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Prosecutors highlighted “about $10,000 — $8,000 in U.S. dollars and then $2,000 in foreign currency that was found on his person,” CNN correspondent Danny Freeman said following the court hearing.
“Also they said that he had a Faraday bag,” which blocks cell signals, a move that prosecutors alleged marked “an indication of criminal sophistication and reason they should hold him on bail,” Freeman continued.
After prosecutors made the claims, Mangione said he would like to “correct two things.”
“I don’t know where any of that money came from — I’m not sure if it was planted. And also, that bag was waterproof, so I don’t know about criminal sophistication,” the suspect said in a statement that suggested police framed him.
I am not sure prosecution can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he’s the guy. Some of this evidence seems flimsy or circumstantial, but I don’t know the whole picture.
Authorities are desperately trying to make an example of someone, anyone with a motive. Turns out more than half the country has one.
That’s the fastest way to get your courthouse blown up
the way they portray him and the tone of the whole thing is just so fucking slimy
“Do you realize how much money the wealthy are losing right now?”
“OMG how could a person born into wealth that is clearly incredibly intelligent, ever think about doing something like this? There are better ways to slowly let millions of people die over denied coverage and ignore it. How could he.”
This whole thing is sooo fucking smelly. So, so very smelly
They can’t have us realize its that easy to take our country back from the corporations that own it or their entire power structure and caste society comes crashing down.
UnitedHealth Group has lost $45 billion in value since CEO Killing
They can call us inhumane but they’re the ones who got us thinking of human lives in dollar values
“Do you realize how much the wealthy are losing right now?”
Clearly, not nearly enough.
“Hey! This guy doesn’t worship the Dollar! Slander him!”
They’re now also blaming Among Us for training him into an assassin, apparently.
Of this is true… Damn. Two thoughts come to mind when reading this.
- Rockstar Games has done so little with GTA for such a long time it is no longer the default ‘turn kids into criminals’-simulator.
- I am fucking old.
Remember when Jack Thompson was relevant? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
If you dont remember shooting lines of Elvis impersonators with an above head view and bullets that projectiles slowly across the screen, you’re not that old
All those kids that started playing GTA too young are now grown and taking it out on society because they don’t have a new GTA to work through their urges in.
I bet he knows the hacker 4chan too
smh the sus guy strikes again, this time out of retirement
A game with “500+ M downloads” on google play, plus like a dozen other platforms it’s on.
If 0.001% of among us players became CEO assassins, I don’t think we’d have any CEOs left.
LOL “quick, do the ‘it was video games!’ distraction “
So thin and weak
Dont post pictures of headliness. Post links to the articles.
I mean those weren’t screenshots of headlines, they were a significant portion of the articles. At the time though it was just coming from CNN’s live coverage page, which I tried to link to above
The reason you need to give links isn’t because its not showing all the text. Its to prevent misinformation and to let people who are blind be able to read the article.
Sure, agreed, I posted screenshots on the fly as I saw the info. That being said is it was a “live feed” page and information was being changed on the fly with a single URL
I’m the one who killed the dude actually. Remember? You were there. ;)
No, I’m Luigi.
No, this is Patrick.
Wait
I mean I am Spartacus
Wait
And my axe!
hold on
Hodor hodor hodor
Yarp
I’m Batman?
Hodor? Hodor? Hold-uhdoor?
No, I’m Luigi!
No itsa me, Luigi.
Number one!
Go Weegee! Go Weegee! Oh yeah! Oh yeah!
Wahhooooooooo
Ah shaddap you face.
Wassa matta you?
I’m that baby daddy
It-a-was-a-me, Mario!
I broke the dam.
Ryan started the fire.
So I wore a hoodie and wore a mask. I also smiled once on CCTV. Am I the secret assassin?
Secret assassin of my heart, baby.
Ass assassin
❤️
🤌
Everyone should change their names on all their social medias to Luigi Mangione
Everyone should walk around with Luigi Mangione face masks.
Shut about about should and just fucking do it, Luigi Mangione.
Sincerely,
Luigi Mangione
They’ll find 12 of the whitest old women to ever exist and hammer this guy, I can just feel it. The justice system exists for the rich and whoever did this fucked with one of their own.
My Nostradamus prediction of the day is that you are right. They will all miraculously had a great time with the private healthcare syndicates.
Turns out more than half the country has one.
Turns out your new president kinda wants to put that half in shackles, too.
The more they keep fuxking with the facts, the more this makes sense.
I just hope tomorrow a video alibi comes out of him jerking off on camera in Philly at 7am that Wednesday
The whole character will crumble and the working class will see what they really do to us.
Jerking off in front of a street camera at 7am on a Wednesday does sound like a Philly activity.
“The Gang Cranks One Out”
“The gang executes a CEO”
Remind me to backdate an OnlyFans broadcast as an alaby for my next crime. This is great, thanks
They don’t need to plant money. The physical evidence is more than enough.
Seems pretty circumstantial to me so far.
They’ve got DNA, fingerprints and probably the gun. I wouldn’t call that circumstantial
That’s what they said… Do you believe everytbing government and media tells you now?
Well I don’t believe everything is a conspiracy
Ohh will pulling this old reliable…
Politics and accusations of conspiracy isnhow conversation is generally derailed online haja
That’s all circumstantial evidence.
But then again, circumstantial evidence simply means “not eyewitness evidence”. It does not mean “unreliable evidence”, and people are convicted all the time based on circumstantial evidence.
There were people on the street. He isn’t the first person found guilty and wearing a mask.
Sure, it’s possible someone present at the murder could identify him. But it’s not necessary. He wouldn’t be the first person found guilty based on video footage.
Sure, but the prosecution will probably use both.
They just want to make it look like he’s a flight risk so he is held without bail.
Nobody is going to give him bail. Murder charge.
What? People being charged with murder get bail all the time.
Here’s two examples, because I was searching for the second and misremembered his last name as “Perry” instead of “Penny”, but conveniently there was another person subjected to a murder charge who also had a bail set.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/02/us/austin-blm-protest-shooting-indictment/index.html
Those aren’t charges of Murder 1.
Neither is the charge for Mangione.
The charges haven’t been brought as of yet from NY. The paperwork is not done.
What, do you think the DA doesn’t know what charges they’ll file? Or that the judge in PA is making his judgment on bail based not on stated intentions, but charges that no one has even mentioned?
Aimt it amazing how this guy gets caught with a full evidence package for prosecution?
Where is the body camera footage of the arrest?
Hmmm
In due course.
Was that the rally cry at Uvalde, too? How anyone can rust the fucking cops after that display is beyond me.
Trust the process 🤡
“Also they said that he had a Faraday bag,” which blocks cell signals, a move that prosecutors alleged marked “an indication of criminal sophistication and reason they should hold him on bail,” Freeman continued.
Prosecutors, man. Acting like he had a fucking radio jammer or something.
Prosecutors are another cog in the wheel of the regime. They only care for one thing is slobbing up the pole.
I am sure this parasite thinks he is going to make a career off this prosecution.
Disgusting
There have been plenty of articles in popular media recommending Faraday bags for electronic devices. I have them for credit cards and car keys. It’s definitely not evidence of criminal intent.
Shit, any Subaru owner probably has an RFID bag for when they go car camping and don’t want to wake up to a dead battery.
Wait what, tell me more.
looks askance at Outback
$20 dollars can buy many peanuts.
The RF key fob very slowly drains the battery if you’re within 10-15 feet of the car.
All modern cars with key fobs react to the key fob, using up battery.
There is so much theft of cars happening because car manufacturers did fucking nothing to improve security. Now a guy with a laptop, and antenna, and radio software can clone your car keys and all they have to do is hang around enough to capture a few of the rolling code changes. They can do it from outside your house and through some obstructions too.
So yeah a Faraday cage of some sort for your car keys is just a good idea now. Guess that makes us all criminals.
I found another suspect!
There are several of us.
Dozens even
Interfering with corporate profits! How dare you, filthy plebe!
You blocking corporate, that’s illegal. They have the right to take all your information and sell it to the highest bidder
Right. Criminal sophistication is the tracking portal on your device, analyzing all of your information and the information of your contacts and turning into a robust identity infrastructure, from which B2B data buyers can can select a complete data profile which will allow them to make decisions about your banking costs, your employment eligibility, your healthcare options, and the quality of information you are able to access via the web. All while appearing as a cute step-counting app that gives lights up with a smiley face haptic when you reach your goal.
Just look at how americans react to chinese’s score system. Communist, evil, over stepping by the government… Walk into a car dealership and try to buy something. What is the first question asked? How will you finance? Let’s check your credit score.
The companies in the US just package the process better. Same tactic and outcomes. We have massive problems.
He had a waterproof wallet lol so spy
Prosecutors, man.
Mfs think he Gene Hackman from Enemy of the State.
Didn’t you know? Doing anything that interferes with corpos having full access to your profitable information means you’re a criminal.
A LOT of yesterday’s arrest is REALLY suspicious. Dude who could easily have fled the country (for a lot of reasons) and had done such a great job of covering his tracks is sitting in a mickey d’s with his murder weapon and a manifesto.
But… a lot of his social media history (which is not impossible to fake but…) kind of suggests he was very mentally unwell. Which… uh doy? And he is mostly focused on the money (super easy to plant) and the “faraday bag”.
As for the faraday bag? A LOT of dry bags (an internal bag you put electronics and valuables into if you are going to hike in the rain or go rafting/boating) have a metal mesh. Because they need to withstand abrasians either from being near other gear (you would be shocked how much jagged metal is in a backpack when you go on a proper alpine overnight) or just being able to survive falling overboard and bouncing on the end of a rope in rapids. And guess what a metal mesh does?
So he presumably got a dry bag of some form to stash his personal shit in while he stashed the second backpack. And I know plenty of hikers and climbers who learn the fun way that the phone they carried “in case someone needs to get a hold of me” had zero signal the entire time it was protected from the rain.
Wait, people actually do that on accident? They aren’t just making sure their boss can’t call them?
You know the funny thing about these “ghost guns” is they are untraceable so you don’t know where they came from. The best way to pin them to someone is to “pin” them to that person. This can be through forensics or proximity. In this case the suspect just happens to have a gun whose origins are unknown. Very convenient.
💯
Why would someone this meticulous keep the gun that’s could have been ditched? Write out a memefesto like two hours before being caught? Wear the same clothes that could’ve also been directed or burned? This feels like a patsy.
Fall guy, planted by the mob to give the NYPD credit that they aren’t just a bunch of guys with big bellies keystone copping around, probably they have a deal with a mob boss to not bust their child exploitation ring if they have them some dude who can sit in prison
Everyone keeps calling him meticulous and I’m just curious what you found meticulous about it.
His getaway sure was and dropping a bag off that had monopoly money seems more well thought out than “have gun and no change clothes”
I suppose if you think running across the street, riding an e-bike for awhile, and then ditching it in a park is meticulous then we just don’t share a definition of meticulous.
I still wonder if that was actual monopoly money or if they were just talking about Canadian dollars.
The way he fired off those shots was practiced.
Because, as many of us pointed out, he was never some super meticulous hitman. He exhibited basic knowledge of firearms and got his stalker on like the ceo what got got was a pretty girl who asked to borrow a pencil that one time in biology class. The rest was taking a bus and wearing a face mask most of the time. It was inevitable that he would be caught unless he fled the country.
Mostly this just highlighted how incompetent cops are. And… might be used to further efforts to just use computer vision and rudimentary “AI” to process security camera footage in the future.
As for why he would keep his gun on him? The manifesto kind of says it all (and, to my knowledge, Luigi has not disputed THAT aspect of it). He wanted to get caught. Probably after making it clear he could have escaped if he wanted to (because getting on a flight out of the US would have been trivial).
To be clear. If he were to have disputed the gun and manifesto I would VERY rapidly be on the side of "cops are planting shit yet again’. But the fact that he hasn’t (to my knowledge) while disputing other potentially planted or misinterpreted evidence puts the kibosh on that.
If he wanted to be caught he could’ve turned himself in though, make it big and public if he wanted that attention.
If he sees himself as a Robin Hood-type, it stands to reason that he’d see that someone gets the reward for submitting the tip when he got caught. A low-wage McDonald’s worker makes sense given what’s alleged about his world views.
Damn. Another Adjustment made, may he never stop Adjusting.
If he wanted to get caught, why would he say the evidence was planted?
He did not say “the” evidence was planted. He said “that” evidence was planted. As in a subset.
And, as I pointed out above, said evidence makes sense. The “faraday bag” is just an intentional misinterpretation. As for the foreign currency? People very much underestimate how much loose cash cops have due to civil forfeiture and it is a really easy way to argue that someone is a flight risk and should not be granted bail.
Maybe had more targets that he plans to “depose”? Maybe
Where is the body camera footage?
Until I see it, all of this shit fake news.
Luigi didn’t do shit. They are just trying to pin it on any Italian guy that fits their narrative
Sure he hates health insurance parasites so does 99% of US.
It ain’t a crime!
he hates health insurance parasites so does 99% of US.
That’s a very conservative estimate.
Statistically the 1% are benefiting from the insurance parasites.
Somebody got to own all them shares
Considerably less than that.
“The 1%” is, ironically, a way to protect the elites and keep us divided amongst ourselves. But that ignores the wealth inequality issues and how many people aren’t even “middle class”.
In plenty of states? Making low six figures is already enough to put you as a “one percenter” for your demographic. Especially if you have a partner who makes a similar amount of money. And that scales with cost of living. A couple years ago (during the pandemic) I saw a really good breakdown that basically showed “if you can afford to live on your own, you are probably at least a top 5% earner”
And those people are just as vulnerable to an illness that insurance doesn’t cover.
No. The people benefiting aren’t even the “1%”. It is a ridiculously small percentage of the population.
My wife and I live on my income (not amazingly but we make do in a suburban part of a lower aide of middle income state) and I’m less than half the 5% threshold for the lowest state.
Saying Mangione is a hero implies you’re convinced he’s the killer. Not great…
the original scene in the Sopranos is about Christopher Columbus, so…
Please don’t say fake news. You sound like a far right nutjob. We are better than that.
You can call out news as being fake without being right wing buddo. All mainstream media owned by Sinclair is fake. Anything in between has a narrative they’re trying to achieve. If it ain’t journalism, it’s a dead opinion.
95% of what is out is fake news… You can call it what you want.
Also this ain’t about politics. Both sides use the same tactic lol
But… a lot of his social media history (which is not impossible to fake but…) kind of suggests he was very mentally unwell.
What are you referring to here? I’m not scouring the internet for all the information I can find but everything I’ve seen so far paints the picture of a perfectly sane person who was fed up with a broken system. I see similar sentiments all over the internet literally every day.
Well he also played this game where you act as an assassin called Among Us…
Is there a decent thread on the facts somewhere? I am still trying to wrap my head around how they connected the subject of the shooting video to the subject of the crime stoppers picture. There are so many diffs it’s like a Mad Magazine bit.
Welcome to the US justice system, where the rules are made up and the facts don’t matter.
They definitely put way more effort into this shooting than any of the others that happened on the same day. Obviously the police are looking for a scapegoat
He hasn’t said he didn’t do it, at least that we have heard. He’s just saying that a lot of the evidence is incorrect. The money is a flight risk, so they can argue to hold without bail. The manifesto, if it’s a plant, is to make him look “crazy,” so people distance (haha, backfire). And the faraday nonsense is to suggest that an ankle monitor would be of no use, so also no bail.
It’s all about holding him at this point.
Are you suggesting that a simple faraday bag can neutralize an ankle monitor?
Im suggesting that they are suggesting. They don’t have to suggest reality, this is the justice system after all.
It can, insofar as it will make it beep due to lack of signal and will alert the authorities as to your last know position
Not really related but I find it funny that you need money to get bail, but if you have money to pay bail, then you are flight risk and don’t get the option.
Yeah, that’s a whole topic in itself lol. The justice system is not made for the people, it’s made to keep the people from overpowering the ruling class.
His lawyer said there is no evidence he is the shooter.
And it’s all evidence his lawyers can use in court.
If all the rumors are true that he is in a ton of pain because of a back injury, I’ll bet they go with not guilty by reason of insanity. Pain makes you crazy.
He just needs some therapy. ❤️
Denied due to pre-existing conditions…
Would he end up institutionalized? Like, realistically, what would happen to him?
I’m sure they would send him to a few years in a medical facility. We will see if they want to make an example out of him. But I think that tactic would backfire
The murdered was sloppy though. The best way to murder someone and get away with it is to get elected POTUS. or be the son of a POTUS. Don’t go around committing crimes if you’re a normal citizen, silly.
This could be a scapegoat
But this could also be the perpetrator claiming he’s a scapegoat, which is probably the best way to get a Jury to acquit, just plant doubts.
I’m gonna say that this is probably the actual perpetrator and I guess he was planning on more targets, but got caught before he could do more “deposing”.
Why not ditch the first weapon then? He could have just gotten another gun. Why would he have kept ALL the evidence on his person 5 days later?
If this is actually the perpetrator, it’s possible he intended to get caught so that they dont find a scapegoat to accuse, but he merely wanted to delay his arrest in order to see the social media reactions before potentially going to prison.
If that’s the case, I’ll bet he was loving it. Has anyone ever captured the admiration of so many people with one act? Especially an act this violent?
Free Luigi.
Well OJ Simpson kinda did, well his crime was obviously much more morally wrong, but there are people cheering for him during his police chase, bur probably not as unanimous as with Luigi.
I think that’s notably different because nobody was cheering that Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman were killed, they were either cheering that the cops were “losing” the chase or because they thought he was innocent.
The consensus here is that The Adjustor definitely committed murder and we think that rocks.
Yes. Learn your history.
Yeah. If they were looking for someone to frame, NYPD could have just grabbed someone in NY. I don’t see how it makes sense for them to coordinate with PA police to frame a random guy out of state, especially that quickly. I doubt they’d have been able to fabricate the evidence that quickly, too.
Who’s to say that backpack only had a jacket and monopoly money in it? Pin the evidence
So they took evidence, and instead of analyzing it, sent it out of state to be planted on some random guy three days later? That seems even more unlikely.
Maybe, but in this case, as in many high-profile cases, the cops are determined to catch a guy, not necessarily the guy. Not that they care about this particular victim. They don’t. But they sure as hell don’t like looking like fools. If they felt that the real shooter had slipped away (after all, most murders do go unsolved these days) then they might be very inclined to find a patsy and frame him up.
If you can’t catch the guy, may as well ‘catch the guy’. Wouldn’t be the first time police tampered with evidence and it’d be downright embarassing and set off copycats to let this thing go cold so don’t put it past them
Unlikely if you have trust in the regime… Most people don’t have such trust.
No, it just doesn’t make sense. No trust required.
A Faraday cage (bag) is not sophisticated. WTF, one can build one from chicken wire.
All it takes is 1 jury member.
Well I’m certainly disappointed in his “criminal sophistication”.
This guy increasingly seems to be yet another right wing conspiracy theorist, he was into RFK Jr. Sorry to all you leftists who thought he was your hero, but it’s kinda seems like this is just the pizzagate shooter but more interested in the medical industry than the Clintons.
Our incoming president is a convicted felon and RAPIST who incited an insurrection and illegally attempted to overturn an election.
The rule of law doesn’t mean shit anymore.
I could give 2 fucks if this guy lies through his teeth to get off the hook. Go for it bro.
Criminal says they’re not guilty. Never heard that before
Sounds to me like they couldn’t catch the real shooter but they snared a doplerganger and figured they could frame him up fast based on his social media. It doesn’t make sense, his family are millionaires…the boomers might buy this crap, but anyone gen x or younger isn’t going to believe this for one minute.
