Green politicians from across Europe on Friday called on U.S. Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein to withdraw from the race for the White House and endorse Democrat Kamala Harris instead.

“We are clear that Kamala Harris is the only candidate who can block Donald Trump and his anti-democratic, authoritarian policies from the White House,” Green parties from countries including Germany, France, Denmark, Italy, the Netherlands, Ireland, Estonia, Belgium, Spain, Poland and Ukraine said in a statement, which was shared with POLITICO ahead of publication

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      Well, sure. I’m not saying that Russians didn’t have a nefarious reason to invite her there. It’s entirely possible and maybe even likely that they did it because they saw a third party candidate as a useful tool to sow some sort of election discord in the US. But that claim would be entirely different than the claim that Jill Stein did it because she’s an asset or that this was her idea or purpose for being there. I’m disputing the latter, not the former, because her attending a gala for RT is not evidence of collusion and this was the implication being made. I can find all sorts of pictures online of Hillary Clinton and other politicians having dinners with Trump or Putin, but that doesn’t mean the photos are evidence that they were in collusion with either of them.

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        I like how you are completely overlooking the fact that I never made any actual claim about her being a Russian asset.

        You kept bringing up the asset thing.

        This is what I wrote:

        The asset part was a complete invention of yours.

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      You don’t get put at a dinner table in Moscow with Putin unless Putin has a good reason for wanting you there.

      He doesn’t just sit down with random people and hope they have a good time.

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          That’s basically what this person seems to be suggesting. Like she just happened to be sitting there and Putin and all of his closest people were like, “let’s go see who this lady is and what she’s up to!”

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            Ah yes the dude is such an all-knowing chessmaster chad dangerous dictator but he lets people take photoshoot of his secret election interference meeting.

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              I did not say it was a secret election interference meeting. Do not put words in my mouth. That’s just dishonest.

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                Ah so you’re just dogwhistling to let people have their own conclusions or something? Kindof like fascists with what we should do with brown people?

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                  Please name this particular group you think I work for beyond ‘people who don’t trust someone who sits at a dinner table with the dictator of Russia at a state celebration in Moscow for English-language Russian state TV.’

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            Except it’s not what I’m suggesting at all. I haven’t suggested anything. I’ve posted what Stein has said happened, which she says was a dinner at a RT anniversary gala where Putin only briefly sat at their table, no introductions were made, and no English-Russian conversations happened. If you have evidence of something else happening there, as you seem to be suggesting, then provide it.

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              If you have evidence of something else happening there

              Ah, I see the problem. You aren’t reading my posts. Let me help you:

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                I’ve read all of your replies. Why would I believe that happened without evidence? Have you proven that she’s networked with Russians or Putin? Suggesting something might have happened isn’t evidence of the thing happening.

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                    Repeating things isn’t providing evidence. As I’ve said in another comment, being at a dinner table with someone isn’t evidence of collusion. Putin sitting at a table with someone, even if he’s the one who chose to seat himself there, isn’t evidence that that person is colluding with him. He’s sat at dinner tables with Hillary Clinton. Does that mean Clinton is a Russian asset? You’d recognize that claim as absurd without evidence surely?