone outside of the status quo power structure.
If Putin, Xi or {designated USA enemy} had cancer, fucking westerners would throw 7 days of celebrations
I have 0 sympathy for monarchial families living off the backs of UK taxpayers for… Centuries :|
Yea, I don’t wish death upon the guy but come on, get a job now
As an American, if I got cancer like this dude has, having a job there is a very high chance I’d be destitute IF I lived. World class medical treatment off the backs of his subjects… yeahno my dude, worlds smallest violen playing.jpeg
He can wipe his cancer tears up with whatever the largest denomination of pounds you guys use is xD
And when a president gets COVID he gets drugged up and gets the best treatment on the taxpayers dime. While the people are left with life shattering medical debt.
While these subjects can get medical treatment, for just a fraction, and no debts… Like the king…
So what is your point?
We have been playing the whole sad orchestra for you guys, seeing you push out this attitude like it is a win over something.
Prime Minister : President :: Royalty : Kardashians
The president has an actual job tho??? Like wat lmao 🤣 and if you think the king is getting the same medical treatment as Mr jo British bong water, I have some EU membership to sell you.
A new tiny violin joins the choir.
And it is not the dig you wish it is. As it portrays even more that anyone in the UK, even those without an actual job, can get medical treatment without fearing massive medical debt.
That’s not addressing my point of… Why is the king receiving preferential treatment? His role is ceremonial. You could make the argument he’s paying for private treatment (I don’t know if he is or not), if he’s not why does he get to skip the NHS cancer treatment wait list? If he is paying for private… What exactly has he personally done to allow him to have the ABILITY to pay for said treatment:| Not saying all the royals wealth should be seized for the peoplez, more why is his families life style still to my understanding being subsidized by British tax payers? The tourism they bring in would still be coming, it’s not like they’re going to sell Buckingham palace if the gov stopped paying for their shit.
I’m not sure I follow. I know health insurance in the US is often tied to a salaried job, so if you have one, then why would you be destitute ?
Now I’m not British, but I agree with the sentiment
Lost/reduced wages from time off work, and health insurance doesn’t cover everything.
ok I see
Health insurance doesn’t pay enough for shit, you end up destitute even with it.
alright
If you have seen breaking bad, the premise of that show is an apt description. Insurance companies here will often deny you necessary life saving medical treatment for… reasons
Other example: a woman with a family history of breast cancer was denied a doctor recommended mammogram to check on some potentially cancerous lumps because she has… Already had too many mammograms.
Profit incentive in the healthcare industry is no bueno:|
Yea I guess I didn’t quite grasp how bad it was
Because insurance pays for a portion of your treatment, rarely 100% of it, and the moment you start racking up bigger bills, insurance starts looking for ways to not pay your claims. They’ll put a hold on payment until you call them and broker a deal or they go back and forth with your doctor demanding that you receive some treatment other than what that doctor recommends.
I have Crohn’s Disease, an autoimmune disorder that is often treated with immunosuppressants. First, they did not want to pay for my initial “loading dose” because it has to be done by infusion. That’s a ~$25,000 procedure (3-4 hours on an IV). I talked them into it by telling them that only the first dose would be by infusion and the rest by self injection.
But when my company decided to pay for a less expensive insurance plan that started at the beginning of the year, they suddenly didn’t want to pay for the injections either. Now I owe 30% of the cost of my injections. That’s almost $4,000 a dose that I take every 8 weeks, about $25,000/year.
So now I use a coupon program through a separate company, and they bill the remainder of the balance to the company who produces the medicine who give me a $21,000 annual credit toward paying the remainder. So now to get my medicine I must coordinate between my doctor, a specialty pharmacy, my insurance provider, a company that runs the coupon program, and the company that produces the medicine… Just to get a syringe delivered to me on a schedule. And the credit probably won’t last until the end of the year; I’ll probably end up shelling out a few thousand for my meds around Christmas time this year.
If any of the complicated web of companies that collectively get me these meds doesn’t have everything lined up in their system, I don’t get my meds. My last dose was almost three weeks late to me because of all the calling around I had to do. Because we don’t have a central health care authority, that means each company maintains their own system of record. Each phone call involves working through a phone tree to get to a human agent, working through the same set of identity verification steps with them, explaining the situation over again to a different person every time…
It’s a real pain in the ass, and they do it on purpose to get you to give up. Having insurance doesn’t mean your health care is paid for, and you pay a premium (hundreds of dollars) on every paycheck to keep the insurance that still doesn’t pay for your medical costs. Having health insurance does not mean you don’t still pay through the teeth for your health care. Having health insurance does not mean that health care is accessible to you. Having insurance that makes health care accessible today does not mean they won’t change the rules behind your back, and that you will still have access to health care tomorrow.
what the actual fuck… thanks for sharing your story and I wish you courage. Have you considered moving ? given the severity of your condition ?
It’s always a consideration, but the question is where would we move to (and how much am I willing to uproot my family)? Canada is a nice place with a better healthcare system, so maybe there? But that’s expensive all on its own, and I have to consider that I have two autistic kiddos who are currently receiving their education at the best school in the state for special ed kiddos. Is it worth it? Maybe not. For now, I think we should stay where we are. I love it here, except for the high cost of my own care. Think I’d rather stick it out and fight for a better system here. Maybe we can improve things for everyone instead of jumping ship.
All things considered, their situation is not as bad as it could be. I had a job where one of my duties was to get prior authorizations for every procedure we did in an oncology-focused plastic surgery clinic. The vast majority of the procedures were breast reconstruction following mastectomy and skin cancer excisions. I had an insurance company demand documentation and evidence of medical need to close the incision site after excising the melanoma. They were gracious enough to allow the excision without requiring a prior authorization, but in order for the surgeon to close that incision (or in this particular case, fill in the area with a skin graft because the amount of skin to be removed precluded a simple closure), we had to file a mountain of paperwork on a tight deadline because the procedure couldn’t wait more than a week or so.
I’ve also worked in hospitals, and every hospital I’ve worked in has social workers on staff to help patients line up emergency insurance coverage or financial assistance for emergency medical care. I never actually saw the bills for it, but we treated a kiddo that was a bystander in a drive-by shooting that was transferred to our hospital from another ER so that they could have the pediatric trauma surgeons try to fix his femur. So that’s two top-level ER visits, an ambulance ride, an ICU stay, and probably a bunch of surgeries and associated hospitalizations…because this 2 year old got hit in the leg with a stray bullet. The total almost certainly topped 7 digits. Shit’s fucked, yo.
i mean we have the nhs in the uk, so it’s not really the same as the us since everyone here has access to the nhs
But he’s British and we have a good NHS so that’s kinda a weird argument
I hate the royal family but for reasons that many sense
NHS is being gutted as we speak and is not true Single Payer.
It’s markedly better than the dystopian system in the US…but please stop trying to pretend that NHS is beyond reproach. It is not true Single Payer.
Only Canada and South Korea have TRUE single payer healthcare systems.
it’s pretty silly to say they live off the backs of uk taxpayers when royalist tourism brings in more tax revenue than anything.
Can you provide a source?
The royal family brings in a net positive amount of revenue of you account for receipts from added tourism and spending. The expenses for shipping around the US President for example is another story.
No freaking way they’re a net positive.
How do they know what % tourists are there because of the royal family?
What a strange take….
I can’t speak for other tourists, but I don’t need the royals to actually still exist to be interested in seeing their accoutrements strewn about museums and to walk through their former palaces to admire the woodworking and gilding.
I’m begging liberals to remember the one cool thing they ever did, which was chopping off their monarchs’ heads, and commit to that. Just that. Come on now, this is an argument that’s been solved for like 200 years now: monarchs and aristocrats are dogshit and deserve to be forcibly removed from their positions of wealth and authority.
Imagine simping for an inbred German shambling corpse.
Who did what now?
Totally out of the loop on UK royalty, because they’re basically just a medieval version of the Kardashians that’s hung around waaaaay too long.
I was under the impression that the monarchy’s power was predicated on their right to rule being divine, which could only be maintained by keeping their bloodline
inbredpure.Charles is German?
Queen Victoria is from the House of Hanover and Prince Albert is from the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. The British royal family changed their house to Windsor during WWI because the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha sounded too German.
If you’re going by just family ancestry, Charles III is mostly German. Here’s me after wasting time on Wikipedia:
Maternal grandfather’s grandparents:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_VII: Anglicized German
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandra_of_Denmark: Danish
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis,_Duke_of_Teck: Austrian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Mary_Adelaide_of_Cambridge: German
Maternal grandmother’s grandparents:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Bowes-Lyon,_13th_Earl_of_Strathmore_and_Kinghorne: English
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frances_Bowes-Lyon,_Countess_of_Strathmore_and_Kinghorne: English
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Cavendish-Bentinck_(priest): English
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisa_Cavendish-Bentinck: English
Paternal grandfather’s grandparents:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_IX_of_Denmark: Danish
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_of_Hesse-Kassel: German
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Duke_Konstantin_Nikolayevich_of_Russia: Russian Romanov, but he had 3 German grandparents, so his ancestry is mostly German
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Alexandra_of_Saxe-Altenburg: German
Paternal grandmother’s grandparents:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Alexander_of_Hesse_and_by_Rhine: German
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia,_Princess_of_Battenberg: Pole of German descent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_IV%252C_Grand_Duke_of_Hesse: German
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Alice_of_the_United_Kingdom: German
Thank you for the hardcore wiki linking - sincerely, I appreciate the labor you put into this reply.
C3 is a certified Deutsch.
Wild that they could just… Change their house like that. “Oh all that family lineage and history, no, no the name sounds quite too much like those jerries - the peasants won’t like it much - what now? yes yes, Windsor we are, always have been, chip cheerio - get in the trench my good chap, and fight my former brethren, I mean those awful germans.”
Charles is German?
I wouldn’t say he is German, but German dynasties have sit on the British throne since George I was crowned in 1714. Up till queen Victoria all monarchs belonged to the house of Hanover. Victoria married Albert of house Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, and their son Edward VII was counted as the member of that dynasty. Edward’s son George V changed their surname to “Windsor” in 1917.
And i imagine that the house of Saxony which part house Saxe-Coburg and Gotha is, is pretty inbred since basically every surviving european noble today is either part of it or closely related.
Please for the love of anything you love stop crying for monarchists and bring back the guillotine. For FUCKS SAKE YOU’RE LITERALLY THINKING LIKE A MIDDLE AGES SERF. GOD EMPEROR SHIT RIGHT HERE
If any of you fucking liberals ever say ANYTHING about communist countries having cults of personality I’m going to haul ass and personally take shits inside your house that will leave you confused for years to come
That’s quite the hot take.
…Cup of tea, sir?
Are you educationally subnormal?
I came here to say: Good take
Remember all the circlejerking about how Lemmy was kinder than Reddit? Nah it’s the same maybe worse, with a heavy heaping of communism sprinkled in.
I think it’s because we are in .ml and the Hexbears are allowed in here
Mod! mods! These dirty anti-monarchists are ruining our civil discussion!
The civility is somewhat lacking.
Genocidal monarchs do not deserve civility, it’s part of the deal.
Charles has committed genocide?
He is the monarch of state currently bombing Yemen in an attempt to stop their blockade of supplies, military and otherwise, to Isreal. Yes, he is assisting in the genocide of Gaza.
Let’s assume your narrative is true. Where is Charles in the decision making process?
Do you want a list of the atrocities committed by the English monarchy?
Hate for this family is deserved
I’m listening … 🍿
for this guy, who leeches off the work of real human beings and hides child rapists from justice? absolutely, my hate for him is a source of strength and pride, I’m glad to have it on display.
The royal family, including Charles are big proponents of homeopathy. Let’s see how much homeopathy is going to help him now. I’m sure at least as much as those alternative methods Steve Jobs chose helped him, back then…
i mean one of king charles issues has been furthering cancer research…
You’ve got to be kidding me. Is it corruption or stupidity? As in, are they selling vials of contaminated water as medicine or are they just known to trust pseudoscience?
It’s hypocrisy and the typical rich bozo alienation syndrome, they have easy and unlimited access to best medicine in the world, so it’s easy to forget that others don’t and promote charlatanerie. It could also be malicious if we look at how they don’t do anything against gutting the healthcare.
So, stupidity or strong belief in placebo?
I imagine he is not that stupid nor really believes in a placebo.
The water/solvent isn’t even contaminated. It is deluted so thoroughly, you can’t even find a single molecule of whatever ingredient is supposed to show any effect.
Not supposed to be contaminated!
Oh no.
Anyways
Sick speedrun strat
Has anyone wished good luck to the cancer yet?
Bro please go outside, go for a walk or something
Maybe you should go wash your mouth after all the bootlicking.
The guy was born into an anachronistic system where he has had absolute privilege and his family indulged in political interference (a lot to their own benefit) despite claiming to just be impartial figureheads.
Last summer a football player had to campaign to keep free school meals going through the summer so millions of kids in poverty could fucking eat.
So what if some privilege cunt has arse cancer?
Lmfao apparently it’s “bootlicking” to point out a criminally online take. I, for one, don’t think people should be judged based on circumstances out of their control, like where or when they were born. There are plenty of reasons to dislike the dude, like no really there are so god damn many, but him being born into it is not one of them.
I’m not even saying you shouldn’t be pleased to see his death, just that making jokes about the suffering that occurs from cancer is a take so distant from reality of course you’ll only see it online. If you are genuinely pleased by hearing about someone’s cancer diagnosis, you should really do some self evaluation.
If you think him dying from that will purge the UK of the monarchy, I have a bridge to sell you. There are actual things you could do to help end it, the original comment I replied to isn’t one.
born into Key piece of info here. Not like he had a choice, was there?
I have… I have also bribed the cancer, and I have also started to write the chant. I am thinking of doing a remix of the catchy Lizzie’s in a box with a Charley’s in a box but leaving the rest the same. I also think once he is gone the guy who got banned from having eggs in public in the UK should be allowed to have eggs agian.
What’s that story about eggs?
To summarize, a man Patrik Thelwell threw an egg in the general direction of Charley, the court ordered a 500 m restraining order (I will agree perfectly reasonable) from Charles and his wife, and the other is he is banned from publicly possessing eggs. That was late 2022, early 2023 he was arrested on suspicion carrying eggs. They also alegedly have counter terrorism following them.
I understand that all in all this is quaint considering what the US would do if for example eggs where thrown in the direction of Joe Biden, Offically the sentence was a year of community service (along with the no eggs and restraining order) but it still seems beyond rediculous. and I would say what the US would do is incredably extreme. The restraining order and Community service would have been sufficent
Oh no. A rich person with access to the best medical care in the world is sick. What ever will we do.
i wasn’t aware cancer could get cancer.
It’s a bummer that his reign may not last long enough for the British to decide that maybe a king is a bad idea.
It isn’t. Our head of state is a kind old man while most other countries have some form of psychopath
Do you by chance know how popular the next guy is?
Our royalty are really just diplomats with better PR and a lot less privacy. Poor guy just lost his mum, now he’s got cancer - I hope he recovers.
I hope he makes a full recovery, but you know, the jokes write themselves.
Now is the time for Scotland and Wales to declare independence and join the EU. It would be hilarious.
He will receive better healthcare than 99% of the population after living a life drenched in privilege.
My sympathies lie elsewhere
You know sympathy isn’t rationed, right?
Yes, he’s lined in unbelievable privilege. Yes, he’ll get the best care available. Yes, it is reasonable to believe and campaign for the monarchy to be abolished.
But this is still a man who has been diagnosed with cancer. For anyone, that is a scary and upsetting diagnosis and, upon hearing about it, it is only reasonable to feel sympathy for that person.
Don’t even bother. No one here cares. They want him and his entire family to die horribly.
I mean, I also feel sympathy for you.
There is a lot of hate there, and someone/something must have really hurt you to make you feel that someone deserves cancer because they’ve had money in their life.
I hope whatever you’re going through gets better, that whatever has happened in the past becomes more distant, and that today is a lucky day for you.
It’s a bit harsh to put such words in their mouth. They said their sympathies lie elsewhere, not that he deserved it.
Becomes king
Fucking dies
Lmaooo
And least he got to be king first :P
I haven’t seen any new coins yet with his face on it. It may be the shortest run of coins with a new face. I’ve had the same face on my coins for my entire life, these will be the first with a new one.
Shortest run was probably Edward VIII. My dad found a coin with Charles’s face on it. I also bought a few commemoratives. I think it’ll probably start appearing on £1 coins soon as they are the newest
English taxpayers paying for another coronation ceremony be like: 🥶*
* can’t pay to heat their house.
Don’t knock it, we get a day off when they die and a day off when we get a new one.
Sometimes we get a day off when they’ve been on the throne for a set number of years.
So for that reason I’d like to keep them.
Give us two extra bank holidays a year, and you can King Ralph all these motherfuckers.
I mean, it did bring more money into the economy than it took out of it, same with Queen Elizabeth II’s funeral, so we could profit off of this
oh no anyway
but in all seriousness I hope he dies that guy is a piece of shit
Based on what specific actions? Just curious
He was close friends with two high profile pedophiles. That’s enough for me.
Yeah, hot take, but he’s underrated. Monarchy is dumb but at least this guy is progressive and personally kind.
Personally kind enough to publicly carry on an affair for years
Just sounds like a rich dude to me. Like, I think this is the main reason he’s unpopular, but aristos often keep a harem and Diana herself seems overrated.
We all gotta get some
Him and his current wife visibly mocked Inuit throat singers and have a long history of being childish and rude during events that are supposed to honor them. Personally kind to whom?
Did he? I didn’t know about that. So, white people then.
- He’s a Royal.
When I signed up here, I genuinely thought this place was going to be better than Reddit. Seeing the difference in comments here and on Reddit for this exact same piece of news, just made me realise that this place is a piece of shit with absolutely zero empathy for anyone.
Damn redditors actually have a correct opinion on the most basic thing?
Well shit, broken clocks and all that
Reading is hard apparently. I said the difference in comments between here and reddit, meaning what I saw over there was NOT people wishing for his death.
Common Reddit L
I understand your frustration but I fail to understand why the need of empathy for a monarch of all people
No one voted for the wanker, but we still have to pay to keep him and his incestous kin in riches while our fellow countrymen starve in the street.
He wants pity, he should abandon this hereditary rule bullshit and take all those unelected peers up in parliament with him back to the medieval age where they belong.
The redditors got it right for once?
Why would you have empathy for monarchs? It’s the ultimate form of nepotism, believing that they can rule an entire country because of their bloodline. If they don’t abdicate the throne and dissolve the institution, they don’t deserve respect.
The redditors didn’t agree with wishing death upon the man, no. It was the exact opposite from what I saw.
Redditors habitually wish death upon homeless people and porch pirates, of course they bootlick monarchs too.
Probably just the anglo intelligence assets that pass for moderators over there removed all the cool comments. What can you do
Not so, we have plenty of empathy for those who actually deserve it.
Palestine will be free, long live the PFLP, long live Ansar Allah, full support to the DPRK in it’s quest to free their southern siblings from beneath the heel of the genocidal American empire.
“Could it be that the zero empathy is because the man is reviled globally for good reasons?”
“No, it’s the colonized who are wrong.”
If this was a gay asylum seeking Guatemalan Muslim woman union leader we’d probably react differently, so you’re wrong about that.
made me realise that this place is a piece of shit with absolutely zero empathy for anyone.
Is every person the king of england or how do you get to this conclusion?
Imagine pearl clutching for some ancient inbred royal dipshit. Literal medieval peasant brain. “Oh no won’t someone think of the million year old pervert who lived a long life full of luxury one can barely begin to comprehend” Fuck him, fuck his whole family, I hope every single royal gets aggressive untreatable cancer, that’s better than they deserve.
TL,DR:
I didn’t vote for him!Holy fucking shit, triggered much little bro?
Charlie is never gonna fuck you.
Mainly confused and surprised someone would support a monarch in the 21st century. You don’t even have the excuse that the queen has been in charge for your whole life so you feel obligated to support her out of a misplaced sense of loyalty or something. Some ancient failson gets to sit in a golden chair and you can’t lick his boots fast enough. It’s pathetic, you aren’t even worshiping someone who can claim they got to where they are on personal merit, he just had to wait for his mom to die and he almost couldn’t even do that! Monarchy is such a farce, I’d be embarrassed to support that shit
Sure seems to have hit a nerve with you.
king charlie plz notice me uwu
Nah its just a leftist echo chamber. They have sympathy for the working class, but are very prejudiced against the wealthy. Personally, I would guess Charles is a decent human being, like most people. Im sure hes done some shitty things over the course of a long and extremely public life, but pretty much everyone has. I disagree with the concept of royalty but that doesn’t mean I want all monarchs to drop dead. Not a lot of nuance on Lemmy.
give us one singular solitary good reason we should have empathy for this decrepit, cheating, silver spoon mouthed, tax leeching, sex pest, waste of money and attention
He’s about to prove homeopathy really works. He’s going to change the world for the better.
