I’m having some personal issues causing some severe depression and anxiety. I’d like to get past this time as fast as possible, and my days are dragging on. I can’t sleep, which would be a good way to make time go fast. But I also can’t just play video games, I don’t have the motivation to play more than a few minutes and it also just makes me realize how alone I am with no friends or anyone I can connect with emotionally and I spiral into my anxiety and depression.

I can do stuff during the day, run, chores, etc. But as soon as I’m done, especially at night, I start freaking out and it seems like time stands still. Does anyone have any suggestions? Activities I can do that are mindless that will just kill time and get me through the night before I can just go to sleep?

I know this question is stupid but I’m looking for at least somewhat serious answers.

  • Potatisen@lemmy.world
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    Do more things, start doing something at home that will take a long time and keep doing it until you’re so tired you can’t keep going.

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      That’s kind of exactly what I’m asking. What kinds of things would fall under that?

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        What are you into?

        Learn to draw? Build/make something?

        Learn to program?

        Shoot videos with your phone and learn to edit (davinci resolve is a free editing software). Shoot whatever, little stories/vlogs/clips for friends.

        Clean everything in your house, inside the fridge, the whole shower (above/below), dust the walls, go through your closet/drawers/bookshelfs/etc. The places you’d never otherwise pat attention to.

        Move furniture in your home and reorganize the layout of your stuff.

        Learn to cook, really dig into how to make sauces, properly cook steaks/fish/etc. Practice cutting veggies and perfect your knife skills.

        I mean, there’s a million things to do.

      • 🅿🅸🆇🅴🅻@lemmy.world
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        Paint a wall in a certain pattern, using multiple colors. It needs time for planning, time for buying tools, and time for execution.

        Fix something. Replace dying batteries for electronics, take a look around the house, anything you can find parts on ifixit for. It requires focus and skill, gives you a sense of pride and accomplishment, and you benefit from your items longer. Also cheaper in the long run.

        Tinker around the house. There’s always something broken or in a bad condition. Repaint stuff, reapply stuff.

        Build something with your hands. Try woodworking.

        Gardening unfortunately is usually done outside and during the day, but you could try indoors hydroponics or vertical gardening. Try to automatize it.

        Learn programming. Learn hobby electronics. Arduino is easy to learn and requires both. Could help with the automatization above. You can find cheap clones and parts. You mainly work with DC under 12V, so it’s relatively safe.

        Be curious. Watch Youtube videos about any subject you might find interesting, learn how stuff works, no matter how familiar or not they are. A lot of times I don’t have the patience to watch a show, but I find myself getting into a Youtube / Wikipedia rabbit hole about cryptography, programming, how games are made, how mechanical pinball machines work, lockpicking, painting, large buildings fails, quantum physics, astrophysics, photography.

        Watch Cosmos, presented by Neil deGrasse Tyson.

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    You need to sort our bed time routine out.

    Don’t do anything in bed other than sleep (or sex). Go to bed try to sleep, if you don’t sleep get up and go to another room and come back in half an hour, an hour whatever it takes. Try sleep again if that doesn’t work after a bit get up again. I actually find going for a pee and trying again works surprisingly well. Take your TV out of your room, don’t use your phone in bed, don’t exercise in your bedroom and don’t exercise late and night.

    Try the military sleep method.

    If you want time to waste on something, do a jigsaw or scale model.

    Join a board game group.

    Watch The World at war 1973. Best ww2 doc ever made and its 26 episodes long. That will waste some time.

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    Im a huge advocate for fitness and diet for people who are having trouble with mental health. Because it gives you something you can nerd out on, control, research and if it sticks its a huge net positive for your life.

    Figuring out your macros, setting yourself a step goal, designing a functional diet, doing some basic weight training even with just bodyweight exercises.

    It also has the advantage of quite often leaving you tired at the end of the day. I can recommend some resources if you like.

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      People say exercise makes your brain grow. But that’s the wrong way to look at it. Sitting around all day makes your brain atrophy.

      It’s so hard to be mentally healthy when your brain atrophies.

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    When I need to sleep and can’t, my go to is a relatively mindless game that I’ve gotten exceedingly good at automating my way through. Something like Sudoku, solitaire (specifically Klondike), or something. Usually on a digital device so I don’t have to move too much to play and I don’t have to worry about physical cards, shuffling, etc.

    If it’s a particularly bad night I can pair that with some music. I find either ambient trance or something similar, to be the best for this. One of my favorite “go the fuck to sleep” albums is called “Dreamland” by Robert Miles (may he rest in peace). Alternatively, I find nature/rain/thunderstorm sounds to be particularly calming for me, though YMMV. The calm pitter-patter of raindrops falling seems to really put me in a sleeping mood.

    Combining these generally gets me ready to snooze the fastest. The other option I have is mediation, but you need to be practiced at getting into the right headspace for it to be effective. Meditation isn’t really what you’re after since you have said that basically sitting around with nothing going on is when you start to panic, which is generally how mediation begins, so I’m not sure it will be super helpful.

    The only additional advice, which is a bit of an offshoot from the mediation thing, is that trying to not think is a contradiction. You can’t try not to do something; unless you have some issues with impulse control, the “act” of not doing something is the antithesis of trying. You can’t try to clear your mind, you clear your mind by not thinking, if you’re thinking about clearing your mind, then that’s a thought which, if present, precludes you having a clear mind.

    You have to stop thinking, not just try to put things out of your mind, but stop all active thought and analysis. It is way easier to say, than it is to do, and I wouldn’t pretend it’s easy at all. I learned how to do this through meditation, and it’s a fat departure from how you normally operate mentally, and not an easy thing to achieve. One of the strategies I’ve used is when your brain assaults you with a thought, you recognise it’s existence, but refuse to interact/engage/analyse it at all, and just let that wash over you, and into oblivion. Again, easier said than done. Not allowing your thoughts to latch onto ideas and allowing your mind to be quiet, without commenting on, about, or examining every passing thought, does not come naturally.

    I think of it a bit like this: take the example of your mind being a street in a busy city, every individual on the street is an independent thought you might engage with. This idea is a bit like sitting by yourself and watching everything around you without getting involved. Someone walks past screaming about some topic, like how the world is going to end and you just watch them walk by and don’t comment on the matter. You recognise they’re there, you just don’t get involved. Your passive demeanor does not and should not imply you either agree, nor disagree with their statements or viewpoint, you are just present, observing them making a scene. Eventually they move on to yell about it in another location and you give it no further thought.

    I hope that makes sense. Of course, modern society with all the social interactions we have, whether online or in person, always gives us the option to engage in discussion about everything and we’re often encouraged to do so. People will outright ask for your opinion when having IRL conversations at times, which is a prime example of this conditioning. If you’re able to break away from the need to have an opinion on everything and anything that crosses your path, and value people’s opinions exactly as much as required, which isn’t much, then you can break free, and you don’t have to bother yourself with everyone’s opinion and making yours heard. IMO, there’s no value in sharing your opinion, especially when the recipient of that opinion has their own opinion which obviously will not change based on what you could say, so why bother even having one? It takes mental effort and time away from what’s important to you to engage in such trivialities, when the outcome is unaffected by anything you think or say. Why invest the time and effort having an opinion when nobody cares what your opinion is enough to for it to have any impact on what happens? This isn’t a value statement about you or your opinion, this is a value statement about any would be recipient of your opinion, they don’t care, that’s a problem, but it’s a problem for them to solve; your opinion is valid, and if they can’t see the validity in your opinion, why waste your time and effort creating one just so they can ignore it.

    You cannot control the actions of others. You can’t change what they care about. Both of these things are issues that the opposing individual must address about themselves, that you have no way to change about them. Save yourself the grief, and just don’t bother with it. It sounds like you have enough on your plate, you don’t need to add their crap to your pile.

    With all that being said, it’s a radical departure from the accepted social “norm” so it’s a lot of stuff that’s easier said than done. I’m sorry that you are going through this. I don’t know all the details and I don’t have the answers; but I’ve been though some rough shit, and it always sucks. I value you and your opinion, so if you want to reply, I’ll be happy to hear anything you wish to share. IMO, it sucks right now but the fact that you’re reaching out to anyone for help is a positive sign. Do not be afraid to ask for the help you require, it is not a sign of weakness to need help, it is a sign of strength and character to recognise that you require assistance and you are willing to ask for that assistance. It’s brave and demonstrates a strong understanding of when you are unable to handle things alone.

    We all need a little help sometimes. If you want to DM me, to inquire further on anything I’ve said, or to simply rant/vent, or if you just want to chat about technology (or literally anything) as a means of distraction, I’m happy to oblige. I believe my matrix account is linked to Lemmy, so that’s also an option.

    All the best OP.

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    It’s not the right choice, but alcohol has been doing well for me for this.

    Dad died last year due to what I feel is my fault…

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      We all feel like it was our fault. The coulda/shoulda will eat you. Find something else to occupy your brain.

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      Using alcohol as a self-medicating behavior caused me more pain, ruined relationships, lost me jobs, etc. than anything else. Stay the fuck away.

    • Weed also works extremely efficiently at making doing nothing enjoyable. I heard opioids also make doing jack shit easy.

      I dont recommend any of these as a solution see my above comment but this will work if ur ready to commit yourself to a homless miserable life offering blowies for $5 and a pack of smokes.

      Then again worse case scenario killing oneself is always an option, ita not a good one i ask you please dont under any circumstances do so. But it would make time pass exceedingly quickly (well depending on ur religion or if u have one etc)

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        I heard opioids also make doing jack shit easy.

        Opiods and benzos help. That is something that will likely happen this month but I only have so many. And it only helps because it’s a change. If I took them every day I’d just need more and shit. So, those will come and help me sleep when I need it, not an every day thing.

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      Alcohol will temporarily alleviate anxiety and then make it much much worse. I do not recommend this at all. I’m sorry to hear you’re having a rough time.

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      Not OP but I personally don’t have enough patience to read entire book. I just can’t. I don’t know how other people read whole book in few days.

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        If I am super interested in a book that I got as a gift, I will tear through it in a few days. That being said, I’ve probably read like 4 adult books since being out of school. Plenty of kids books over the years, (I had mastered Fox in Socks at one point.)

        It takes a lot for me to take that much time on a book.

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        Audiobooks. Libby app for local library and countless audiobooks already covered by your library card.

        I’ve listened to/read so many books. Short ones that are 4 hours or so to entire series where each book is about 20 hours or so.

        Long drive? Audiobook. Yard work? Audiobook.

        I find myself looking forward to the mundane chores because it gives me an excuse to get back into whatever story/book I’m enjoying.

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        Start with Short Stories or novellas. A whole story from beginning to end in as short as 3 pages or as many as 30 or so. There are entire books of short stories (anthologies) in every genre you can imagine. You say you don’t have the patience. However, in the time its taken you to read this entire thread, you could have finished a short story. You’ve proven you have the patience.

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        I’m the same. I read super slow, and I just don’t enjoy it really. Audiobooks are hard for me too. I like podcasts sometimes, and I read a lot of articles and stuff like that. But books are just too much for me.

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          Have you ever tried listening to hardcore history by Dan Carlin? I find he’s the right level of captivating to keep me interested, but slow enough that I can still drift off to sleep

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    Podcasts maybe? That’s my most braindead activity. It’s an easy thing to do in bed while trying to sleep too.

    Time also goes by faster at night if youre tired so getting some exercise during the day might help.

    Good luck, hope things pick up for you soon.

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      Time also goes by faster at night if youre tired so getting some exercise during the day might help.

      I do a ton of exercise during the day. You’d think I’d be tired at night and able to sleep, but nope. Doesn’t matter how many miles I run or walk or hike.

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    How about chess? I know you said you are not really looking for video games, but chess to me is a bit different to video games.

    I had a similar problem to you a few years ago during Covid. I was very stressed and lonely and didn’t know what to do with myself. I am completely addicted to chess now. To the point that I play for like 4-8h a night sometimes. Time passes fast, especially in the shorter time modes. And if you are looking for a more low stakes, slow paced distraction you can play correspondents chess and think about your next move for 1.5 hours. Bonus: if i tell people that i play chess over an hour every day, they often assume i am a genius, even tho I’m just a 800 elo idiot like most people

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    I have a few suggestions that have helped me!

    One is doing puzzles, physical or video games. I like problem solving a lot since it keeps me from ruminating. Sometimes it feels really good to work on a jigsaw puzzle and just zone out with some music.

    Knitting and crochet is another. Just be careful with your hands and neck if you’re doing it for a long time. There’s some great tutorials online and you can into it pretty cheaply with inexpensive yarns. Plus, you’ll end up with a neat blanket/scarf.

    Complex cooking is another option. If you like food, try making some of the cuisines you love at home. The research and actual time into making stuff from scratch is intense. People who bake fancy bread end up spending a lot of time perfecting recipes.

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    My suggestion is to spend maybe half an hour in the evening learninga new hobby/skill, then when you’re in bed go over what you learnt in that half hour in your mind to cement it. You’ll find that just running over the knowledge in your mind induces the “counting sheep” effect and will help you drift off to sleep.

    If it doesn’t work, then at least you’ll learn a new skill much quicker!

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      Kind of the wrong direction there. I WANT to sleep, but I can’t.

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    Get a job in building construction.

    You work hard, you work together with people, you start your day early and you get tired in the evening.

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      I do a similar thing, melatonin but I’ll put on TV. Simpsons, futurama, bob’s burgers are all good sleep shows.

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      I actually have started therapy. But it’s only once a week. So that doesn’t really help the time aspect. That’s more of a long game

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    Would you consider volunteering at an animal shelter? Doing good for others helps you feel less bad about yourself.

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      I actually occasionally do volunteer at a shelter. It’s a good idea, but I’m mostly asking about things to do once all the available “activities” are over. Let’s say, starting at 9pm or so