KEVIN ROBERTS (HERITAGE FOUNDATION PRESIDENT): In spite of all this nonsense from the left, we are going to win. We’re in the process of taking this country back. No one in the audience should be despairing.
No one should be discouraged. We ought to be really encouraged by what happened yesterday. And in spite of all of the injustice, which, of course, friends and audience of this show, of our friend Steve know, we are going to prevail.
Number two, to the point of the clips and, of course, your preview of the fact that I am an early American historian and love the Constitution. That Supreme Court ruling yesterday on immunity is vital, and it’s vital for a lot of reasons. But I would go to Federalist No. 70.
You know if there were ever a group of people that deserved to fully understand what it means to be firebombed it’s the fucking heritage foundation.
The federalist society is right there with them.
Cot damn bro… a bit extreme, no?
Not in the slightest.
They and the federalist society are the ones pushing the absolutely disgusting changes the Republican party is trying to make. They give the “short list” of judges for Republicans presidents to choose from. They are fully responsible for the shit we’re about to go through now that their project is almost complete.
Do high crimes demand extreme punishments?
Treason? Yeah on an individual basis. Home boy here and his upvoters supports firebombing humans. Imagine saying the same chit about AIPAC or the ADL? lol smh.
Anyway, if you guys want to support literal acts of terrorism, good luck on your future prospects.
I hear ya, but we also know the window for legally resolving this constitutional crisis is quickly closing. So I take this talk as sort of, “this is where we are heading if things don’t change”. I don’t support the coming of these times, but I do want to highlight the urgency. We do not want a version of “The Troubles” like the Irish did.
Everything that’s been tried up to the extreme has had no effect, so, it’s time to escalate. You can’t beat cheaters and liars and thieves and murderers by playing by the rules and being nice and polite. If the Democrats don’t do something, democracy is gone in November and it won’t be coming back to the USA.
You got downvoted for this? Damn, Lemmy, you never fail to disappoint me.
Bro, this is a weird place. I was just commenting about how Google sucks for searching up solutions to technical issues I come across at work, so I utilize AI. People got hostile and my comments deleted. I can’t wrap my head around some of the communities.
Did your parents make it through the closed borders while that happened?
My grandparents came to the U.S. and became citizens through the legal route.
You do realize when people say, “close the border”, the message is to literally close off the U.S. border with a wall. There’s nothing wrong with immigrants coming to this country through the legal channels.
The echo chamber here can be a bit too strong, just like Reddit. I wish Lemmy would stop mass downvoting simple questions, even if they disagree with it.
Don’t forget the John Birch society
Id also add PragerU to that list, though thats mostly cause they are dangerous and annoying.
They for sure belong but I think they are mostly powered by the other think tanks mentioned
Its an incestuous relationship between them, they feed into eachother. If it wasnt for PragerU and similar propagandistic groups the upper think tanks would be a lot weaker in influence, then once they have more power they immediately dump it into the propagandists who can spread their influence farther
Im personally in the if you wipe out the propaganda arms ya will have an infinitely easier time, Fox, OAN, PragerU, and talk radio as a whole not to mention Youtubers are basically the only thing maintaining the on the ground elements of the Right wing. They fet bored easily and would probably just do boring normal crap if you stripped away the propaganda, hell they may get happier in some cases a car parts store in my area changed out fox news on the TV in favor of a super playlist of youtube videos going over old weird cars like Yugos and Polskis. This has limited the rightwing grousing in there.
100% agree with you, only contention I would make is that none of those propaganda outlets would exist without the societies that preceded them by a few decades. But from a dismantling their power perspective you are quite on point about destroying their implements of radicalization
Not yet, I figure it will take at least another year, year and a half, tops.
Subby should have included the whole quote that Media Matters truncated.
“We are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.”
Translation, let us turn this country into the Republic of Gilead or we will kill you.
This is the same logic Nazis used. The narrative was that Jews forced their hand by refusing to comply with their demands.
Make no mistake, this is a promise of bloodshed. They just want to sound like they want peace and that they’ll have to kill to get it.
Kill them first.
These people are terrorists
Non-state actors who use violence or the threat of violence to achieve political aims.
Yup, checks all the boxes.
I’d say that’s slightly off. Most terrorists have no intention of actually ruling the regions they terrorize.
These people are more fascists.
Fair
So they’re openly admitting to a coup attempt.
There’s no quiet part anymore, it’s all just loud.
There’s apparently some people in the back who still can’t hear it. Somewhere around 20-40% of the US population.
You are mistaking “want to hear it” for “can’t hear it”
god I hate conservatives. These people are pure evil
How come the people who say they need automatic weapons to defend themselves from their government at the same time cheer for giving their government absolute power?
They also don’t understand how important drones are going to be.
Because they don’t want freedom for all. They want to rule over others.
Most people dreaming of conflict do.
Not me, I just have ADHD and seek conflicts to not get bored.
An Unelected Organization run by Billionaires in the shadows applauding a Republican Court’s ruling is the EXACT PROOF that DEMOCRATS are the DEEP STATE!
It was always projection.
…in the process of taking this country backWARDS.
I despair. Fuck him and all of them.
At some point in time people are going to be killed.
Are going to, you say?
Already happened, friend.
Or did you forget what a shitshow Trump’s first term was?
People literally died because of him.
People literally died because of him.
More to come, many more.
This would be more widespread and far worse.
Conservatives have poisoned the soapbox with propaganda and outright lies.
They’ve diluted the ballot box with electoral politics and various tactics of disenfranchisement.
They’ve completely corrupted the jury box with unqualified ideologues.
How does America survive this without resorting to the last box? All because a group of assholes who have more than they could ever need want even more than that.
Like, you gotta think outside the box…maaaan. 🚬
We are down to the cartridge box.
It’s not as if the right wing goons haven’t been killing the decent people already.
We are in the process of becoming a shit-hole nation.
The Heritage Foundation is a terrorist organization and an existential threat to the United States that must be destroyed.
Agreed. I wish Biden would announce they are all being arrested and tried for treason. Same for the cons on the “supreme” court.
In Guantanamo
There are fire worse blacksites than Gitmo, cant name any of em cause they are blacksites.
I think it’s time we recognized the threat to democracy that think tanks and political non profits pose.
Robert Evans did a two parter of Behind the Bastards on this exact topic. I think they were titled, How Conservatism Won
Yupp, love that pod cast.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/4w0lx3QNiuuek1SHmKQ0Tc?si=eB7CG99mQ-i3TUKkcd98Fg
The president is immune for any act he is authorized to perform: an “official” act. Any act he is not authorized to perform is an “unofficial” act. The immunity ruling doesn’t even slow down the criminal prosecutions against him. It’s not even a speed bump.
you guys are going to have to vote like your lives depends on it, coz it probably does. at what point does this become civil war? it feels like you guys are in a death spiral, and the only way out of it is to literally take out the other side. honestly if the rest of the world has to come over there and bash your heads together we’ll be properly pissed good luck We’re all going to need Trump to lose signed, The World
And instead of gracefully resigning due to his obvious mental decline and nominating someone else at the convention, Biden has decided he’ll take us all down with him.
We heard this bullshit when Joe Biden ran in 2020. Yet Biden has done a remarkable job. Both Republicans and Democrats prefer his policies.
He was literally four years younger in 2020.
We all saw the debate. 🙄
We saw Biden is still old.
Trump is still a threat.
Nothing has changed.
Yeah, and we defeated Medicare.
People aren’t going to vote for this. The country is fucked if they don’t replace him at the Convention.
Poll numbers have changed, 3/4 of voters say Biden is too old for the job.
Of course not, not with reductionist logic like that. If you watch his 2020 debate and 2024 debate the difference is very clear. Day and Night.
And he proved himself capable in 2020. At this age that assumption does not carry forward and the debate performance in 2024 is disqualifying in many people’s eyes.
He’s no longer the best chance to beat Trump.
Please send help. Please. Help us rest of world, you’re our only hope.
Yeah no. No one is going to intervene on your private continent where there’s three guns per person. And unless those countries fancy getting friendlier with China, they’ll just hold their noses when they deal with Trump. Like they did 2016 to 2020.
You’ve got the means already; get your guns, beans, and gasoline. And if you care about American democracy, and these chuckle-fucks try to kill it, then you’re going to have to fight for it
Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that, but good luck.
The more infighting the US has, the less resources they have to bomb brown people. So go at it!
They allowed their governments to get away with way too much shit, time to pay up.
That is a likeable conclusion for us non-western people, but eventually these white christian nationalist supremacists will openly wage crusade instead of still pretending not doing it. Breather from American bombs and militant group funding would definitely be welcome, but gotta make the best with that time before their focus turns outwards once again. If it comes to that in the first place, of course.
Yeah, you kinda gotta think about it…if the US falls, it won’t fail and die, it will become evil. What side do you want them to be on in this next big war brewing? The world wars with the US on the other side seems rough for every good and decent person. Hell, Ukraine would be in a bad spot if the US was actively fighting along side the orks…well, Ukraine would be West-russia already, and that isn’t even intending to speak ill of the Ukrainian heroes, it is just a shitty hypothetical reality. The US a big greedy resource vacuum that lets their corporations push them to meddle in world affairs, but they are also the insane PTSD soldier turned cop of the classroom keeping the other bully kids in line. It is a weird place to be, but the US feels like a floodgate that is tolerated, because without it, we have real bad things in the waters it holds back. So frustrating.
it will become evil.
So nothing will fundamentally change?
You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.
We’ll get “help” after we lose WWIII and West America is controlled by China and East America is controlled by the EU.
“We’ve tried nothing all we’re all out of ideas!”
Yeah right.
The only super power in the world “in need of external help.”
We dug ourselves into this hellhole, we must get ourselves out of it
Why tbe fuck isn’t this ringing any alarm bells in this country?
Biden should do an official act at the Heritage Foundation.
DROOOOOONEEEEE STRIIIIKEEE…there is precedent for Official use of drones against terrorists in the past!
The military swears allegiance to the Constitution, to protect and defend the country from BOTH foreign AND domestic threats. Well the domestic threat is pretty apparent.
“I did that”
