Summary
President Joe Biden’s economic achievements—lowering inflation, reducing gas prices, creating jobs, and boosting manufacturing—are largely unrecognized by the public, despite his successes.
His tenure saw landmark legislation like the Inflation Reduction Act, CHIPS Act, and major infrastructure investments.
However, Biden’s approval ratings remain low, attributed to inflation backlash, weak communication, and a media landscape prone to misinformation.
Democrats face a “propaganda problem” rather than a policy failure, with many voters likely to credit incoming President Trump for Biden’s accomplishments due to partisan messaging and social media dynamics.
No shit! Say it with me:
Conservatives control the media. Conservatives control the narrative. Reality does not reflect what people see.
When overnight the Joe Rogan interview with Trump had over 40 million views, the issue becomes clear.
biden getting flak over inflation is fucking hilarious.
The fed is literally irrelevant to the president, the president does not control inflation. Sure maybe his spending increased inflation. But the entire global economy was at a practical stand still. If you think getting a seized ICE working again is hard, try it with a global economy.
You can bitch all you want about inflation, but at the end of the day, nobody really knows what the right solution here was. We could’ve gone through another great depression event if not for global stimulus. And a few years of bad inflation and high costs will beat literally starving.
How can Democrats improve their communication strategies to counter misinformation?
Opinion: I Lost Because I Didn’t Do Anything Wrong and Have no Lessons to Learn
His adminstration may have not created them. But the neoliberal Democrats that he represents did going all the way back to Clinton.
He also only deployed half measures or dragged his feet all the way until the last minute.
It’s not even a propaganda problem, per se, because most people aren’t obsessively following the news and economic reports.
It’s how they feel about money.
That was the biggest single issue.
People looked at grocery store prices and said, this is nuts, I was paying half this just four years ago.
It doesn’t matter to them that global inflation skyrocketed along with inflation in the US, or that we’re doing better than the rest of the world right now. They want to see prices go down, even though that would be deflation, which is incredibly bad for an economy.
I hate to say it but , I told you so
I’m happy the left is being introspective for a change even though they are super late
Consider this.
A few weeks before the election Donald Trump and Elon Musk had a little circle jerk podcast interview with each other. They spent time talking about how anti-union they are and how much they hate worker’s rights. Then working class Americans went out in droves and voted for those two rich assholes who openly talked about wishing workers had less rights.
We made a guy who was the first president in U.S. history to stand on a picket line with striking workers step down because he was old. Then we hired another equally old rich guy who openly talks about wishing workers had less rights.
Americans. Are. Stupid.
Our situation isn’t going to get better any time soon. For those of us who aren’t boomers, we’re basically locked into a lifetime of economic hardship.
Well given that nobody is entitled to our votes I’m not sure if it makes sense to refer to withholding votes as a punishment.
Average american seems to be easily manipulated, especially if its about politics. No fact checking, just going with “gut” feeling.
Remember when he first got elected and people blamed covid on him as a joke (it happened before he was in office)
…then now people actually believe itRemember 8+y of “Thanks Obama” when the dude passed a healthcare act that got tens of millions affordable coverage?
When he first got into office he wasn’t responsible for what happened.
Now he’s been in office for four years and is responsible for what happened.
More people died of covid under his watch. The meager covid response we had was dismantled by him.
Not only is he responsible, he is more responsible. Not only was his covid policy bad, it was worse. And not by a little.
Were you not following the court’s impact on public health policy at all? Every sane state passed a mask mandate and other public health measures to combat COVID spread, then the courts (appointed by Republicans no less) crushed those efforts
Man, I thought I escaped comments this dumb when I left Reddit.
One guy told people they could try to cure COVID by shoving light bulbs up to their asses and inject disinfectants whilst their staff was eye rolling in the background.
All this whilst abusing people wearing masks
That dumbass also helped the anti vax movement
Trump was not only responsible for deaths in America, but also internationally. He also helped bring back mostly extinct diseases to the US and intentionally
He has every opportunity to attempt to control the virus but he chose instead to use it as an opportunity to gain more power
Hello moral and intellectual coward. You’ve just downvoted this comment without replying. I’m sorry you’re upset.
But it wasn’t me that manipulated the covid map by changing what it measured from “People getting infected” to “how many hospital beds are available” in order turn it blue. And neither was it Trump. It was Biden.
And it wasn’t me that took a meeting with the CEO of Delta Airlines and changed the quarantine period from what scientists said was nesssesary (14 days) to what monopoly capitalists said (5 days). And neither was it Trump. It was Biden.
I wasn’t the one who gutted unemployment insurance. I wasn’t the one who manufactured consent for the end of masking. I wasn’t the one who ended the state of emergency. And neither was it Trump. It was Biden.
Stop taking your anger out on me.
Sometimes I downvote something when I’m annoyed by the time I spent reading it, and I’m merely trying to signal to the good folks here that they can spend their time a better way. Not every dumb take deserves an actual reply. In fact almost none of them do. I just want to help people who value their time, as they have done for me. That is pretty much the purpose of the voting system. We’re helping each other out.
Historically, presidents take credit and the blame for things they didn’t do. Economic policy is one example. They actual economic changes take time to really be felt on main street. Very often those changes occur just before they take office or after they leave.
And despite presidential elections being the SB and WS all tied into one competition, the real path to controlling the government is through the house and senate. But THOSE elections aren’t as cool.
You understand that under that logic all the ‘good’ you want to attribute to Biden is actually because of Trump, right?
You can’t argue “economic effects lag behind,” and then claim Biden did good during his term.
Historically, President Trump has never taken blame for anything - only credit.
His 34% approval rating when he left office disagrees.
No, voters punished Biden for his inability to effectively communicate what he’s done to help them. This has been a consistent problem with the democrats, and with corporate media. Democrats need better spokespeople and better messaging.
They also need to stop catering to the ultra rich and moderate republicans because that shit turns off the base faster than crap messaging. There is no “liz cheney, nikki hayley” constituency as we saw last Tuesday.
One of his first acts as president was to deliberately double child poverty
Seeing a lot of silent downvotes for an objective fact recited in a value neutral manner.
That in itself says more than I could hope to about the topic of this thread
Okay, I’ll bite and take a few minutes to refute yet another of your seemingly patently false statements that you provide no evidence for.
Are you talking about the expanded child tax credit that the senate didn’t pass(the house did)? If so, that’s not on the president.
I downvoted you at almost every opportunity bc it seems like you’re just talking out of your ass, which isn’t helpful. If I missed something that you’re referring to for poverty, feel free to share and support your argument.
Are you talking about the expanded child tax credit that the senate didn’t pass(the house did)? If so, that’s not on the president.
It’s the unified government under one party of which the president is the head
You’re being a dishonest weasel
They didn’t promise unicorns like the Republicans did, and voters still got mad that only some people got unicorns.
Republicans have promised to eat all the unicorns.
He literally said he would cure cancer
Yeah, the U.S. pushed for global adoption of the HPV vaccination that literally vaccinates against that cancer. That’s what he was referring to. And if people get it instead of drinking horse dewormer, it’ll stop that cancer from spreading.
“Moonshot”
You’re right that Dems need better messaging and to stop catering to the ultra rich. At the same time, we can’t discount the propaganda messaging that the article mentions. Not being in their echo chambers means not being exposed to the bulk of it, and that is great. At the same time, it means being disconnected from what a lot of people are basing their opinions on.
For a few years, up until the start of this year, I had a job that required interacting with families in people’s homes. If I had a choice, I would’ve preferred to avoid the right-wingers… but gotta do what you gotta do.
Some households were pure poison: hate-driven parents who constantly belched up Fox news topics. These parents normally communicated with their kids through complaining and screaming. But if a kid made some quip about “Biden sucks,” they got a brief moment where their parents would actually laugh. The reinforcing power of that toxic dynamic cannot be understated.
It’s no wonder that a lot of kids in those circumstances end up eager to repeat the same crap their parents say. In the time that I worked that job, a lot of the commentary was Biden-centric, making him a convenient punching bag that even the smallest fists could reach (even if they had no idea what they were doing/saying.)
Dems have a lot of improvements to make, but it would take a lot more than “improved messaging” to overcome the sheer power of this propaganda culture.
thank goodness the democrats don’t have a media apparatus and what we all consume is news and truth instead of propaganda.
it’s so comforting to be in a community of people who are immune to propaganda
Joe Biden is the best president we’ve ever had and Kamala Harris ran a perfect campaign. That just doesn’t mean anything.
For how much you complain about people just downvoting instead of replying, you sure don’t like to interact in good faith once they do reply. Maybe learn how to have a serious discussion before demanding that people have serious discussions with you?
Who replied to me in this thread before you?
In what faith would you describe your response, wherein you made no statement, argument, or claim that has anything to do with anything besides you being upset with my tone?
You are exactly the type of person I’m speaking about and to. You should listen.
The right has unlimited money and resources when it comes to corporate media messaging. The media will not save us. The revolution will not be televised; it’s not in the papers, it’s on the walls.
Why “no”? You’re basically saying the same as the summary.
The article headline reads like voters don’t want the things Biden did. Which is a lie, and part of my gripe about messaging and the media. A better headline is “Voters don’t understand what Biden did for them, and that needs to change”.
True, headlines matter.
No, they’re basically saying the same as the summary.
Same shit as always, the (relative) left actually does make an attempt to keep its promises but no on hears about it because the right wing own 90% of the media.
the (relative) left actually does make an attempt to keep its promises
If you didn’t learn the lesson that this isn’t true in the last 4 years then all hope is lost
I swear for every positive story about something Biden did, there were 3 or 4 about Trump just being Trump: saying some outrageous lie, gaffes, and of course all the crimes. He’s sucked all the air out of the room for 10 years and now we’re going to have another 4. All news, positive or negative, is publicity.
99.9%
We need more political literacy in this country.
