Summary
President Joe Biden’s economic achievements—lowering inflation, reducing gas prices, creating jobs, and boosting manufacturing—are largely unrecognized by the public, despite his successes.
His tenure saw landmark legislation like the Inflation Reduction Act, CHIPS Act, and major infrastructure investments.
However, Biden’s approval ratings remain low, attributed to inflation backlash, weak communication, and a media landscape prone to misinformation.
Democrats face a “propaganda problem” rather than a policy failure, with many voters likely to credit incoming President Trump for Biden’s accomplishments due to partisan messaging and social media dynamics.
Effectively addressed? Like the housing crisis and the visibly homeless?
Well their next candidate, Newsom, certainly has done a lot in regards to the visibly homeless. The future looks bleak no matter how you slice it. I hope to God the neolibs can’t make that shithead stick as the anointed candidate.
Average american seems to be easily manipulated, especially if its about politics. No fact checking, just going with “gut” feeling.
Because Americans are some of the stupidest people in the world.
and like 90% of our media is owned or controlled by republicans.
That’s an understatement. Source: Live in America.
I hate to hear this myself but there’s a global rebuke against incumbents of all shapes and sizes literally everywhere, in response to inflation.
So by definition, everyone is stupid in countries that have rebounded well because they’re doing the same.
I’m sorry to have to upvote that.
I’m American and have to agree with it; it might be because I’m stupid though.
‘am I actually stupid?’
What, the country with all the resources but still ranks 36th in literacy and 54% of their adults can’t even read above a 6th grade level?
i need this information to start being treated as the act of oppression it is rather than the “americans dumb lol” framing i see even in leftist spaces.
americans, and disproportionately minority americans, are being intentionally refused education in the same way they are refused medical care—in service of cost cutting and privatization interests rather than public wellbeing and economic wellness.
Lee Atwater full interview told the real reason for the dumbing down of America. Two younger family members went through four years of prestigious private universities, and neither had ever read classic literature, let alone discuss main themes and philosophical implications, which is sad, since Shakespeare still addresses basic and timeless western human conditions, and I daresay the reach may be broader than that.
i think there’s a bit more to the story than that but sure haha
edit: looked him up and he was an adviser to reagan? ew.
Idk if this is the same guy, but iirc someone did an interview tell-all where they basically came clean and admitted to all the fucked up shit they helped their administration do.
So yeah, undoubtedly ew, but I’m guessing that’s what they’re talking about.
That’s why emojis are so popular.
As someone who turned off autocorrect fifteen years ago and cares about things like spelling, grammar, and compostion I can pretty confidently say that emojis have many valid uses. Text, especially quick text, is not very good at conveying subtle meaning in a clear way. Emojis though? They do amazingly, especially when it’s a face, because in normal conversations we have body language and even over the phone we can clearly convey a tone of voice. Body language is the emoji library of face-to-face communication.
TL;DR: emojis are popular because they’re highly effective.
¯\(ツ)/¯
But honestly, I admire the fact that you care about grammar, spelling, and such. This seems not very rare on Lemmy, but is otherwise a rare sight
And we thought the internet would solve or at least help this. Little did we know…
Hey man, we can post slurs online while taking a shit or look at porn any time. What else would we use the internet for?
Yep. I remember those days. I remember hearing Douglas Rushkoff [1] on a podcast or something about how he and others around his same age were seeing the dawn of the (privatized) Internet along with the flourishing of the rave scene, and so on and thought it had all this promise and it gave me such a huge amount of nostalgia.
Instead, we have things like Youtube influencers peddling some of the very worst things you’d want kids to watch and algorithms that push it to them.
[1] Jaron Lanier has written pretty well about some of the same aspects.
I feel like it’s simply widened the divide that was already present. There have always been people that care and people that don’t but now the people that care have the resources to do something about it and the people that don’t have easy access to that which reinforces their lack of caring.
Excellent summary of the internet’s potential for both help and harm. At this point, I’m not convinced the net result isn’t negative.
54%?? Yikes.
Stupid and proud of it.
By design. About a century ago, Rockefeller turned the public school system into a mindless factory worker production machine. Republicans have been reducing funding for decades since.
They only want high school graduates to be smart enough to run the machines. College tuition paywalls real education. As AI improves, the bar lowers further. Public schools will be continually defunded or converted to a voucher system in order to exclude even more citizens.
Republicans decided back in the late 70s and early 80s that the public was too educated (and too hard to control) so they decided to do something about it. 45y of slashed education funding and standards later here we are.
They only want high school graduates to be smart enough to run the machines.
Nothing new. Jim & Jesse even did a song about it years ago.
The company owned the houses And the company owned the grammar school You’ll never see an educated cotton mill man They figure you don’t need to learn Anything but how to earn
The money that you pay upon demand To the general store they own Or else they’ll take away your home And give it to some other homeless Cotton mill man
Can you elaborate on what Rockefeller did? Never heard that before
Rockefeller worked with the General Education Board to reshape education to be vocational. He also pushed for the duration of the school day to be extended to eight hours, for early exposure and adoption of the standard work day.
Very interesting. Surely we can trust our current crop of billionaires to do better for society!
The media that they choose to consume is the problem. It plays down the accomplishments of “the enemy” and plays up the hardships and failures like “rampant illegals” and constantly rising food prices. I blame “stupid Americans” less than I blame manipulative billionaires that control media consumption.
Fun fact, the average American public school education doesn’t include critical thinking skills in the language curriculum. You either get your introduction to this in AP English (if you’re a high scoring highschooler) or during your first year of college/university.
It’s mind blowing how many people can’t pick apart a given piece of media and think about what message it conveys and why it conveys it.
So yeah, Americans are ripe for manipulation.
That’s the result of the Republicans fucking over education in this country for the past 50 years.
I think not stressing critical thinking skills is not a bug, but a feature, of schools that were designed to crank out factory workers.
It’s sheer lunacy in today’s world, but it also happens to be a feature for the qon/Republican agenda.
It’s sheer lunacy in today’s world, but it also happens to be a feature for the qon/Republican agenda.
Redundant statements are redundant.
It’s not even a propaganda problem, per se, because most people aren’t obsessively following the news and economic reports.
It’s how they feel about money.
That was the biggest single issue.
People looked at grocery store prices and said, this is nuts, I was paying half this just four years ago.
It doesn’t matter to them that global inflation skyrocketed along with inflation in the US, or that we’re doing better than the rest of the world right now. They want to see prices go down, even though that would be deflation, which is incredibly bad for an economy.
Opinion: nobody cares wall street made more profits. Democrats are lying when they play their economy card. Real people lost purchasing power.
I completely agree. One of the things with the debate is I was like hey he should be pushing inflation right back in trumps face but jeez its also stupidity with folks. I mean we got a guy here saying he did nothing to fight price gouging.
People will never understand that if a president only gets 4 years, they are mainly working with the economy that the previous administration left them. So Trump’s shit policies become Biden’s failures. Biden’s decent policies become Trump’s wins. And if there is another election, all the ravages of these next four years will be blamed on the person who wins it.
yeah its just so hard for someone like me. every time I look at the inflation numbers and see it was april 2020 where it jumped. when I look at the fed interest rate numbers. its like how can people just not look at the numbers a little. no math. just date and whats larger or smaller.
The inflation reduction act was such a great achievement they didn’t even mention it by name in the campaign. All it did was make inflation worse now, and hopefully get some environmental benefits in the medium to long term. That’s not a winning message.
How did it make inflation worse now?
The Act is not generally believed to have reduced inflation in 2022 and 2023,[13][14]
Directly from Wikipedia
More directly it essentially printed 900 billion more dollars at a time when spending should decrease. There’s forecasted payback eventually, but no significant amount has happened yet, but the money is already gone.
I’d argue that its name was somewhat deceptive (like most congressional acts) but that the money largely went to projects that are beneficial for the country. Also, the next section on Wikipedia talks about how the overall deficit reduction would lower medium-term and long-term inflation. I think in general, when money is allocated to things like this, it takes a long time to payback since the money has to first be disbursed and then the projects completed for the results to actually be felt.
Beneficial on a 20 year timescale, arguing a benefit of future savings is economical fiction.
I mean it’s not great, but inflation did come way down right? As I said above it doesn’t make up for the inflation that already happened which makes our dollars worth so much less.
Yes inflation eventually came down, thanks largely to the Fed finally having interest rates. Even then it’s only come down to the high side of acceptable.
Marginally addressed. Like I get it. He’s better than Trump, but so is 50% of the average person I see outside. There is no effectively addressed, when we know the tested, studied, and actually implemented solutions.
For example: The ACA. Yes an improvement from what came before but a quarter baked bandaid on the bullet wound of a health care system. We know universal health care system is the answer. It’s a fact. The Democratic party never once made that a core part of their platform. Even if you know you won’t get everything when working in a democracy you still have to argue from a far left position so when you compromise it’s a stronger shift. The middle ground between universal health care coverage and 100% free market is the public option. Where Americans can decide between government coverage or private. But the ACA essentially forced everyone above the poverty line into private insurance held up by government subsidies.
Another example: instead of being 100% anti genicide the Democrat leadership landed on reducing the sizes of bombs given to Isreal?! What’s the middle ground between the 100% pro genicide party and the 75% genicide party? Ya ones better but if we land on a compromise of 87% genicide, did we really achieve anything?
Income inequality: Republicans 100% pro oligarchy Democratic party leadership is 75% pro oligarchy. The party of facts and science knows our economy with collapse every 20 to 30 years to keep the jinga Tower from crumbling to the foundation so what do they do? Bail out the companies that destroyed the economy in the first place and reset the lopsided tower. If we bail out a company why shouldn’t it also be nationalized?!
I can keep going on. Every issue the Democratic party’s solutions are little more than the queen saying, “let them eat cake.”
I live in a solid blue state and surround myself with far left people because we’ve realized, expecting the federal government to improve your life is a fools errand. We’re building our own bubble of compassion, science, and facts. Yes we vote blue but know the only change we can truly make starts by getting involved in our community and surrounding ourselves with those that will fight from a strong position and not a already right leaning position. If we’re going to die it’ll be with a Molotov cocktails in one hand and surround by those that actually care about each other. Opposed to at the feet of the oligarchy begging for crumbs.
There is no effectively addressed, when we know the tested, studied, and actually implemented solutions.
They handled the post-covid period better than virtually any other major nation in the world. With no inflation, with a low unemployment rate, without a recession. But people voted for a guy who aims to impose tariffs. You can’t make this shit up.
Yuppy, they got 1 out of 10000 issues right. But did they continue using that as a springboard to get other things right? Nope.
No inflation? Yes, but did they investigate companies that price gouged during the pandemic? Very little to none.
Low unemployment? But are those high quality jobs that would lift people out of poverty? Nope.
Recession? Not for those at the top. Us normal people have been in a 30 year recession.
Everyone knows that if the Democratic party was just as ravenous as Republicans but for left policies our country would be better off.
I don’t know what people expect from US presidents. Do they think they are watching Harry Potter or something? Do they expect him to wave his wand and solve all their problems? Go read about the other political branches and their roles. It’s ridiculous.
Uhhhhhh no. But people are mad that the democrats are starting on the 50 yard line and meeting the Republicans on their 25 yard line.
No one thinks their political wishes will be granted automatically if they win an election. The problem is One party is willing to do anything and everything in their power to achieve what their base wants, while the other won’t even give their base a seat at the table. It’s even more of a problem when the democrats demand loyalty and then cry when the people most likely to vote for them just stay home one election day. Look at all the popular policies that the democrats won’t even put on their platform. It’s crazy to think people are naive and dumb when they are going to lose regardless.
This is shaping up to be “why didn’t they do everything, everywhere, all at once”.
Your argument would actually make sense if the president had to do things by themselves and didn’t have access to millions of people and Trillions of dollars. Once again they never even put left ideals in their platform let alone tried to get any of them done. Grow up dude. Like I said no one is neive to think they’ll get everything they want when it comes to politics. But when your party is already standing on the middle line and meeting the other party on 3/4th of the way, it’s a problem.
It’s more that Congress passes laws, and legislation takes time to write. You have to figure out what each individual congressman will pass and write it out in excruciating detail.
Ya and what have the democrats accomplished over the past 30 to 50 years? It doesn’t matter which branch they are in. At every level and field the Democratic party has grossly under delivered. Even their most left and progressive policies have been water downed to the point that they are unrecognizable as left policies. What truly left policy has been signed into law at the federal level? I honestly can’t think of one.
Now you’re shifting gears, which we can address. Ok the Dems need all 3 of presidency, house of reps, and senate to pass pretty much anything. That’s how it works. And they’ve had all 3 for, drumroll please, 4 of the last 24 years. Or 6 of the last 32 years. Or 6 of the last 44 fucking years. And you wonder why progress is slow? It’s because Dems basically never have power. If they don’t have all 3 they are forced to reach across the aisle. If you want things to progress you need to give them overwhelming and consistent victories.
It’s funny you mention the ACA, since what we have now came from Republicans absolutely gutting the original ACA proposal which should surprise absolutely no one since the GOP is bought and paid for by insurance companies.
Yup the ACA was little more than a hand out to the insurance companies. The original version off set the government subsidies to insurance companies with a tax penalty to the uninsured or under insured. Republicans removed that so now insurance companies can double dip while the middle class has to essentially pay for their insurance twice. Once in deductibles and premiums, and another time in taxes to cover the insurance companies losses. The ACA privatizes the profits while subsidizing the losses.
Honestly Democrat are absolutely horrible at talking to people.
I’ll be the first to admit, Biden did actually do a lot for workers but just like the leader of the painters union said, y’all fucking suck at telling people that.
I mean look at the rail workers strike, Biden stopped the rail workers strike and didn’t address one of the biggest things they were looking for, just to be treated like humans and have sick leave.
There was lots of talk about “doing this for the best of the nation”, which okay I could get behind, sure they got a wage increase but I did as shit could understand why rank and file would feel betrayed when they were asking additional to be treated as humans that get sick.
What I didn’t hear him or anyone say to them directly, that he was still going to work with the unions afterwards to get sick leave in. Why would you not say that at the same time as you announce your blocking the strike? Cost you nothing to say you have their back.
So then months later, with Biden administration support finally got the workers PTO but no one really knew about it because the moment was gone and honestly union leadership also did a shit job of getting that word out too.
It’s not the only thing but it certainly is a big factor in things.
Biden and the Dems saved the teamsters’ pensions against the GOP’s best efforts and it didn’t even earn them an endorsement from the teamsters’ union.
This was highly publicized, especially if you yourself were in the union
Internal polling of Teamsters members showed:
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In an electronic poll conducted after the Republican National Convention, 59.6% of rank-and-file Teamsters favored endorsing Trump, while 34% supported Harris.
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A more recent poll indicated a similar trend, with Teamsters backing Trump 58% to 31%
Having the backs of labor and the working class amounted for jack shit in actual results for dems.
You know why? Because these teamsters spend two hours a day sitting in a car listening to right-wing radio jockeys telling them how Democrats are only interested in policing their language and getting them in trouble for flirting with women.
Hence, Democrats suck a propaganda.
They should field and finance their own radio jockeys and be flooding the airways with their own counter messages, but instead they’ve abandoned that terrain to the right and now are paying for it.
Conservative messaging wins propaganda battles because it’s simple. Democrats can’t use the same tactics, because they’ll be less effective no matter what. Preventing consolidation of media and monopolization of media would be more effective, since it’s a centrally coordinated effort. Or just preventing anybody from having enough money that they’d even have the ability to do that.
Something that piece of shit David Frum said on his Twitter once regarding the rightwing/leftwing media system was ‘the left is awash with talent but has no funding while thr right is awash with funding but has no talent’.
Kamala had a billion dollars. Progressives have a deep ecosystem of independent media that establishment Democrats undermine at every opportunity. Democrats were hand in hand with Republicans in pushing social media “reforms” that today promote media like FOX News as trustworthy over progressive media sources. The Democrats create their own weakness.
You know why? Because these teamsters spend two hours a day sitting in a car listening to right-wing radio jockeys telling them how Democrats are only interested in policing their language and getting them in trouble for flirting with women.
Bingo.
Or scrolling their feeds. Or swiping. Depending on the age. Every single Democrat leader needs to see that statistic, so they can stop whining about how policy was their problem.
Democrats are messaging like it’s 1950. And hot take, but the only thing that elected Biden was COVID-19, only because it wedged itself into people’s lives like absolutely nothing else can.
Having the backs of labor and the working class amounted for jack shit in actual results for dems.
But I was told that Dems lose because they don’t have the backs of labor and the working class, and that if they just fixed that, they’d win elections???
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I agree with you for the most part. That being said I have tried to explain this point to multiple people and they don’t care that the Biden admin got the rail workers what they asked for. They insist that stopping the strike means Biden was anti union full stop even after the IBEW put out releases thanking the Biden admin. they also said it was just propaganda. It’s just as much about people not wanting to listen.
They didn’t get what they wanted though. The points system still is in place that limits the ability to use leaves. The “sick leave” still required notice, so all it did was allow doctor visits to not take PTO, provided the worker could afford the points.
I can’t find a solid confirmation but it looks like as part of the law killing the strike and enacting the recommendations of the emergency board, the attendance rules creating points was vacated without further agreements from the unions. So from what I can tell, your statement is incorrect. I looked up the emergency board’s recommendations but I didn’t do a deep dive into the law to confirm. Link to the recommendations below.
https://nmb.gov/NMB_Application/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/PEB-250-Report-and-Recommendations.pdf
Workers were asking for 15 days of sick leave, Congress and Biden gave them 1 with the act that ended the strike. Later, the railroads continued negotiating with some of the unions and gave them four days of sick leave. People from the Biden administration were present for those conversations and take credit for that.
So, no, the Biden administration did not give the unions what they asked for, and yes they likely did do material harm to them by stopping that strike.
Yeah. It’s called negotiating. You start at a number higher than what you’d be happy with, expecting to meet somewhere in the middle.
When a third party swoops into a negotiation and steals your leverage it has a significant impact on what that middle ends up being
If they did nothing then why did the IBEW thank them for the effort? Yea they didn’t get everything they asked for, that’s how negotions work. The people that were effected thanked the Biden admin, why don’t you believe them?
https://www.ibew.org/media-center/Articles/23Daily/2306/230620_IBEWandPaid
Because placating the egos of the people in power make sense, same reason Zelensky congratulated Trump on winning
I got my numbers on sick days from here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_United_States_railroad_labor_dispute?wprov=sfla1
Yeah, hence why I say that union leadership has to do some work here too.
I’ve worked with the machinists union during a statewide right to work ballot initiative to overturn the legislatures recently passed right to work bill.
So much conversation about how “we have to strike out down!” But at the same breath talk about voting Republican. Well that’s what they did, killed right to work, elected more Republicans to the state legislature.
Cue shocked Pikachu face when the people they voted in immediately submitted a bill to enact right to work.
I mean what the fuck is union leadership doing at that point when you can’t get your own members to not fuck themselves over?
One angle that might explain the lack of media coverage on a win for the working class against the interest of capital owners is that the media itself, at least the mainstream slice of it, is owned by the capitalist class.
MSM will cover things if they think it’ll bring in more ratings. You see it with how many news outlets are treating the upcoming Trump administration. For Cons, they’re banking on a viewer base that’ll be more interested in Trump coverage. For Dems, they’re banking on a viewer base that’ll be more hateful and agree of Trump coverage.
So when you have wins for the working class that Biden’s administration directly helped with, and when you have a media industry that just won’t cover it out of their own self-interest, you have to wonder if the administration will spend Americans’ on advertising or just keep it and move on.
One might say that the best time to do that advertising is during an election campaign though. And that begs the question as to why Biden nor Harris brought this up in their campaigns.
Might it be that those groups are also subject to the capitalist class?
Biden and Co talked down to the working class like Obama did black men and kept insisting we are not financially struggling. We are doing well and there’s no reason to be concerned. He lied, we saw through the lie and his party lost
Lowering inflation doesn’t lower prices, and prices are what voters actually care about.
Prices won’t be going down under Trump either, though, so I’m not sure how much credit Trump will get.
His adminstration may have not created them. But the neoliberal Democrats that he represents did going all the way back to Clinton.
He also only deployed half measures or dragged his feet all the way until the last minute.
Same shit as always, the (relative) left actually does make an attempt to keep its promises but no on hears about it because the right wing own 90% of the media.
the (relative) left actually does make an attempt to keep its promises
If you didn’t learn the lesson that this isn’t true in the last 4 years then all hope is lost
I swear for every positive story about something Biden did, there were 3 or 4 about Trump just being Trump: saying some outrageous lie, gaffes, and of course all the crimes. He’s sucked all the air out of the room for 10 years and now we’re going to have another 4. All news, positive or negative, is publicity.
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This is not a messaging problem it’s a measurement problem. The metrics we use to gauge economic progress and/or health are not effective indicators of anyone’s experience but the wealthy. When Dems tell me wages have gone up so income inequality is getting better what they mean is that new jobs are on average offering slightly higher pay to new hires.
They don’t say that slightly higher pay is 5 cents an hour which is practically useless. They don’t acknowledge that this tiny wage increase is dwarfed by the impacts of inflation over the last 4 years. Worst of all, they don’t say that because this wage increase only applies to new hires, anyone working the same job for more than a couple of years hasn’t seen a wage increase at all, but that price gouging has definitely impacted them. That last one is important because it applies to a huge chunk of people.
This is just the way it works out with wages but basically everything these pundits are saying is great under Biden could be described the same way. They’re talking about averages which when applied to 330 million people produce numbers that sound significant, but when you look at almost any individual it doesn’t make a practical difference in their lives. Sure, you may have slowed the rate at which things are getting worse, but are you honestly surprised at this reaction? You’re telling people you solved their problems and they’re responding “no, you absolutely did not and fuck you for saying that”
Yeah this shit is insane. We fixed inflation! Great, that’s great, but where are our, meaning the working class, 25% raises to offset the inflation that already happened? I’ll be up for my second raise in three years in 6 months. It’s already promised to be 7% which will beat inflation (and I plan to fight for more), but I would need 25% to get my pay to be worth the same as it was three years ago before my first raise.
Absolutely, and to be clear, this does not imply that Trump has a good solution to this problem. He’ll probably make it significantly worse. But at least he’s talking about it in a way that resonates with people. Don’t tell me my problem is that I don’t understand my own financial situation. Show me how you plan to improve it in ways that I actually care about.
Yes and no. I agree they solved the problems, but there was no fixing high prices even if inflation rate was brought down.
It’s like when Kamala was asked “was there anything you’d do differently?” The problem was she actually answered the question. The administration made the right choices, so there was little different she would have done. She should have done the politician thing and answered adjacently how she’s going to solve high prices.
