Former President Donald Trump urged members of a crowd in Florida to vote and said that if he wins, they “won’t have to vote anymore.”
Speaking at a Turning Point Action event in West Palm Beach on Friday, Trump, who tried to overturn the 2020 election he lost, delivered a cryptic message.
“And again, Christians, get out and vote!” he said to a cheering audience. “Just this time. You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years. You know what? It’ll be fixed! It’ll be fine! You won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians. I love you, Christians! I’m a Christian. I love you. Get out. You gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again.”
In case you missed it the OLD orange felon/rapist has already declared himself the winner. He has said if he isn’t the winner the election was rigged. They intend to take control no matter what.
He’s done this before and all that happened was a small crowd of idiots making mess in the Capitol.
I guarantee that THIS time there will be far more than a handful of cops on scene, regardless of who wins.
If he loses, how many states would have to just flip their electoral votes? The supreme court would 100% approve it.
LOL i was wondering how long it would take for them to come out and say it
They already had. Back in February at CPAC
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2024/02/23/jack-posobiec-cpac-remarks-democracy-cnc-vpx.cnn
jesus fucking christ
Democracy is an overrated concept - truth cannot be achieved through consensus but by the will and conviction of one.
Gonna go out on a limb here and guess that you wouldn’t find a progressive supreme leader satisfactory?
imagine openly saying this shit. lol. your comment history is a trash fire so it isn’t surprising.
Akshally, I agree that democracy with votes is flawed at best.
Consensus is not it, but it’s also bad in the situations where you have to make some decision. It favors sabotage.
Democracy through sortition and (ranked) vote combined is my favorite concept, with a lot of things being left to voluntary contracts with exterritorial jurisdictions, like a few states inside one in the same territory, where you can choose between a jurisdiction of ancoms, a jurisdiction of Christians, a jurisdiction of crackheads and so on.
A.I. take the wheel.
Hell no, G-d no.
I honestly think they’ll do better than we have. They don’t have the evolutionary baggage.
Thank you for your most excellent contribution.
no, don’t oversell it; it was a normal contribution… it just looks most excellent when juxtaposed with your inane ramblings.
Hardly but if it makes you happy.
You are a dumbass, my man. Psychotic
Truth, Trump, pick one. Dude sharpies hurricanes. Also a weird goal for government. Would our leaders telling the truth be a good thing? Oh yeah, but “truth” won’t help the hungry.
Trump is a douchbag…
You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years.
I think it was just his weird way to address the lazy ass demographic which can’t be bothered to vote even once in 4 years.
But those are mostly people with executive dysfunction, so how does his speech help, I dunno
*erectile
This brings me pain since I have the former, but don’t have the latter. Despite being generally unattractive to women. OK, maybe not unattractive, but with the former you just don’t use the chances given by being attractive.
I’m not american, but I have a feeling this election is going to go into history.
Vote for Trump and he’ll turn it into dictatorship.
Vote for Harris and she’ll be the first woman president.
What will it be?
Buttery mails 2: electric bugaloo
RN is the time to do something cool so your name gets on the history test
I hope if Harris gets into office she will be more than just a token granted by the DNC to appease minority voters. We already saw Obama being a mediocre at best internally, and internationally brutal war criminal, president. Him being black did not make him a good president. And for Hillary Clinton the “she’s a women” trope failed catastrophically and brought us Trump in the first place.
Harris needs to convince with policy and character, not with race or gender.
She’s winning with policy and character so far.
So far, I don’t feel like she’s appeasing to minorities.
It’s more about replacing Biden and going against Trump.
Not just the first woman president, but the first mixed race president and the first to snap back when attacked in a long time. Trump is scared. He just went from saying “you don’t need to vote because we have plenty of votes” to “please vote so we can end voting”
First Asian President
First South Asian President lol
Obama was the first mixed race President.
TIL. I was just leaving highschool when Obama was elected.
Cryptically? This motherfucker is the most transparent asshole on the planet. He couldn’t convince a bucket of fish they were out of the water.
He plain and clearly said “if I win it will be the end of democracy”. There isn’t subtext.
I don’t have anything to add, I agree wholeheartedly, I just love that saying and somehow hadn’t heard it before
Trump says you won’t need to vote if he wins. But here’s the thing: It’s not just Democrats who should worry. Trump’s chaos could destroy the whole rigged system - Republican and Democrat. He might seem like an undertaker of the American democracy, but in doing so he will drown his own ship, too. But we need to help him steer it into the iceberg of organized social anger instead of isolated floes made of any expectations his mostly temporarily deluded and desperate voters may have or some single-cause activisms or culture wars that will only benefit him. Those will be shattered within the first few months of his term, as he won’t have COVID to use as an excuse for his failures to not only address, but at least not make worse the organic crisis of the system, like Genocide Joe had.
Pretty sure that warrants a second attempt.
You mean a first success.
Yes, I think we are on the same page ;)
How do you know the fascists won’t just rally behind somebody else like Trump, but younger and more competent?
That’s the usual “if they killed hitler someone worse would have take power”. That’s not certain at all, what is certain is that hitler was very bad and removing him would have been a good thing.
Not really a reason not to
Cryptic, no. Bizarre, yes.
Not even bizarre, just saying the quiet part out loud, again.
To anyone thinking, “well there is some subtext here we’re not talking about.” Gtfo the man wants to be putin. Since day one. Putin does have compromat on donald. All the videos trump sends him of himself furiously masterbating.
The subtext is Armageddon.
“Cryptically”
In four years, you don’t have to vote again.
Man, I thought it was just a misquote, but he kept going and getting more specific.
In my eyes this is the actual scariest thing he’s ever said.
I mean it quite a good soundbite for any democratic ad for sure.
I seriously want to just scatter pictures of this quote all over town… don’t see how any Republican could be on board with this unless they actually want a dictatorship
Genuine national security threat.
What? Speaking to “Christians” and saying he’ll be god king emperor and/or he’ll help usher in the second coming…you know, Armageddon - the end of the world?
Nothing scary at all.
I’m barely into politics, my high school teachings of the political system aren’t terribly strong in my mind. All that to ask:
- Can he do that?
And, if so:
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What would need to happen for a president to convert our system to lifetime terms?
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What would need to happen for a president to convert our system to a dictatorship/monarchy/whatever? (so we actually never voted again)
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Is it at all likely that Trump could make either of those things happen?
P.S. You don’t need to make the 86th comment about how this isn’t cryptic. Shitty headlines should be criticized, but it isn’t adding to the discussion at the point. I mean, look at me, I managed to get through this entire comment and not menti- Oh crap, I’m part of the problem.
The government is run by people, so he just needs a critical mass of followers in important positions in order to gum things up. That’s why the #1 and perhaps only thing he cares about in other people are how much they like him and how loyal they are. Also to him.
Go back and watch Star Wars Episode 3. That’s actually a good description of how a democracy falls to autocracy. The Republicans have been openly dreaming of a “Permanant Republican Majority” since AT LEAST Bush 43’s terms in office. And they’ve been laying the framework since Nixon – a
newsentertainment channel that caters to Right-Winger fantasies, judges who put ideology over legality, partisan gerrymandering that concentrates Republican voters for power and dilutes Dem votes into meaninglessness, and political theories that basically advocate for the dismantling of our political systems if that will keep Democrats out of power even if they have a majority.To answer your questions directly:
Can he do that? Yes. He can. Anyone can.
What would need to happen to convert our system to lifetime terms? There are a variety of ways, but they all boil down to the President doing outright illegal things under cover of a friendly Supreme Court. After all, they granted immunity to ‘official acts’, which we believe is cover for an autocratic takeover of the country.
What would need to happen to convert our system into a dictatorship/monarchy/whatevs? This is just a hypothetical situation. It’s July 2028. Mass incarcerations of Leftists, Immigrants, Muslims, and Minorities have begun and the country is in the throes of a civil war. Polling is reporting that Trump could lose the election, despite disenfranchising the Left’s voting base through various means. Trump announces he’s postponing the 2028 elections 'until things calm down, they have to get much better first before we can have a fair election." People sue. It doesn’t matter what happens in the lower courts, because they’ll appeal all the way up to the Supreme Court. The same 6 Conservative ideologues that said he has immunity for ‘official acts’ will rule that he has the right to suspend the election. And that, my friends, is how Democracy ends, with massive applause from the Alt-Right assholes that Clinton quite rightly fucking called “Deplorable”.
Can Trump actually make either of those happen? Yes. Yes, he can. The framework is already laid out. HK-65 laid it out elsewhere. Essentially, you start by shutting the Other Side out of government. You then take over all the levers of government. Then you set them so you can’t lose. You might need to just waive away the safetyguards that get in your way, and some you might use your lock on government to remove ‘legitimately’. If the 22nd Amendment gets in the way of a Republican dynasty, they’ll have it removed.
TL;DR? Never rely on checks and balances to stop authoritarianism. In the end, the Constitution IS just a piece of paper, and will be run over by authoritarian jerks if that means power.
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Not an expert on the US political system, but legislative power, and thus changing the system, is vested in Congress, not the Presidency. So he’d need to get a supermajority there, and rewrite the Constitution. Point is, it’s not Trump that can do it, but a theoretical Republican House and Senate 60% supermajority (or a supermajority of State legislatures).
Look at what happened in Hungary in 2010, that’s a blueprint of that happening. Biden dropping out is good news, since from the outside it kinda looked like the US might have been setting itself up for that kind of thing to happen. I think with Harris running, it’s not realistic the Dems will lose that bad.
That said, he could try another Jan 6th, basically take Washington under military occupation. Then it’s up to which states go along with it and which ones don’t, and you’ve got a civil war.
All he really needs is the supreme court to step in at any point there is a close contest to decide on the outcome. Also, there are only about 1,500 electors. Voting is kind of a sham.
Its rhetoric for sure, but there are possible methods to suspend elections. We don’t know what they are yet until a group starts publicly speculating about how it could legally be done. Not that it is impossible, who knows what the future may hold?
I would say its pretty doubtful you could indefinitely suspend federal elections, but cheetoh benito loves to dog whistle to his base.
As an outsider I honestly just don’t get what people see in this idiot. How can you take someone that talk like that seriously? He sounds like a nutter that is promising crazy stuff that would literally mean the end of the USA as we know it.
If he’d get his way with this and the other project 2025 stuff it’d honestly be the end of America I think.
I think what Trump’s following kind of reveals is a sad truth about humans generally; about a quarter of people are very stupid and very susceptible to cult-think. It doesn’t always manifest as support for a politician, it could be anti-vax beliefs, or racism, zionism etc.
Wherever you are, about 25-30% of people are simply not equipped to think critically, and that stupidity is activated or weaponized under various conditions, most often during times of economic stress or social chaos. People who can’t understand the complex causes of a problem are easy to manipulate – you give them a simplistic answer.
“It’s the jews” or “trans people are the root of your problems” etc.
It can happen anywhere because a certain demographic of people are just dumb, and there’s no way around it other than trying to reduce human suffering across the board and making it less likely that anyone is struggling.
As an American, neither do I. The man was a national joke for 30+ years, and all it took was a shiny new coat of paint in the form of a reality TV show where they just straight up constantly lied about his wealth and business acumen, for people to literally begin worshipping him.
Watching your loved ones fall into this shit is heartbreaking.
Trump is a cult leader in all but name. His zealots support worldviews that have been made illegal, taboo, obsolete, or otherwise unacceptable, like white supremacy and racism, fascism, theocracy, homo-/transphobia, and mysogyny; they perceive this as an attack against their lifestyles by “the others.” They will rally to the loudest voice that speaks out against “the others” and support him as long as that remains true.
Trump cultists are irrational creatures, you can’t apply rational expectations.
As an insider, it’s even worse. You didn’t have to suffer 4 years of continuous clusterfuck and embarrassment only to be topped off by a planned insurrection that they still try to gaslight everyone about.
You’re absolutely correct that it would be the end of America.
People who vote for Trump have been brainwashed by Fox News. It really is as simple as that.
I’m Canadian and whenever I’m abroad, the locals ask me what the fuck is wrong with Americans. Expecting I’ll know better bc we’re neighbours.
Which is true, since we’re more likely to interact.
All I can reply is, “They’re just totally fucked!” It’s that simple!Also, when I meet Americans abroad now, the first thing they do is apologize for America. That’s the only Canadian trait that’s rubbed off on them.
He promises simple solutions with no sacrifice, essentially just “I’ll fix it.” Certain people love that. Don’t care what the solution is, don’t care that the problem has been simplified beyond recognition, just fix shit.
Paraphrasing here:
“Let’s just take the guns away. Due process after.”
“I’ll have Medicare fixed. Just wait a week.”
“Mexico will pay for it.”
This is the insane dribble this fuck spews on the daily, and people eat it up.
I think if Trumps plan plays out and if If Project 2025 is enacted it will likely have more than an effect on the US, it will likely have profound effects on the world. It will change geopolitics and economies through shifts in alliances, trade dynamics, nationalistic sentiments, and domestic economic policies.
Thinking it through, it’ll probably move towards an increasingly complex global landscape, overshadowed by uncertainty and potential conflicts.
The documentary “The Handmaid’s Tale” is about this
