Nato members have pledged their support for an “irreversible path” to future membership for Ukraine, as well as more aid.
While a formal timeline for it to join the military alliance was not agreed at a summit in Washington DC, the military alliance’s 32 members said they had “unwavering” support for Ukraine’s war effort.
Nato has also announced further integration with Ukraine’s military and members have committed €40bn ($43.3bn, £33.7bn) in aid in the next year, including F-16 fighter jets and air defence support.
The bloc’s Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said: “Support to Ukraine is not charity - it is in our own security interest.”
What if supporting Ukraine just ends in a loss with a hundred thousand more dead people and less territory; would that have made it a mistake to support Ukraine?
The main issue is that Russia feels that it cant let ukraine join nato, its “the reddest of red lines” and yet they are pushing us toward a direct conflict with russia.
No, the only mistake would be appeasing the dictator by letting him get away with delusional imperialist conquests.
Cool, how do we stop him then without starting WW3 and/or nuclear war?
By helping Ukraine win… which is what we’re trying to do now.
But they knew from day 1 that Ukraine couldnt win. And now that its obvious to everyone else, what is gained by escallating war, spending billions of dollars and killing hundreds of thousands of people?
Everybody thought that Ukraine would fall within a week but it’s been able to go toe to toe with Russia for over two years. Ukraine has every right to defend itself, destroy Russian forces invading it, and join whatever organization it wants. It’s a free sovereign nation. If spending a few billion dollars means we destroy Russia’s capacity to wage war and help Ukraine defend itself, then so be it. Russia can get fucked. They’re the aggressors and they deserve what they’re getting.
So long story short, you are okay if a hundred thousand extra Ukrainians die if russia is harmed a bit? That is literally what you are saying, the war could have been over a long long time ago but the west offered weapons and money for them to keep conscripting people to fight a war.
Shut the fuck up tankie. You’re sitting here trying to justify Russia’s genocidal invasion of Ukraine which has killed hundreds of thousands of people, and now you’re turning around blaming the victims and the people who are standing behind them for defending themselves? Seriously, get fucked. You and Putin’s evil regime.
I am not justifying anything I am just explaining your ideology. Let me do it for you one more time. Path 1 - negotiate peace long ago, and Ukraine loses. Path 2 - give Ukraine weapons so they can harm russia a little bit at the cost of tens of thousands of Ukrainians, and Ukraine loses with more territory lost.
You have chosen path 2.