Conservative social democrat in the Blue Labour tradition. Ally of Jews, enemy of antisemites. Interests in psychology, theology, and literature.

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  • the people in it is native.

    Some were, some weren’t. Depends how far back you want to go, which wave of mass migration you’re talking about.

    Israel is nonexistent before 1948 and the people were brought from outside

    Except, of course, that none of this is correct.

    First, there’s the ancient Kingdom of Judah. The Jews are the same people.

    Second, Jews maintained a continuous presence in the land of Israel-Palestine ever since then. They are, therefore, indigenous to the land.

    Third, the majority of Jewish Israelis are Mizrahis – Jews from Arab lands who’ve lived there since the Second Temple Period (516 BC - 70 AD), who were forced to flee from these neighbouring Muslim states due to violence, pogroms, repression and the theft of their property.

    We know from numerous scientific studies of Jewish and Palestinian DNA that they’re almost identical, and share a common root, most likely both being descendents of the ancient Canaanites. Here’s a very recent one. There’s almost no genetic difference with ‘European’ Ashkenazi Jews either, because they very rarely intermarried with other faith/ethnic groups. Here’s another from 2015 in Haaretz.

    Palestinians and Jews are basically cousins, genetically speaking, and both are indigenous to the land. Palestinians perceive it as an invasion, and that’s understandable despite not being true. To the Jews, they were returning from exile to their homeland only to find that there were squatters who’d let the place fall to ruin while they were gone, which is also understandable though not true.

    They’ll find a way to live together one day, but it’ll require both sides to accept the rights of the other.






  • I believe the existence of nation states is an abhorration.

    But it’s only when the Jews claim the same right as every other people that you have a problem.

    Think about that for a minute.

    antizionism is the belief that the Jewish people are part of a diaspora, and the creation of an Israeli state undermines that culture in addition to necessitating mass killing that is indistinguishable from genocide. antizionism simply opposes zionism, and makes no claims about denying rights to anyone.

    This isn’t what Anti-Zionism is. It might be what you mean by it, but it isn’t Anti-Zionism. Partly because Zionism – and the establishment of an Israeli state – does not, and never has, necessitated mass killing.

    It does in fact make claims about rights – it specifically selects out Jews as the only people who are not entitled to self-determination and the aspiration to nationhood in a state of their own and in their homeland to which they are indigenous.


  • Zionism = the belief that the Jewish people have the right of self-determination in the form of the state of Israel in which their national aspirations

    Anti-zionism = the belief that the Jewish people, uniquely among all the peoples of the world, have no right of self-determination or a state in which their national aspirations can be pursued.

    Can you see why that’s antisemitic?

    Israel is, besides all that, already established. Zionism was completed. It’s not going anywhere.




  • I’m not a libertarian, I’m a social democrat.

    The last century has been a total and unmitigated disaster for Argentina. The two options Argentinians had in this election were:

    1. More of the same by the guy who oversaw inflation reaching 160% (100% chance of things getting worse)
    2. A total wild card (99.9% chance of things getting worse)

    Unsurprisingly, they went for the latter. I don’t think anti-libertarians get to gloat in this context, given it’s the Argentinian establishment which has overseen one of the most remarkable examples of total state-collapse and economic failure in modern history.