Next in line
Don’t give the DNC ideas
It’s depressingly funny that this isn’t necessarily a far-fetched possibility
It’s not a bad one
Nah, I think we should give it to President Brandon.
Who has a better story than Bran the Broken?
Peanut farm man good-ish. Orange man bad.
How about shut up about this until elections are over? Yes, you’re all right about this, Biden is an old fart that should not be president. President should not be older than 65, period.
But there is Trump, and that, well, trumps all. Trump CANNOT become president afian, period
You cannot will away reality. No amount of willful ignorance will make undecided people vote for Biden.
And so they’ll vote for a guy who said multiple times he’ll turn the US into a dictatorship? The guy who has project 2025 for his policies to make it a theocratic dictatorship?
Yeah Biden is demented and senile but at this point I’d prefer a soft boiled egg over trump.
But looking at Trump’s plans will.
You’re assuming people are going to do that well, or at all.
You got a point there.
Sure, that’s not the point though. If someone is opposed to voting for Biden because of his age then ignoring the problem will not make them magically more inclined to vote for Biden.
If we’re fighting for our future then we should have the best candidate, not the default option.
Why would the quality of his opponent make me vote for a corpse? Biden isnt going to be cognizant enough to serve his term, if hes even alive. And certainly no president at all is worse than trump
So you’re okay with attempting to elect a demented old man? When democracy is on the line? That’s crazy.
He could be replaced. If only we were allowed to have that conversation……………………………………………………
How about YOU shut up and let us have the conversation. Your way gets Trump elected. We are trying to save America here.
It’s ultimately Biden’s decision. If he doesn’t want out, he has the power to dig in and make it difficult.
This is a democracy bro, we dont have kings. If you and biden want a monarchy, go turn traitor and join the red coats. Here in america, Biden doesnt get to be ruler just because he says he is.
Save America by making people too apathetic to vote for the only thing that could save America?
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Whataboutism
Whataboutism only applies as a logical fallacy when used to avoid defense of the original accusation.
There is no avoidance here, they fully agree that Biden is old etc. etc.
Whataboutism does not apply.
No he’s right. Shouting about Trump as a deflection from valid criticism of Biden is a classic whataboutism.
Comparing two candidates for a position is not a logical fallacy.
Using whataboutism to deflect from the criticisms of one is.
Again, criticism was acknowledged.
And then discarded with a whataboutism.
Can you go into detail? What’s the criticism that you think is being deflected?EDIT: nah, I’m just going to stick with my initial assertion. Comparing two candidates for a position is not a logical fallacy. Do you agree?
If that was the conversation then yes. But when the conversation is about party A fucking up then bringing party B into it is whataboutism. It’s the literal definition of a whataboutism.
No. It’s a complete misunderstanding of whataboutism.
Whataboutism is when you point to another similar situation and say “what about that”.
Examples…
A non-whataboutism - Biden is old, but we absolutely cannot have trump, a self proclaimed wannabe dictator, become president.
A whataboutism - Biden is old. Yeah, but trump is old too!
There is nowhere that defines whataboutism with that restriction. You guys are so deep in the sand you’re pulling out literal propaganda techniques to manufacture consent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
Here try this^^
Or just google “what is a whataboutism” and take your pick.
Basically, take the argument against you, and accuse your opposition, or someone else of the same thing.
The wiki article does not support what you’re saying. It even suggests 2 other methods, accusations of double standards, and hypocrisy. The main point is to distract from the actual conversation by using an accusation.
Actually try reading your sources.
Do you think trump wont be around in 4 years?
President should not be older than 65, period.
Why 65 specifically? Why not 64 or 66?
65 is supposed to be the age of retiremenr for a normal career
65 is supposed to be the age of retiremenr for a normal career
“Supposed to”
In Washington DC it’s 67. In Virginia it’s 61. In 1991 it was 57. It’s based on arbitrary convention, not for any medical reason.
Well, that should be standardized then, and 65 seems like a nice median
Well, that should be standardized then, and 65 seems like a nice median
Based on what?
I’ve known high energy 80 year olds who were sharp as a tack and 50 year olds with early onset dementia or who were just plain nuts to begin with.
This isn’t about age.
Well a law is a hell of a lot harder to enforce if it’s not drawing a line somewhere in the sand, and I’d rather disqualify someone we should than qualify someone we shouldn’t
Perfectly happy to draw a line in the sand, it should just be based on what we care about - competence, intelligence, experience, not being a raging psychopath… that kind of thing. Saying 65 is too old is no better than saying 35 is too young.
Youre entirely right. How exactly will you enforce a law that says “unless youre still sharp as a tack at 80”, though? There has to be a provable line or else the law is meaningless.
65 is a typical pension age. We could make it 60 too, really
Pension… LOL.
Why not 69?
Nice
A) Biden is going to lose to trump. B) The only chance we have to have a living president thats not trump is to nominate someone else. Anybody sane has already written off biden as dead. I guarantee you the entire white house staff has.
Yes, Caligula’s horse would be a preferable vote to cast over Trump.
That doesn’t mean a wise opposition to Trump would choose to run Caligula’s horse.
The question of “who to vote against in the general election” and “who is the best candidate to put forward as nominee in the general election” are very different questions.
He would probably do better than Biden at debating Trump too.
Trump: "And what I did is I put three great Supreme Court justices on the court, and they happened to vote in favor of killing Roe v. Wade and moving it back to the states. This is something that everybody wanted. "
Carter: “Eh…cought…wheeze”
Audience: “Yup Carter won that round”George bush jr is only in his 70s
I’m sorry to remind you of this but George Bush jr served two terms
Which is where we first learned that a campaign consisting only of “Vote for me, I’m not that other guy” is doomed to fail.
It worked in 2020.
With VP Jerry Brown:
If we gotta vote for a corpse, might as well vote for the best corpse.
Unironically consider this sometimes…
I don’t want a president beholden to Big Peanut.
You see, unlike his predecessor he did divest himself of his personal businesses before taking office.
Habitat for Humanity is the real deep state
Why do their houses have so few and such small windows? They’re stockpiling the glass to build a huge lens that will focus the sun’s rays to destroy the moon. The resulting storm of superheated asteroids pelting the Earth will destroy many homes, allowing them to swoop in and build new ones for everyone.
You heard it here first.
I did hear it here first, you are absolutely correct about that part.
Everyone else get the fuck away from me, this is the best joke I can stand to hear all day.
Peanuts? Aren’t they related to ACORN?
When I was a child my parents called me Acorn. They even named their dry cleaner after me.
It’s hilarious that he sold his peanut farm so people wouldn’t worry he was self dealing as President. Which is funny because HW Bush just changed the laws so he COULD self deal without divesting in actual wealth.
Dianne Feinstein for VP, LFG!
Can we find a candidate that’s a little less maggot ridden?
Nancy Pelosi is only 84
Bring back Billy Beer
Like I’ve said before, all we need is someone to make it over the finish line before dropping dead
(Sorry I swear I don’t want 45 to be convicted felon 47)
Nah this is pretty funny even in the context of the crisis
It would be funny if it wasn’t a recycled 2016 meme
Same shit, different election year.
I don’t want a president who’s afraid of rabbits.
Leave Jimmy alone 😭 he’s suffered enough from the American political complex.
