I am aware that this is one of those things that is so radically out of step with the media narrative that people will come in my comments and say “lol pure copium” “what on earth are you smoking to say something so wrong” “what you are DELUDED how can you even say something that is so RADICALLY DIFFERENT from what the New York Times assured me of”

All I can say is, you are welcome to. We don’t discriminate. Feel free to cite other polls including the ones that ask Trump voters as well as Biden voters whether Biden is too old to be president and other entertaining things other than who they’re going to vote for.

Also, yes, the debate was a pure horrifying shit show. So is getting convicted of 24 felonies, or electing the guy who wants to kill protestors and abolish the Department of Education, and contraception, and the EPA and NOAA, and deploy the military against protestors, and a wide variety of other things that are literally too extreme to list without boring everyone and making me sounding like a crazy person.

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    If you have a credible plan for how to achieve a third result, let’s fuckin have it.

    here is the fucking plan: the democratic party leadership and biden administration will stop trying to perpetrate fraud on american voters by intentionally hiding health state of current president (because as of right now it is pretty clear that is what they are doing), will stop acting like a mafia, start acting like a DEMOCRATIC party and organize primaries. how about that?

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      Okay, so significantly less likely than Jon Stewart. Got it. Well, if that’s all you’ve got on offer, I plan to shrug my shoulders and vote for the guy who doesn’t want to kill or deport me, and I would recommend that others do and advocate the same.

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        Biden winning this campaign against Trump in bis current condition is looking about as likely as Biden choosing to step down and Stewert stepping into electoral politics

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        yeah, lets vote for demented grandpa who doesn’t remember his own name, because… checks notes… democracy is so unlikely people should just give up 😆

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          If our options are third party or we lose democracy then we’ve already lost democracy and we’re just now figuring it out.

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            We have, to a large functional extent. Democracy requires a free enough press that people can determine what’s going on, which they currently can’t.

            I fail to see how making every aspect of that problem exponentially worse by letting Trump come to power will fix it. Are you under the impression that Trump will have the military seize the voting machines and run the 2028 election, but that third parties will then still be a viable alternative?

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          Therrrrre it is

          I kinda had a feeling that was where this was going.

          Yes. He’s not demented, but even if he was, yes. Vote for Biden, or Kamala Harris, or fuckin Daffy Duck if that’s who’s on the ballot on the other side of Trump.

          Reforming the Democrats so they are not so shit also sounds like a great idea, just unlikely to me to happen in the next few months. But in the meantime, yes. If a bucket of ranch dressing was running as the nominee in November, I would plan to vote for the bucket, because it doesn’t plan to do any mass deportations or have the military seize the voting machines to prevent any improvement of the system in the future that you just claimed is your hope to achieve with all of this.

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            I kinda had a feeling that was where this was going.

            that’s what the debate is about since the debate (pun intended), but good on you for having a feeling, you just discovered the true meaning of xmas, detective 😂

            Reforming the Democrats so they are not so shit also sounds like a great idea, just unlikely to me to happen in the next few months.

            yes, it would be lot of work in short time, that is not the reason not to do it.

            But in the meantime, yes. If a bucket of ranch dressing was running as the nominee in November, I would plan to vote for the bucket

            problem is that bucket might win, biden will likely lose.