Green politicians from across Europe on Friday called on U.S. Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein to withdraw from the race for the White House and endorse Democrat Kamala Harris instead.
“We are clear that Kamala Harris is the only candidate who can block Donald Trump and his anti-democratic, authoritarian policies from the White House,” Green parties from countries including Germany, France, Denmark, Italy, the Netherlands, Ireland, Estonia, Belgium, Spain, Poland and Ukraine said in a statement, which was shared with POLITICO ahead of publication
Too bad they just noticed she’s a stooge.
Too bad she’s a ruzzian shill and supports the whole of Europe being nuked by the orcs
As an foreigner, if I ever get to chose between fascism here and genocide in america, well, I hope you have a place to hide ahah. Coz I will not be arsed either.
Sheesh, you’re a bit late, folks. Besides, Stein is in the race specifically for the purpose of helping Trump win, so she wouldn’t listen to them anyway.
Too late. Ballots printed.
European Greens have always hated the US party. This may seem like politically aligned people asking a fellow traveler to stop but it’s not.
Stein should shove off to fucking Moscow.
If she didn’t her Votes wouldn’t go to Harris lol. If people don’t want to Vote Dem they aren’t going vote Dem. Harris has had all the time in the world to put effort into courting voters the same way she did Republicans. I plan on voting Third Party only for future elections. I want nothing to do with people who excuse genocide and link up with Dick Cheney.
It wouldn’t be this close if Harris just came out against the genocide in Gaza. Instead she has shunned Arab and Muslim voters.
I am in Pennsylvania and I am voting for Jill Stein. Everything I could have done to communicate my grievances I have tried, including meeting with my representative who just insulted me instead of even feigning humanitarian concern.
It wouldn’t be this close if Harris just came out against the genocide in Gaza
It’d be worse. Do you have any idea how much damage AIPAC would do? The majority of americans are siding with Israel. She’d get called a terrorist simp before she even finished her speech. It would be an unmitigated shit show.
I wish the american public was wiser, and recognizing how evil Israel is. But that’s not the world we live in.
It wouldn’t be this close if Harris just came out against the genocide in Gaza
You’re right. If she had done that, she would be losing and it wouldn’t even be close.
Why do you think she’d gain more voters than loose by changing her stance on Israel? There are clearly people out there who support Israel otherwise it wouldn’t even be up for debate. I haven’t seen anything indicating she’d pick up more voters by changing her stance (which is still better than Trumps).
I am in Pennsylvania
Press X to doubt.
I think from a third party point of view that makes no sense. It’s not for her to prop up the broken electoral system. Harris is essentially the lesser evil in this argument, but the real problem is the electoral system.
Arguably the “better” outcome for third parties is for Harris to win the popular vote and lose the election because of the stupid electoral college system. That may actually get Democrats more serious about electoral reform which would benefit everyone. They’ve already lost twice despite winning the popular vote (Gore and H Clinton). Yet they continue to support broken electoral systems across the country at national and state level as all they care about is Dem vs Rep. Not actual democracy.
The Democrats didn’t even have a proper primary contest in this election, they value democracy so little. They tried to forced Biden on the party and voters and it blew up spectacularly. The party needs a shake up and frankly losing may be better for them than Harris saving them from the party’s own disastrous mismanagement.
I’m no fan of trump, but Americas problems run far deeper and are far more systemic than one election.
and giving trump his seat back is only going to deepen them
If you’re an internet rando, and don’t understand the broken game theory behind FPTP, then you’re an idiot. It’s obvious!
If you’re a candidate, and don’t understand the broken game theory behind FPTP, then that’s fine, you’re not playing dumb or anything. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and go kick that football.
While the electoral college is problematic, it isn’t relevant in this regard. First past the post is the issue.
FPTP plus winner-take-all. WTA needs to go away at the same time FPTP does.
So voting for a hand puppet with no serious program, credentials, infrastructure to govern is better? Stein has no ambitions to make american do anything better, else she would be front and center actually doing something between election cycles… but she does not. If anything you have more risks, cause in the case she would magically win, who would become het cabinet? You have no clue who and what they stand for… And that should worry you … A lot.
The electoral system will be fixed if Trump wins. He will just dissolve it and end the election process. Voila! Reform!
🙄
She won’t.
Want to upvote your comment, but you’re at 69… Dilemma
It’s only a dilemma if you’re 12.
Of course she won’t. She is Putin’s puppet.
I never get tired of showing this photo.
meanwhile in the same universe. the cheney are as big of criminals as putin.
doesn’t bill clinton has photos with Epstein ? its not like she is hugging him like biden hugging netanyahu. maybe he was there to poison her ?
anyway people voting for her including me will write aoc rather than voting harris if there was no third option allowed. enough is enough.
Of course .ml is gonna say this shit.
I forgot to ask you!
These are the four options in Indiana. No write-ins because you have to declare yourself a write-in and no one did. Who should Hoosiers vote for?
vote for the candidate that best fulfills your expectations as a president. i am against voting just for the lesser evil. there has to be a minimum requirement for whats acceptable else we are begging this corrupt system to shit on us as much as they want. here most of us are struggling to make ends meet and they are giving billions to murder poor people in other countries. and don’t stop there. boycott all brands involved in lobbying or supporting genocide, boycott any candidates taking superpac funding. boycott msm peddling bullshit while ignoring the real issues.
Months and months of “don’t vote for Biden” and then “don’t vote for Harris” and then suddenly when the people like you who have been saying that are presented with the harsh reality that choices really are limited, are saying “vote for who you want.”
Amazing.
vote for the candidate that best fulfills your expectations as a president. i am against voting just for the lesser evil.
what part of it you don’t get ?
harsh reality of what ? that we have to vote just blue unconditionally ? cool live in this delusion, but those fed up with dnc impostering are only going to become more determined with this current toxic campaign. the only thing other than “trump this stein that” we get from them is launching video games or snl shithousery.
so again vote for the candidate that worthy of presidency else we are only lowering the bar each election and soon will have someone worse than trump forced on us by dnc.
Unfortunately, USA doesn’t have ranked choice voting. So voting for someone who doesn’t have a chance of winning is basically the same as throwing away your vote.
anyway people voting for her including me will write aoc rather than voting harris.
Oh boy, you’ll really be sticking it to The Man with that. You’re truly an important visionary, and everyone is totally taking you seriously.
What’s fun is that it’s literally impossible to write in AOC in Indiana because you have to declare yourself a write-in candidate here and she didn’t.
I had four options- Harris, Trump, RFK Jr. or the Libertarian.
And I keep asking people like this who I should have voted for and who other Hoosiers have voted for. The closest answer I’ve gotten from any of them was a sudden heel-turn to “vote for who you like, it doesn’t matter.”
Trump thanks you for your vote.
Whose talking about any of those people?
as big of criminals as putin
Hang on, let me just dig up their rap sheet on war crimes… oh, wait
Dick Cheney isn’t running for president.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/06/jill-stein-says-nothing-happened-at-her-dinner-with-putin/ https://www.newsweek.com/jill-stein-ties-vladimir-putin-explained-1842620 I’ll never get tired of posting this in response.
Of course she says nothing happened. It’s like a child getting caught with their hand in the cookie jar covered in crumbs, and they will insist they did nothing wrong. Never expect someone to be honest when it’s against their interests.
F to doubt what she says
No one is saying anything had to happen, but she was certainly invited there there for a reason.
Well, sure. I’m not saying that Russians didn’t have a nefarious reason to invite her there. It’s entirely possible and maybe even likely that they did it because they saw a third party candidate as a useful tool to sow some sort of election discord in the US. But that claim would be entirely different than the claim that Jill Stein did it because she’s an asset or that this was her idea or purpose for being there. I’m disputing the latter, not the former, because her attending a gala for RT is not evidence of collusion and this was the implication being made. I can find all sorts of pictures online of Hillary Clinton and other politicians having dinners with Trump or Putin, but that doesn’t mean the photos are evidence that they were in collusion with either of them.
I like how you are completely overlooking the fact that I never made any actual claim about her being a Russian asset.
You kept bringing up the asset thing.
This is what I wrote:
The asset part was a complete invention of yours.
Did you know Clinton was a Putin asset too?
You don’t get put at a dinner table in Moscow with Putin unless Putin has a good reason for wanting you there.
He doesn’t just sit down with random people and hope they have a good time.
Shit, and all this time I thought he just had a passion for entertaining!
That’s basically what this person seems to be suggesting. Like she just happened to be sitting there and Putin and all of his closest people were like, “let’s go see who this lady is and what she’s up to!”
You get that nothing had to happen at the dinner, right? That’s not how networking works.
Okay, then prove that something happened. I’m not the one implying she’s some sort of Russian asset with 0 evidence beyond a photo. That’s you.
I don’t have to prove anything happened. She was put at a dinner table with Putin in Moscow. Something that only happens if Putin finds you useful. He doesn’t sit at random tables and strike up conversations with whoever he finds.
You put the rest together.
Putin and his regime himself are US ideas. They sponsored fascists in the name of realpolitik and are now whining they are making fascist things. The brave mujhaideen of afghanistan all over again
Your evidence for Jill Stein being bribed by Putin in her sitting next to a German ambassador at a table, and Putin sitting down in a seat at the other side of the table?
The Democrat misinformation campaign is in full swing here.
You made the assertion, so the onus is on you to prove it.
It is ten years old so you are not exaggerating.
That would be against the entire purpose of her campaign.
Havent they pretty much admitted that shes running cause republicans have paid for her campaign, to try and split votes from democrats?
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“Why do you think I’m running? Isn’t this like telling me not to drink water to prevent hydration?” - Jill Stein probably
Maybe you should have been more vocal everytime your country did election interference to the rest of us lmao
a post I made earlier:
If Harris loses California, New York, Massachusetts, Maryland, Connecticut, Hawaii, Vermont, DC, or Maine-1 because of vote-splitting by Stein, it will be Harris’s fault. If you’re voting in these states, you might as well vote your heart.
The Green party isn’t a party worth anyone’s heart. It’s all a big grift funded by conservatives that only puts any effort into the scammy presidential run. I don’t want more of that, I want progressives that challenge moderate Democrats in safe seats to give people a real option to move left.
I’m in Hawaii, and we’re solid blue but last election the Greens had a whole of 2 candidates across the entire state. Some random party I’d never heard of had more candidates on the ballot. My state rep won with something like 2000 votes, no Green challenger in sight. If the Greens were a real party they’d jump on that opportunity. A little sweat and door knocking can pull off 2000 votes. Hell, we have Ed fucking Case in Congress. I’d kill to vote against him, but my only other option is a MAGA conspiracy theorist.
The GPUSA isn’t a real party.
wp:2020 United States presidential election in Hawaii#Results
Howard Gresham Hawkins III[1][2] (born December 8, 1952) is an American trade unionist, environmental activist, and perennial candidate from New York. A co-founder of the Green Party of the United States, Hawkins was the party’s presidential nominee in the 2020 presidential election. His ideological platform includes enacting an eco-socialist version of the Green New Deal—which he first proposed in 2010—and building a viable, independent working-class political and social movement in opposition to the country’s two major political parties, and capitalism in general.[3]
wp:2024 United States presidential election in Hawaii#Results
Apparently RFK, Jr isn’t on the Hawaiian ballot, though your state has write-ins.
slim pickings here:
wp:2024 United States House of Representatives elections in Hawaii
however,
wp:2020 United States House of Representatives elections in Hawaii#Results 2
Aloha ʻĀina
Jonathan Hoomanawanui
6453 votes
2.37%
The Aloha ʻĀina Party (Hawaiian for “love of the land”) is a political party in the US state of Hawaiʻi that advocates for the Hawaiian sovereignty movement and the promotion of Native Hawaiian culture.[1][2]
The fuck…?
Why on earth would you feel compelled to educate me about my local politics by pulling up some wiki pages and then refusing to even format your message? And why the fuck would anything in this post indicate RFK might be someone to vote for? The theoretical appeal of the Greens is progressivism, not the unfortunate antivax shit that’s glommed onto it.
And Aloha Aina is the local party I had never heard of before seeing them on the ballot, which may sound good to you because you know nothing about Hawaii, but is something in the vague realm between nutjob sovereign citizen types and conservatives that can’t bear to be Republicans due to history.
(my bold)
Why on earth would you feel compelled to educate me about my local politics by pulling up some wiki pages and then refusing to even format your message?
and,
And Aloha Aina is the local party I had never heard of before seeing them on the ballot,
TIL
And why the fuck would anything in this post indicate RFK might be someone to vote for?
I don’t know, but it might be saying something about ballot acess laws in Hawaiʻi.
The theoretical appeal of the Greens is progressivism, not the unfortunate antivax shit that’s glommed onto it.
fair enough.
And Aloha Aina is the local party I had never heard of before seeing them on the ballot, which may sound good to you because you know nothing about Hawaii, but is something in the vague realm between nutjob sovereign citizen types and conservatives that can’t bear to be Republicans due to history.
according to WP:
According to its website, the Aloha ʻĀina party advocates for a sovereign Hawaiʻi through the framework of hoʻoponopono (“making right what is wrong”), believing the overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom to have been an unjust act. It also promotes other Hawaiian values such as Mālama ʻĀina (“taking care of the land”) and Aloha Kānaka (“love and care for the people”).[2]
Dude, I live here. I looked them up when I saw them and read the same dumb statements you’re copypasting from Wikipedia. Which, surprise surprise, is not the whole fucking story. You don’t live here and don’t know anything about the politics here, so stop relaying useless wiki text.
See this is your issue assuming we give a shit about jill or the green party. 😂
We dont. it was just a convenient box to tick because harris’ campaign tried to remove her from the ballot, and fed their bullhorns the line about splitting the ticket. The vote would still have been cast for a different third party candidate unless Harris’ position was corrected. It wasnt so the box gets ticked away.
Learn to properly focus your political energy: its much easier to get harris to flip than getting a million voters who have morals to flip.
So unless you want what is happening in gaza: learn to lie to your politicians.
- Tell them you’ll vote third party over x.
- Follow through if you’re in a deep blue state.
- Hedge your bet by voting Democrats down ballot.
- Always lie to pollsters about your intent for any given candidate. The less reliable polls are the better. Means your letters to your politicians are more important.
Learn to read:
The Green party isn’t a party worth anyone’s heart.
You don’t counter this with “we don’t really care about the Green party”. Go repeat your argument somewhere that makes sense. I don’t care about the 5D chess you think you’re playing.
I’m sorry you made an assumption about what jill stein represents to people like me who checked that box knowing full well who she is, what she represents and that it made your entire argument fall flat. 🤷
Its not my fault you don’t get why harris is a shit candidate. we’ve been warning you for months now. thats why harris is struggling. not because of anything jill has done. I certainly didn’t make the democrats try to ban jill from ballots. now she just represents a convenient protest vote. if harris loses in the next 5ish days after the ballots finish being counted, well it certainly will be unfortunate. I’m 🤞 she doesn’t but we tried to get her to change her policies before it was too late.
Are you saying that if Stein dropped out, her supporters would have voted for De la Cruz?
possibly. cruz is a little bit too nutty. might have also left the presidential ticket empty. I probably would have gone the latter route. jill was just amusing due to the harris campaign trying to get her rejected from ballots.
