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      Not pardoning him would piss them off more and gives them zero firepower on the topic…

      Edit: legitimate firepower anyways…they would still claim some bullshit about he’s a bad dad and doesn’t protect his son or some garbage like that.

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        Honestly, there’s a contingent who would dislike him less if he used a pardon to protect his son

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          See those people don’t actually like corruption, they just like winning. If they lose then corruption is bad, if they win then it’s just being clever. So they’d still hate him, probably moreso.

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    He won’t need to. They’re in the wealthy class so the son won’t get much jail time if any. Nobody interested in hiring him would give a fuck about this conviction.

    We have a two-tier system. It has been obvious for a while, but Donald getting $1,000 scoldings for sending Trumpanzees after the court’s staff and family has shone a spotlight on the discrepancy.

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      Pretty sure the judge had his hands tied for the max fine he could dole out to Trump. Still a problem that should be fixed but it’s not cause of the judge.

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      There’s always been a 2-tier system, through all nations and all times.

      One of my favorite parts of Noble House, set in 1840s Hong Kong, was a Chinese guy disgusted with the English notion of “equal under the law”. “Of course there are different laws for the rich and poor! Why else would I strive to be rich?!”

      I think on that now and again.

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        I sympathize with being sick of bothsidesers, but I don’t think that’s what I’m doing here. The justice system is unfair as it is. Dems aren’t doing enough but Repubs want to make it even worse. If youths came out to vote in every election we wouldn’t be stuck with these two choices, but there is very clearly just one sane choice.

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          If youths came out to vote in every election

          They did, and their candidate lost anyway. Too many olds spread across too many districts.

          Maybe if you can convince a few hundred thousand Youngs to move to Wyoming…

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            Every election. The parties cannot count on the youth vote. They both seem to be acting like they don’t care what youths want. I am assuming a correlation there. Unfortunately it’s correlating in both directions.

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        It isn’t a “both sides” thing, it is a class thing. The wealthy never face consequences unless they personally perform some heinous act, and even then it isn’t guaranteed.

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        A leftist that points out inequality inherent in the system? What a strange thing to encounter on Lemmy. I’m positively flummoxed as to how this came about.

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          If you ask anyone from .ml, I’m not even a leftist. I am pretty dead set against Donald, whereas they (and Bibi) want Donald elected.

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              I want that. The ones telling people to vote for Jill Stein don’t want less genocide, they want Donald and more genocide. They want Ukraine to lose all support also.

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          Leftists carrying water for fascists? Definitely not a strange thing to encounter both on Lemmy and in history.

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    I feel like if the shoe was on the other foot (Don Jr in trouble) Trump is bitch and moan that it was politically motivated and a witch hunt and then pardon him.

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      Feels like he’d only act if was Ivanka or something that would also cause trouble for him. Trump isn’t afraid of dumping anyone

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        Like a real crime boss, Trump never, ever dumps on family. No one else is safe, but the wife and kids are sacrosanct.

        Now that I think on it, the man does indeed seem to have a single moral. How odd I’m just now seeing it.

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      Just like that moron did with other criminals that should not have been pardoned. BTW now that that piece of shit is a convicted felon, we should start to undo anything he ever touched while in office. All those pardons he did, send them the fuck back to prison. Just like how crooked cops have their previous cases under scrutiny.

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        You realize the office of the US President is involved in important things in the world, and isn’t just a vehicle for revenge against a former President?

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          isn’t just a vehicle for revenge against a former President?

          Trump is the one who needs to learn that lesson

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        Yeah! Time for Afghanistan 2! /j But for real, we can’t just broad brush this thing. While most of it was shit, probably several things were decent things that got through in spite of the administration’s ineptitude.

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      One of the few cronies he didn’t pardon was Cohen, and look how that worked out for him, lol.

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    Why does Joe Biden not simply say the Deep State arrested his Son and then Pardon him and Blame any and all NEGATIVE Media on the Deep State too?

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    Does he need to for what is likely to result in the standard well-to-do white guy punishment of a small fine and community service?

    And when he does, watch a bunch of other rich white guys complain that he’s only being let off because he’s the president’s son.

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    Republicans will attack him either way.

    Pardons Hunter:
    “Biden is abusing the legal process for his son! Biden crime family! Reeeeee!!!”

    Refuses pardon:
    “Biden doesn’t even love his son enough to pardon him! Reeeeeee!!!”

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      Which is why there is no dialogue with people arguing in bad faith.

      And we as a society need to recognise that, and act accordingly.

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      Nah, they don’t want to draw attention to Biden not abusing the justice system for personal gain, because it undercuts the whole “he’s abusing the justice system for personal gain by prosecuting political rivals!” It would absolutely be a counter productive strategy.

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          Yes. But more importantly, the ones steering the ship know they aren’t aiming their talking points at the faithful, but trying to convince people on the fence.

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    As a semi competent politician its obvious 1) you have to say this and 2) you do your upsetting pardons after the election

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    I think this action likely lowers Hunter Biden’s chances of winning the presidency to zero for 2024. Not that Hunter Biden is even running for President, but from everything the GOP say, they certainly think he is.

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    The dude bought a gun while high off his ass on crack. If it were anyone else, the Dems would be up in arms about the person not being arrested while the Republicans would be defending his right to bear arms. I’m not seeing too many people saying Hunter should be let free.

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      From what I’ve read, we routinely arrest people for drug charges who turn out to be longtime addicts and who have “legally” purchased guns. It happens all the damned time, there are rarely any significant repercussions, and nothing about this stands out about this case except who the guy’s father is. And I’m not saying he shouldn’t be held accountable for a crime, in just taking accepting to your “if it were anyone else” line.

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      I’m not saying he should be let free, but I am saying they’re clearly seeking a disproportionate penalty than what most people get, because it’s politically motivated.