I find it strange that many people here are against this when the alternative is a surgical treatment that often can’t be easily reversed, and even when it is, often lowers the likelihood they will have a kid.
Chemical solutions are way better in that regard because if they are done right they don’t damage any tissue and their affects are temporary.
I’m not against it but you’d have to be crazy to trust a guy who doesn’t want to use a condom because he swears he’s on the pill. It seems like it opens up a weild new avenue for sexual assault.
The reality is that the consequences of sex are asymmetric. I suppose this is an interesting option for couples in a relationship though.
asymmetric?
Like you’ve ever trusted a woman that has said “It’s okay, I’m on the pill” first time you hit the sheets?
I find it strange that abstinence isn’t even being considered. Crazy concept, I know.
Oh yeah, I’ll just tell my wife that we’re never having sex again because we’ve now got enough kids. I’m sure this will be a healthy and emotionally viable way of strengthening our relationship over the next 30 years or so until the menopause.
Fuck yes, sexual repression what a banger idea that is modern and haven’t even been considered for literally thousands of years and proven abusive to exactly every human being on the planet
Don’t forget also the male morning-after pill: you take it the next day, it changes your blood group
can’t wait for the inevitable surge of pregnancies, as people learn that that sperm doesn’t just fucking disappear, and that it needs to be manually cleared first.
I’ve heard of a male birth control every couple years and still nothing on the market. Usually it’s because there are slight side effects and that’s considered to much of a risk meanwhile female birth control can cause blood clots and whatnot. I’m too jaded to believe this will ever come to fruition.
So only the lucky unfit sperm destined to produce one who wears a red cap will be able to successfully fertilize the egg?
Finally! Finally they’re trying to take the bullets out of the gun instead of trying to make a stronger bulletproof vest. I feel cautiously optimistic!
I’m a bit jealous that there’s no side effects, though. Depo made me gain 30lbs in ONE month. I’m lucky it made my tits significantly bigger (Went from a B to a DD), but that was not a fun experience.
I’d love to switch between shooting blanks and livefire on-demand.
Original article:
https://doi.org/10.1126/science.adl2688I can’t find much on the mechanism of action (serine/threonine kinase antagonism), other than it’s been tried to fight cancer and failed, hopefully it doesn’t have any terrible side effects.
It sounds safer than the retinoic acid antagonist one that was posted a while ago anyway, I can’t imagine a drug that does the opposite of tretinoin will be popular.
When some “every sperm is sacred” loons in Alabama (probably calling themselves “the Sons of Oman” or some corny shit, decides to sue, l imagine it’ll be treated the same way they have treated women’s contraception and medical abortion.
Surely.
Sons of Onan is unironically a pretty good name for an anti-masturbation extremist group
I’m doing my part.
Safe, cheap, permanent but trivially reversible male birth control was invented in 1979 and has yet to be approved for US sale.
Can you share more info?
RISUG is a technique by which a polymer with specific electrical properties is injected into the vas deferens. This polymer messes up the flagella on sperm that pass nearby. Since “nearby” is a distance larger than the radius of the vas deferens, this means all sperm passing through get their flagellum screwed up, can no longer swim, and is therefore immotile.
It makes the man essentially sterile, until he wants to reverse the effect at which point a second injection simply washes the original polymer layer off the inner lining.
Probably talking about RISUG, although the US equivalent is Vasagel.
Basically Vasagel plugs up the Vas Deferens so sperm can’t get out, and RISUG rips sperm to shreds as they come out. It lasts for 10 years, and is reversible with a shot of baking soda.
RISUG is approved in India (where it was developed), and Vasagel is being developed by a foundation instead of a pharmaceutical company, so progress has been slow.
It does not plug up the vas deferens. One of the (many) advantages RISUG has over vasectomy is that it doesn’t block material from flowing through the vas deferens, and hence avoids the complications from that aspect of vasectomy.
I said that.
Wait, vasalgel is a plug? Are you sure?
I’ve been giving Parsemus foundation money for over a decade, and never knew that.
Actually I stopped giving them money because their original super far-out date to market was 2018, and 2018 sort of quietly sailed by without mention of it
Man if this is effective in both cost and a high efficacy rate, then I’m so down, assuming I don’t experience awful side effects.
I had the unfortunate experience of a manipulative woman lying about using protection, and it led to me developing a fear of others doing the same. It severely effected my dating/sex life all through my 20s.
If either party (or both!) can take easily-attainable birth control, it’d be so much better than we have it now.
It’s a shame that male birth control has been so much more difficult to develop, probably due to the male reproductive system not relying on a cycle that can be quite easily interrupted.
Still condom unless a long term partner. Though I’m paranoid about sti
Well the condom paradox says that if a casual partner is willing to have sex with you without condom that’s the biggest indicator for the need of a condom
It’s a shame that male birth control has been so much more difficult to develop
Nah, condoms exist since ages and has many other benefits.
Yes, we all know condoms exist, thank you for your input.
The problem with condoms though is that they suck. Like, ugh, I’ll put on the toque of shame but stopping a frisky moment to apply birth control is just plain annoying.
Give me the swim team hiatus pill I can take before getting the penis brain, please and thanks.
You know what sucks? Unwanted children.
Condoms + another birth control is more effective then just condoms
Condoms can break and have potential to make intercourse less pleasant, especially for men.
Male birth control can serve both as a backup to a condom and as a way to experience the pleasure of sex without condom while not risking impregnation.
It essentially has the same benefits as female birth control, except men can now be in charge too, and can also use this kind of protection when it is not recommended to a woman for medical reasons. Besides, you can always combine both to make it extra reliable.
Sure, condoms are essentially the only way to stop transmission of STIs during penetrative sex. But when we talk about healthy permanent partners, this is not commonly an issue.
So much for std protection.
Birth control and STD protection are two wildly different things. Imagine, if you will, a married couple who doesn’t want any more kids. They want the former and don’t need the latter.
One case, yes. Not everything is about married people who don’t cheat.
I use Arch
Truly, this is the most effective form of birth control.
I tried googling this but am confused by the results. Can you explain a bit more
No shit condoms exist. Fuck off.
Nah, condoms have existed for ages and have many other benefits.
FTFY
First time in a long time I’ve seen FTFY used literally. Have an upvote
First time in a long time I’ve seen “literally” used right. Have an upvote.
I honestly appreciate that someone else cares enough about that word to upvote me for it. Thank you for being you
Literally can literally be used metaphorically:
So getting upset about the way a word has been used since before the founding of the US is literally the dumbest thing someone could be mad about. 😁
I exist because my mother told my father that she was taking birth control. My father hasn’t been a part of my life except on a few occasions where he wanted to be here and there, and I don’t hold a grudge. My mom proudly told me this when I was about 9. I don’t blame her either, she raised herself from the time she was 4 years old when her mother committed suicide. She did the best she could with what she had as a person with no education and no parents to guide her.
My father came for the birth of my oldest biological child. He came for a few Christmases. He showed up when I was going through a divorce and helped me fix a car for my now ex. He didn’t have to do any of that. I barely know him at all, and even though it bums me out from time to time, it is what it is.
Life is a mess for everybody haha.
I misread the [raised herself] bit as [raised you herself] and I thought maybe you were a halucinating ai generating word salad for a minute lol.
And also, preaching to the choir I’m sure, that’s the biggest reason I hate AI. We’re already contending with misinformation and bad information, and here comes the confused talking computer to make things worse.
Your original reply had me confused for a moment haha. Thank you for clearing it up and removing it.
It’s not always the mother being deceptive.
My mother wanted a child. A family. She was clear about it from the start. My dad didn’t. Probably didn’t communicate it. He didn’t bother using protection either. When my mom got pregnant on the first go, he wanted an abortion. No responsibility.
He tried to hide his autism from my also autistic mother. They didn’t understand autism back then. She herself considered aborting me out of fear of having a retarded child. She zoned out for weeks, and when she learned I was a girl, she believed god had blessed her. For she thought girls can’t be autistic.
Lo and behold, my sister and I were neglected intellectually, socially, and emotionally. Because they did not understand parents supposed to teach children, not threaten them with a belt when the kid doesn’t adhere to their autistic whims/expectations.
We raised ourselves with 0 guidence and am I far behind the average person. They are both not asocial, lonely and happy we exist as a means to reduce their misery.
They should never have had children. Life is a mess.
My father bounced on my mother, thinking me and my twin sister died during childbirth. We were split up to keep.it that way. She grew up like royalty, with everything a child could possibly want or need, while I grew up in the desert with my aunt and uncle, who were both unfortunately killed while.I was in my late teens.
They’d lied to me about who my father really was after I was reunited with my sister, and the first time I ever met him I found out first hand how cruel he could be and I unfortunately lost my hand in the fray.
Despite this, he tried everything he could to get me to come work for him and his asshole boss. And mentor.
Ultimately he redeemed himself when he threw that wrinkled prick.down an 3levator shaft, but died soon after.
Life’s a mess.
Not saying the pill won’t eventually appear but the track record for men contraception hitting the market is not good. It always get cancelled in an endless loop of disapointment.
People serious about sharing the load or protecting women from the aide effect of birth control should look up vasectomy or thermal contraception. It works.
I’ve been on thermal contraception for 6months myself and my sperm production bas completely stoped with no side effects. Highly recommend.
Thermal protection? Isn’t that permanent?
It is not in this case at least. The method relies on using a device (usually a ring) to push the testicles hiver in your body, and the temperature there is enough to stop spermatogenesis. The current method involves stopping every 3 years for at l’East 6 months to ensure production returns to normal. There is no documented side effect, though it should be noted that as always in this area, fully documented medical trial are pending. You my ne referring to other methods using higher temps or external device such as heating boxer but i have not experienced not researched those so i cannot answer you.
Hehe “sharing the load”
Should be noted vasectomies aren’t reliably reversible after a certain point, but if you know you don’t want kids, by all means. I’d rather my partner take that leap than me have to have more invasive surgery
Yeah my bad for puting both in the same bag i totally agree. I meant to say that thermal contraception is a good alternative to birth control that men can use, just as vasectomy is a viable alternative to tubal litigation. And both are easier and with less side effect than the woman counterpart.
Man my birth control seems way safer and way more effective. It’s called: “Obesity, Trichotillomania, and absolutely fuck all confidence.”
Trichotillomania
I looked that up. Ouch! Is it ok if i ask whether it hurts or feels ‘good’ to do? You have an urge, or is it like a nervous tic? I’m curious what it is like if’n it’s no trouble
Not the person you responded to, but for me it comes and goes as a result of OCD. It does hurt, but not terribly. To describe the urge, it’s a bit like if there’s a big bug on your arm. Once you notice it, it’s difficult to not immediately swat it away, and until you do get it off, you’re gonna be very aware that there’s a bug on your arm. It’s pretty much the same feeling, just directed toward hair instead of bug.
It might be totally different for other people, but that’s just my experience.
Yeah. Usually an itch for me
…there’s a bug on your arm. It’s pretty much the same feeling…
I may be getting the wrong idea cus of the analogy, but is it directed towards a general spot on your scalp or do you feel like a specific follicle crawling on you you must remove? Wait, does talking about it increase the urge? Sorry if so, I’m really curious
Ah fuck, I worded that poorly. No, talking about it is fine, but thanks for asking! I don’t mean the physical sensation is the same, like how you can feel a bug on your arm. Speaking for myself, it’s like the mental reaction of “ick there’s a bug on my arm, I have to get it off”. There’s no physical itch or tickle on my skin. I was trying to make that comparison because generally when there’s a bug on you, it doesn’t bother you if you don’t notice it, and you might not even realize it’s there for a while. But once you notice it or someone points it out, it’d be hard to just ignore it, even if you couldn’t feel it on your skin at all.
As I’m typing this out, I’m realizing that it’s possible that not everyone experiences quite as strong a reaction to having a bug on their skin that I do, especially as a person with ocd, lmao. But if you do, well, hopefully this helps!
Thank you, it does!
Honestly the pain may be the part that causes the addiction. For me it started when I was 11. I was stressed, untreated for ADHD, and an eyelash was in the way so I just plucked it. The result was immediate relaxation. The next time I got an eyelash I just plucked it before I got stressed. Then I started plucking em when I was bored. Then puberty came and I got the same obsession with ance. That was a long one, then it went to these weird gland things in my mouth for a little bit, then it started on my beard which is by far the worst. It doesn’t hurt anymore, but the moment it itches, fuck everything.
It’s not an urgent anymore it’s like scratching an itch. It’s automatic. I can’t control it undless I have gloves or wrist braces for the carpal tunnel doing this gave me.
Aargh ive had carpal tunnel to the point i had a brace on my WoW arm (though probably not as severe as yours). I have ADD too and scratch my scalp to where it bleeds when I’m nervous. Oops now im making it bout me lol. I actually just wanted to thank you taking the time to write up this detailed comment. So thanks!
Can’t help you with Trichotillomania but hitting the gym tends to help with weight and confidence. I don’t know your situation but I was bordering on obesity and I was suggested 10min warmup + stronglifts 5x5 + 10min cool down as a routine. I did it for almost a year and it definitely had a impact on my weight and confidence.
If you’re not sure where to start have a session with a personal trainer with the purpose of setting up your own routine and then just stick with it. It feels really hard at first but after you start seeing results it’ll get easier.
It certainly helps with fitness, and somewhat with confidence, but just being fit isn’t going to get you laid. I’d also see a therapist regularly for the mental and emotional parts of health.
Every sperm is sacred!
for the downvoters, it’s a song from a Monthy Python movie, so comedy (and great one at that!)
