Nato members have pledged their support for an “irreversible path” to future membership for Ukraine, as well as more aid.

While a formal timeline for it to join the military alliance was not agreed at a summit in Washington DC, the military alliance’s 32 members said they had “unwavering” support for Ukraine’s war effort.

Nato has also announced further integration with Ukraine’s military and members have committed €40bn ($43.3bn, £33.7bn) in aid in the next year, including F-16 fighter jets and air defence support.

The bloc’s Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said: “Support to Ukraine is not charity - it is in our own security interest.”

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      But they knew from day 1 that Ukraine couldnt win. And now that its obvious to everyone else, what is gained by escallating war, spending billions of dollars and killing hundreds of thousands of people?

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        Everybody thought that Ukraine would fall within a week but it’s been able to go toe to toe with Russia for over two years. Ukraine has every right to defend itself, destroy Russian forces invading it, and join whatever organization it wants. It’s a free sovereign nation. If spending a few billion dollars means we destroy Russia’s capacity to wage war and help Ukraine defend itself, then so be it. Russia can get fucked. They’re the aggressors and they deserve what they’re getting.

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          So long story short, you are okay if a hundred thousand extra Ukrainians die if russia is harmed a bit? That is literally what you are saying, the war could have been over a long long time ago but the west offered weapons and money for them to keep conscripting people to fight a war.

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            Shut the fuck up tankie. You’re sitting here trying to justify Russia’s genocidal invasion of Ukraine which has killed hundreds of thousands of people, and now you’re turning around blaming the victims and the people who are standing behind them for defending themselves? Seriously, get fucked. You and Putin’s evil regime.

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              I am not justifying anything I am just explaining your ideology. Let me do it for you one more time. Path 1 - negotiate peace long ago, and Ukraine loses. Path 2 - give Ukraine weapons so they can harm russia a little bit at the cost of tens of thousands of Ukrainians, and Ukraine loses with more territory lost.

              You have chosen path 2.

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                No dumbass, it’s more like this:

                Path 1 - Russia doesn’t invade and leaves Ukraine the fuck alone

                Path 2 - Russia invades, turns itself into a pariah state, and gets fucked up by Ukraine

                Russia chose path 2 and they’re paying the price for it. Ukraine is not the wrong, the West is not in the wrong, only Russia is. The only thing Ukraine and the West didn’t do wrong is that they haven’t fucked Russia hard enough yet.

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                  Uh… Ukraine is going to lose, its not in question, but you are the one that wants more people to die to harm a country that shouldnt matter to the US. Life is not a movie, sometimes the guy you like loses.

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                    Tankies are truly the most retarded creatures in existence. Not only is Russia getting fucked over in Ukraine, but Russia is the one and ONLY aggressor in this conflict. You can smack your empty head against the wall until it cracks, this basic truth isn’t changing. Now go enjoy your “world’s second military” getting absolutely wrecked by a smaller, poorer, weaker country that you invaded as a part of a “3 day operation” that lasted over two years. Russia is winning my ass.