Here we go, the first Presidential debate between Biden and Trump begins at 9 PM Eastern/6 PM Pacific.
How to watch it:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/25/politics/how-to-watch-cnn-debate/index.html
"The CNN Presidential Debate will air live on CNN, CNN International and CNN en Español, and via streaming on Max for subscribers and without a cable login on CNN.com. CNN will make the debate available to simulcast on additional broadcast and cable news networks.
You can also follow CNN’s live debate coverage on CNN.com, which will include analysis and fact checking."
"According to parameters set by CNN in May, all participating debaters had to appear on a sufficient number of state ballots to reach the 270 electoral vote threshold to win the presidency and receive at least 15% in four separate national polls of registered or likely voters that meet CNN’s standards for reporting.
Polls that meet those standards are those sponsored by CNN, ABC News, CBS News, Fox News, Marquette University Law School, Monmouth University, NBC News, The New York Times/Siena College, NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist College, Quinnipiac University, The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Post."
Edit And that’s it! Thanks for watching everyone!
tl;dw:
Consensus is Trump didn’t so much as beat Biden as Biden beat himself.
The real loser is CNN who failed to fact check anyone, and there were obvious fact checks on both sides.
Did Trump just lament that we couldn’t “stop Israel”?
I assume he meant “what happened in Israel” lol
Thanks Obama and capitalism. Without the Obama’s behind the scenes phone call bullshit intervention in the last primary which ended up giving us Biden we would have had Bernie as the president and none of this would have happened.
I’m tapping out for my sanity
Biden is hammering home a lot of important shit. I’d say he’s warmed up by now.
Though him lying that Hamas is the only group that wants war between Israel and Palestine was a disgusting, vile lie, when it’s been constantly reported that Netenyahu and those around him are rabidly in favor of continuing it
Well, Biden’s Charlottesville attack on Trump wasn’t too bad all things considered, Trump did deflect of course, but maybe it invigorated the old fart.
Trump is flailing now. It’s a double sundown debate.
I’m going to vote for policy, not a person. I don’t agree with Trump on anything, so I’ll vote for Biden.
Afraid to watch thanks for summarizing for me yall lol
The elimination of the First Past the Post voting system would allow voters to support third-party candidates without the fear of causing a spoiler effect. This change would promote greater competition in elections, improving the caliber of candidates available to all voters. Also, it is likely to boost voter turnout and increase political engagement.
Electoral reform has already been achieved at the state level; Alaska and Maine have successfully implemented changes to their electoral systems, demonstrating that broader reform is feasible.
However, Republicans have taken steps to preserve the First Past the Post voting system. For instance, Florida recently outlawed Ranked Choice voting. Despite this setback, there are numerous alternatives to First Past the Post, ensuring that bans like Florida’s do not obstruct progress toward electoral reform.
This raises the question: why do predominantly Democratic states continue to utilize First Past the Post voting? Why continueto use a voting system favored by Republicans? In states controlled by Democrats, there are no Republican obstacles preventing these reforms.
It is evident that Democrats recognize the shortcomings of First Past the Post voting. Mentioning third-party voting on social media often prompts numerous Democrats to caution against “wasting” votes that could inadvertently benefit Republicans. It is perplexing to acknowledge flaws in the voting system yet fail to take action to address them. Lecturing others about the drawbacks of First Past the Post voting while neglecting to pursue solutions is contradictory and counterproductive.
Here are some videos on the topic if you’d like to know more:
First Past The Post voting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo
Other electoral systems to choose from:
Alternative vote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y3jE3B8HsE
Ranked Choice voting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z2fRPRkWvY
Range Voting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3GFG0sXIig
Single Transferable Vote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8XOZJkozfI
STAR voting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-mOeUXAkV0
Mixed Member Proportional representation
I’m kind of reminder that West Wing episode, where Leo McGarry keeps leaking stories about how bad he’s going to be. That seem to be exactly what Trump did this last week or two. Or the people around Trump probably. Cuz as much as he’s lying piece of shit he’s staying on his message, which admittedly I wasn’t sure he could do. On the other hand Joe Biden is a train wreck. This is extremely demoralizing.
His message is blatant lies and ignoring the prompt.
Biden is debating. trump is giving an unhinged speech.
Yeah of course that’s his message, what are you new here?
So, does this mean we’ll have an even larger conservative SCOTUS majority?
We Iranians are going to get Pezeshkian and you Americans are going to get Trump
FUN 4 YEARS COMING BOYS
This is promising. Trump just lies (surprised face), Biden just exaggerates or makes small speaking errors. (Among all the brain farts and studdering)
I watched some of it. Super embarrassing for Biden. Added all the fodder Fox needs to make edits and clips until the end of time.
Let’s say Biden doesn’t make it to the election. Who would the democrats put forward? Harris?
Replacing Biden with a cop would be the most DNC thing imaginable. We’re so fucked.
Gavin Newsome has been positioning himself to be able to run.
Harris would likely be the DNC pick and she has a lower favorability rating than Biden.
Yeah. It is a rock and a hard place. On the one hand, replacing her is acknowledging Biden administration failed. On the other hand, she is a brown she.
But his administration hasn’t failed. It’s been immensely successful.
I’m voting for Biden still bc Trump is a piece of shit, but Biden is coming off old and weak in this debate. Trump is lying his ass off about everything and not getting called out on any of it, and because he’s spouting so much of it so quickly rapid-fire, it’s obfuscating and confusing the issues.
Yeah watched after his last rant the moderater said he had 37 seconds to answer the actual question asked and then allowed him to rant for another fucking minute and half. Then gave Biden 30 seconds to give a weak ass answer.
Why is Biden acting like he doesn’t know where he is? What the fuck.
It’s a torrent of bs from trump. It comes out so fast that there’s no way to cover it all and still get facts out along with future policy statements.
Gish gallop.