Trump has widened his edge in Nevada and Pennsylvania

I am aware that this is one of those things that is so radically out of step with the media narrative that people will come in my comments and say “lol pure copium” “what on earth are you smoking to say something so wrong” “what you are DELUDED how can you even say something that is so RADICALLY DIFFERENT from what the New York Times assured me of”

All I can say is, you are welcome to. We don’t discriminate. Feel free to cite other polls including the ones that ask Trump voters as well as Biden voters whether Biden is too old to be president and other entertaining things other than who they’re going to vote for.

Also, yes, the debate was a pure horrifying shit show. So is getting convicted of 24 felonies, or electing the guy who wants to kill protestors and abolish the Department of Education, and contraception, and the EPA and NOAA, and deploy the military against protestors, and a wide variety of other things that are literally too extreme to list without boring everyone and making me sounding like a crazy person.

  • circuscritic@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    This poll is a notable outlier… The article is basically just a blog post from the polling outfit itself…

    Here’s results on 65 different polls for Michigan:

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/us/elections/polls-president-michigan.html

    The vast majority of polls have Trump leading Michigan, but a lot of those are also within the margin of error and otherwise very close.

    What is with Lemmy’s insistence on pretending that the debate either didn’t hurt Biden, or actually helped him?

    It’s like a lot of people here actually believe that by pretending nothing is wrong, that means nothing is wrong.

    • WhyDoYouPersist@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 months ago

      There are a lot of people more closely related to ostriches than others. I can be denialist about some things but generally am a pessimist so that I can be pleasantly surprised when my predictions come untrue.

    • BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Some people are doubling down as the narrative that criticising biden was akin to supporting trump which was being spouted a lot before the debate.

      It seems a lot of people seem unable to get away from the idea that “biden is too mentally infirm” is a republican talking point and therefore cannot be true. It is a republican talking point but it also is worryingly true.

    • mozz@mbin.grits.devOP
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      2 months ago

      The New York Times is not an unbiased source on this. I would trust almost anything that wasn’t some random person on Twitter, above the NYT’s polling numbers.

      The article is basically just a blog post from the polling outfit itself

      Are you deliberately constructing this to encourage moderator activity against the post? Describing it as a “blog post” is fairly bizarre.

      What is with Lemmy’s insistence on pretending that the debate either didn’t hurt Biden, or actually helped him?

      It’s like a lot of people here actually believe that by pretending nothing is wrong, that means nothing is wrong.

      Was “pure horrifying shit show” not direct enough for you? How would you have preferred I described it when I talked about this? I went into more detail about what I think some solutions might be and my feelings on it, elsewhere in the thread, too.

      Although, I guess, I do understand that the package deal where you tell the person you’re talking to what their opinion is, and then why the thing you made up is wrong, makes it a lot easier to conduct the conversation. Sure, tell me more about why I am pretending nothing is wrong.