Could legal weed save America from becoming a fascist dystopia under Trump? Headline of the century.
Oh they’re going to put this carrot in front of us again?
Yeah, people like weed way more than they like Biden.
I’d take weed over any politician any day of the week.
I’ll bet good money that if he tries it it’ll be closer to August
Because you fucking know it’s gonna get challenged and that the Supreme Court is gonna be all brow furrowey trying to invent a reason why it’s unconstitutional to not pursue a drug policy based in exactly zero medical science.
At least if it’s near the election the topic will still be fresh by the time SCOTUS chooses that laws are for binding Democrats and protecting Republicans.
SCOTUS is extremely unpopular. If they tell Biden to throw more people in jail and he replies with a very public, “get fucked you corrupt prison lobby shills” his poll number would go up even higher.
C’mon Dank Brandon!
His campaign promise 7 days before the election…
“As president, I’ll work to reform the criminal justice system, improve community policing, decriminalize marijuana, and automatically expunge all prior marijuana convictions.”
I wonder if marijuana news paper dot com has any bias slant towards marijuana
I’m really worried that the liberals really are going to vote for a genuine genocide-supporter.
As opposed to the other genocide-supporter that’s also a fascist racist?
Primaries and the rest of the year are for voting for and supporting the best possible candidates. Elections are for playing damage control and voting for the least worst option.
Don’t let a lack of perfection be an excuse for choose Worse over Better.
No, you don’t vote for genocide-supporters period. I am appalled that is a controversial opinion.
Supporting a genocide is not “Lack of perfection”. It’s an abundance of evil
In the real world, people will vote in their own self interest. If you’re queer, trans, have dark skin, are female, or are an ally to those groups, not voting for Biden is functionally equivalent to voting for the orange turd who will support and encourage crimes against them.
The harm reduction argument doesn’t work if for the past 4 years individual rights have constantly deteriorated.
Which is, in a large part, due to the fallout from actions taken by the Trump administration.
So best case scenario the guy is useless because he can’t reduce harm.
So if he doesn’t have the magic ability to make everyone’s lives better in an instant, he’s useless?
The entire point of our system is that we don’t have a singular person with absolute power. The reason the Trump administration was able to take the actions it did wasn’t due to just Trump. It was also due to actions taken by congress and the judiciary.
This one office can only do so much, you need to vote in that election in addition to every other election you’re able to. And it won’t be a quick turnaround. Expecting magic to happen two seconds after stepping out of the voting booth once every four years is naive and getting petulant when it doesn’t happen is dangerous.
Man, this is an immature take. The republican stacked judiciary has been the biggest issue for reducing harm in The US.
Do we like the support of the Israelis actions, absolutely not. But, when people tell you who they are, listen. Trump would be worse for everyone except his chosen few and the oligarchs. He has said as much.
If we had a more truly left option that would not put so many others at risk, I think we’d see a massive shift. That is our work during the next 4 years.
We just don’t have a good viable option this year…
Frame it however you want but there’s still merit in voting for the guy who doesn’t actively want to destroy you.
Failing to vote is just another way of supporting the republican party.
So not voting for Trump is a way of supporting the democratic party. Evens out.
It doesn’t though, because you know for damn sure that every Republican will be voting for trump. If a substantial number of liberals don’t vote for Biden, Trump wins.
If they do though, then Biden wins. And then they will have voted a genocide supporter into office.
The other guy supports Israel just like this guy.
The choice for genocide or no genocide is not part of this election.
Why would that worry you? What action should they take that would make you less worried?
Threaten to withhold the vote if there is a genocide supporting candidate running. If they do run him, you have to make good on your threat, if they change then good news: your democracy got a little bit more representative.
And if they lose, now you get multiple genocides!
Already got them.
“Breaking News: Polls show that if Biden were better, more people would like him.”
If Biden reschedules (or even better legalizes — I know this is a larger challenge legally) cannabis and takes a harder stance against Israel, I think he would win most of the key states he needs to win the election. Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada, Michigan, Arizona, and to a lesser degree Georgia will determine this election. The rest of the states are locked in. A 1% swing can mean the difference to prevent a dictatorship.
Don’t underestimate domestic pro-Israel agents’ ability to assassinate a US politician’s political career. Lemmy is not the American media, and the latter is still largely supporting Israel’s campaign.
Also, I genuinely don’t think most Americans care all that much to the degree it would affect their support of Biden.
I’m struggling to think of anyone I know who is so upset about Israel they would consider throwing the country to Trump, and I know a lot of people that have very strong opinions on Israel.
It just doesn’t track. If you’re against Israel’s actions, you’re probably also not keen on fascism, racism, and authoritarianism…so logically, you’re not keen on letting Trump win.
According to the census, 1.1% of Americans are Muslim and many Muslim leaders are encouraging their base not to vote for Biden. They aren’t voting for Trump either but since Muslims lean heavily democrat, a non vote is the same as voting for Trump in a swing state. It isn’t that they want Trump and authoritarianism, it’s that they are protesting against the US support for Israel.
Source: https://apnews.com/article/muslim-swing-state-biden-vote-fb3b93f465ed6fd34a901c269a084a90
Well that there is a failure of Muslim leadership.
Hatred is often a self destructive thing. Not voting for Biden increases the probability that Trump will win which will be a very bad thing for Muslims in the US. So they’re willing to cause themselves harm over their hatred of Israel.
Maybe it’s time people stop listening to leaders that want to sacrifice the people they lead to make themselves look like strong men?
Wow that’s some straight up antisemitism right there. Sorry, but there isn’t some secret Jewish Cabal controlling the world.
Go outside and touch some grass, ok?
Sigh.
Saying there’s a strong pro-Israel lobby is not antisemitism.
Sigh.
Promoting conspiracy theories involving Jews being puppet masters that control your government is textbook Goebbels kind of shit.
They weren’t claiming that jews are puppet master overlords that control our governments
They were claiming that Israel has a strong political lobby that can do a lot of political damage to politicians that don’t align themselves with Israel.
They do this by doing exactly what you’re doing. Claiming or implying that anybody against Israel or the pro-Israel lobby is an antisemite.
I’ll remind you that “jewish people” and “Israel” are not the same thing.
I’ll remind you that “jewish people” and “Israel” are not the same thing.
You need to tell that to the people that are shootiing at synogogues, trying to burn down jewish businesses. There is a Pro-Palestinian movement in my city that are protesting a Jewish community instead of protesting the Israeli consulate that’s in this city. Maybe tell them they should be protesting the consulate not the jewish communtiy because they don’t seem as enlightened as you are to understand the distinction between Israel and Jews in other countries.
But you aren’t going to do that, are you? Could upset your friends in your movement if you criticize their actions.
The Palestinian movement has proven the need for a group to lobby for the well being of Jews in the US. If you won’t speak out against the antisemitic activity that’s occurring in the Palestinian movement because you’re too busy spreading conspiracy theories on the internet, then yeah there needs to be some group that’s able to talk about these issues to those in power that are able to protect communities that are in danger from your allies in your movement.
I never said antisemitism doesn’t exist. Neither did the person above. Nor did anybody else.
You’re bringing that up now as a distraction. Criticising the actions of the regime in Israel, a regime that has openly stated they want to see the eradication of all Palestinians, is not antisemitism.
“My” friends in “my movement”? What are you talking about? I’m not involved in a movement against Jewish people.
If you’re referring to me being against the genocide being carried out by Israel, then yes, I’m against that.
But it’s not really a “movement”, it’s the default. I guess with that line of thinking I’m a part of all kinds of “movements” - the “anti-paedophilia movement”, the “I don’t like kale movement”, the “people who think alligators are scary movement”, the “people who dislike chores movement”, etc.
Hi there. Jewish person here. The people you are accusing of being antisemitic are 100% right. AIPAC has controlled the American political stance on Israel for decades.
If you care about American Jews, stop associating them with Israel. That is what is getting us harassed and attacked, being automatically associated with Israel.
Yeah this is the internet and I can claim that I’m a Palestinian that thinks that Netanyahu is completely in the right. Which proves what exactly?
Also note that racism towards “Cosmopolitan Jews” was a way a certain group used as a gateway for people that weren’t willing to be antisemitic towards all Jews. But we know how that ended.
So today it’s considered to be good and correct to hate “zionist jews” by those who would normally think antismeitsm is wrong. Meanwhile in my city there’s an Israeli consullate, but the protesters don’t go there, they protest in the middle of a Jewish community, and have attempted to burn down Jewish businesses. While you’re distinguishing between “
cosmopolitanzionist jews” and other jews, there are many people in the Palestinian movement who are not.We need to stop looking the other way about what this is really about. An antisemitic movement that wants to restore the ethnic makeup of a geographic area to the way it was in a history book by the use of extreme violence. “Blood and soil”, “from the river to the sea” same shit different century.
I’m not a Jew but my grandfather fought in a war against people that did the same things the Palestinian movement is doing right now. Jews went along with the movement my grandfather fought against too, you know. So the same bullshit from a century ago and how it affected my grandfather means a bit more than your unverifiable claims about being a jew. This ain’t about you, this is about fascists trying to burn down Jewish businesses in the city I live in after my grandfather sacrificed a lot to fight against that kind of evil.
Now go on and make excuses for the violent actions of the fascists in your movement like a good useful idiot.
The only sane comment in this entire thead.
You are welcome to look at my comment history and see how many other times I have talked about being Jewish.
I really don’t care. There were Jews that joined the Nazi party. Historically being Jewish hasn’t exactly been a prophylactic against being a part of antisemitic movements. You may think you can win over the violent elements in a movement to only hate a subset of Jews so you’ll be fine. But when there’s a night of the long knives you find out only the opinions of those with the knives really count in these kinds of movements. And they aren’t going to care that you were “one of the good ones” when the knives come out.
They already don’t seem to care what kind of Jew goes to the synagogues they shoot at.
So first I’m not a Jew and now I’m a Jewish Nazi?
If the DNC had a backbone it wouldn’t be Biden to begin with.
You mean if they were stupid enough to try nominating any of the candidates Biden beat 4 years ago? Stupid enough to gamble on a new candidate, ignoring the fact Biden already beat Trump once? Stupid enough to ignore the fact the fact that the incumbent president more often than not wins reelection?
You’re right, democracy is on the line, now’s the best time to fucking gamble it away.
“now’s” as good a time as any
“this time for sure”
“can’t believe how easily this will be to beat trump”
“better of 2 evils! don’t worry we’ll just go further left in 4 years :)”
“oopsie dead babies :(”
[repeats ad nauseam until the libs are dead or go further right]
don’t worry we’ll just go further left in 4 years :)”
But we did. The Inflation Reduction Act was not only the most climate friendly bill in US history, it bolstered domestic green energy companies so much that Canada and Europe had to pass similar legislation to stay competitive (and keep companies from relocating).
The unfortunate fact of the matter is that Israel is going to keep killing babies, and the US president is going to support Israel, no matter who it is, for the foreseeable future.
Your choice is if you’ll willingly accept the burden and do whatever you can nonetheless to help the most people domestically and globally – or if you’ll pretend you aren’t carrying the burden, and you’re willing to throw women, black Americans, brown Americans, gay Americans, trans Americans, etc under the bus to maintain that delusion.
No matter what you do, if you pay taxes in the US, you’re funding infanticidal Israeli weapons. Democracy is shitty like that. The majority of people are uncomfortable with all the civilian deaths, but a majority still wants to fund weapons for them. Don’t like it? Grit your teeth, try to make a difference, and minimize any unnecessary support to Israel.
There will be no leftist utopia except from the labor of blood soaked hands from those who understand there’s no other choice. I can only hope that one day my kids or their kids will be able to judge me without any hypocrisy, because we successfully made a world free of these awful realities.
I can only hope that one day my kids or their kids will be able to
Libs over here acting like they’re going to have GRANDkids let alone kids. SMFH
Burn down the MIC
There is no other way
Going to tell you: History is not kind to leftists who kowtow to Fascists because they’ll “burn it down” (Look up Social Fascism)
They end up with bullets in their heads rather than glorious revolution.
All I see is you boot-licking for the USA’s genocide 🤷♂️
In case you’re wondering, for future reference, the reason why you never seem to find progressives who’ll vote for Biden or support the mainstream Democrat candidate is because when we try to earnestly explain our viewpoint and how we think we can help the most people, we just run into non serious memelords.
But on the bright side, it wasn’t wasted time on my part. People still saw what I had to say, and you made it look all the wiser. Shame that you’ve only continued to drain supporters from your “burn it down” caucus though.
You still live in a delusion that playing by their rules will somehow fix any of this shit (not to mention the selfish act of having 2 generations into WWIII)
If Biden ended the war on drugs it would nearly completely clench at least his party’s re-election, probably swing the congress on over too.
Not to mention it’s absolutely the correct decision.
Honestly, people being able to get tested known doses of various drugs of choice would save a lot of lives and create a lot of opportunity to intervene and help people recover. Making drugs illegal just causes miser and funds crime.
Maybe for weed, but I don’t think that would be so clear cut for other substances. Even here San Francisco, the public is only willing to go so far with decriminalizing.
I would wager that weed, and maybe certain hallucinations would be bump in the polls, but for narcotics and opioids, ending the war on that stuff would hurt him. But maybe I’m wrong.
3rd party 2024
End the MIC
Tell me you don’t understand Duverger’s Law without telling me you don’t understand Duverger’s Law.
I mean you’re the one losing on this front… You vote for the fascist and you still lose.
Either you vote w/ the rest of your class, or you are the one who doesn’t seem to understand Duverger’s very unproven law 😂
How does getting Trump elected help?
If the Dems wanted to pick an actual candidate, this could easily be avoided…
But they’re not. So this is reality. So, how does getting Trump elected help?
Kinda the DNC’s problem, if they know going 3rd party helps Trump, they should run an actual candidate.
Kinda the problem for people who will have to live under tyrannical hellscape. Like… Iono … Trans kids?
Do you care about other people?
If you could prove Duverger’s Law wrong, you’d be famous. But you’re just spreading propaganda on the internet instead. Bigly sad.
If you could prove Duverger’s Law right, you’d be famous. But you’re just spreading propaganda on the internet instead. Bigly sad.
How do I suggest a different Primary?
Seems a bit late for that
Unfortunately, we can’t without breaking international treaties we are party to.
I’m sure Biden will get blamed for that too.
Please elaborate further
They legalised cannibis in NY and now my 79 year old mother is getting high at parties. Thanks Obama.
He’s gonna legalize weed and get himself a decade in office. Worked for Trudeau in Canada.
