• Tregetour@lemdro.id
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    2 months ago

    I don’t understand the mindset in this thread. Functionality is neutral. Withdrawal of it is not a good thing - people should be able to comprehend that even if their vision is partially blocked by their hate boner for X/Musk.

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      2 months ago

      Brand integration definitely is not neutral. Functionality to make it smooth and easy interact with nazi-central lends Nintendo’s credibility to that platform. It’s not a neutral feature.

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        2 months ago

        Remember that the next time a service you like removes a function you use due to maintainer bias or pressure from a particular audience.

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          Yeah, I will. These decisions don’t just come out of nowhere, and I think its always a good idea to try to understand why things happen. By understanding the reasons for things, the world is less likely to feel arbitrarily hostile and unfair - and I can make better informed choices for my own life.

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      2 months ago

      If you assume:

      1. X is a bad thing (either because it promotes bad ideas, or because it crowds out better platforms, or some other reason)
      2. The more users and functionality X has, the more powerful it will be.

      Then removing functionality from X is a good thing.

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      2 months ago

      Put it this way: If you took a thread talking about some tech from a joke community, and a thread about the same topic from a generic technology community, you won’t be able to tell them apart. People will bring the same energy and mindset to both. Jokes and “lol get rekt company I hate” will be pushed to the top, because they totally contribute to the discussion, while basic observations like “removing functionality is bad” will be pushed down. 👍

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      Everything has a cost. I would have cheered them removing twitter from a game console before it was ruined. Nobody really needs that. And the resources can go to something that supports the core functionality of the device.

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      2 months ago

      I see what you’re saying. As an isolated event it’s pretty meh. Maybe it sucks for the two people who used it.

      In a sense, Musk was betting that Twitter’s API was undermonitized, and by raising the price, he’d make more money than he’d lose in people leaving the platform. He bet Twitter’s relevance against some money. Yeah, not a lot of people used it on Switch, but every rejection of his bet, that Twitter isn’t worth the price, hurts Musk’s bottom line. And it’s kinda on him; Nintendo isn’t defying him, he was just wrong.

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      2 months ago

      I remember it being convenient for getting screenshots off it to pc quickly, but I don’t know if there’s a better method of doing so. I rarely, if ever, use the share function to begin with.

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        2 months ago

        You can directly connect to the Switch over a wifi network it creates. You can select up to 10 photos to share at a time. It’ll create a one-time-use wifi network (the connection details are different every time) and generate a QR code so you can connect to it. After your phone is connected, it’ll generate another QR code that’ll direct you to a webpage (a local IP address, specifically) where you can browse and download the photos from.

        Make sure to turn off data on your phone while you’re trying to do this. Some phones use data as a fallback if the wifi network they’re connected to isn’t connected to the internet.

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          Yeah it’s so cumbersome, especially if you forget data being on.

          At least you can bookmark the second QR code because it’s always the same IP address. So once you’re connected you can just directly navigate to 192.168.0.1/index.html and you’re in.

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            Honestly, it’s easier for me to just double-tap the power button to open the camera and scan the QR code than to have to open my bookmarks.

            And I don’t mind that the SSID for the wifi changes eventually time. Again, it’s simply faster to turn off data and scan the QR code than it is to force my phone to connect to a network that isn’t connected to the internet.

            Yeah, there’s more convenient ways this could’ve been done, but it’s not a horrible design.

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              Again, it’s simply faster to turn off data and scan the QR code than it is to force my phone to connect to a network that isn’t connected to the internet.

              You have to connect to the network in order to transfer anything, so what do you mean? I’m talking the second QR code that’s simply a link to the IP address I linked. I can just open my browser (after being connected to the Switch’s WiFi) and type a 1 to let it autofill to skip scanning it at all.

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            2 months ago

            It’s been a function for at least a few years. And they didn’t mention whether it had to be new or not.

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          2 months ago

          Classic Nintendo, making simple things like copying screenshots so complicated hacking your switch is a reasonable thing to do…

          • Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            2 months ago

            They also make obtaining games for a reasonable price impossible, so hacking the switch is kinda necessary. And they make playing games with reasonable frame rates impossible, so emulating the Switch on a powerful PC is reasonable.

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        This is something that Nintendo should have had a better fix for years ago. With my PS5, I can access my screenshots and video clips from the app and save them directly to my device. I can’t believe that Nintendo hasn’t managed to do something as simple as this, they’re just so unwilling to make a modern product.

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            2 months ago

            except when selling 30 year old game higher that it was and you can only paly it online

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              And it is attached to a subscription service that rotates games on a whim.

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                  You’re right about the classic games like NES, SNES etc., but I know for one that they took down Super Mario Bros. 35 permanently which is a part of the NSO subscription.

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          Good news, they have had a better fix for several years now. About a month after the PS5 came out, so what you described was possibly an actual factor in it.

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            “Better” is such a strong word. It’s a kludge where you have to connect your phone and switch to a virtual wifi and then you can send up to ten photos at a snail’s pace. I kept using twitter because it’s such an annoying process.

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              Correct me if I’m wrong, but on PS5 you’ll need to send individual images to a friend, to be able to download them from your chat session on the mobile app. Or on Xbox, you’ll need to pay for OneDrive or it’ll be removed after 90 days. Both more annoying from my perspective.

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                Correct me if I’m wrong, but on PS5 you’ll need to send individual images to a friend, to be able to download them from your chat session on the mobile app.

                That’s the way on PS4. PS5 automatically sends all photo and video captures to the PS app on your phone. They disappear after 14 days, so if you don’t save them within two weeks, then you have to get them with chat posts like PS4.

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                  You can actually go on your PS5 and re-send those photos or videos if you need to. Just hit select when you’ve got the photo you want to re-send highlighted, and an option to send it to the PS App will appear.

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          Yea, last time I tired, you have to connect to its personal wifi hotspot and download them via the app. It’s so backwards!

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    One of my big disappointment with social media integration was Xbox 360, where “share” was basically “share on Facebook.” Wasn’t happy with that. Who shares video game screenshots on the Boomer Network?

    Was further disappointed on Xbox One where they had Twitter sharing buuuuuuuuut it only put in links to expiring Xbox screenshots and didn’t, you know, post the actual images on Twitter. I don’t know if they changed it since its introduction to actually post the images. I only wanted to get burned once.

    And now, finally, Xbox has announced that Xbox screenshots and clips go to OneDrive. Fi-fucking-nally. How fucking long did it take for Microsoft to realise that people with Microsoft accounts might want to use two already coexisting Microsoft systems?

    Dunno about Switch. Was happy with it storing pics on SD card. Was happy with dumping them on my NAS month after. Never used the sharing system. Probably because Nintendo would ban me if I did. Sharing videos or screenshots of Nintendo games? Absolutely bannable. It is known.

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      Facebook launched only one year before the Xbox 360 did it wasn’t the boomer network back then.

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      Musk probably thought calling it “X” made it sound edgy and cool. I bet it really annoys him every time it’s called “the social media platform formerly known as Twitter.”

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        Apparently he has been obsessed with the letter since before the PayPal days. He owned X.com before joining PayPal. It was even named X for a little bit. Before it went public the name was changed to PayPal. Because of course X is a terrible name for brand recognition and marketing. I think part of this just fuck you to all the guys who started PayPal

        Oh and remember the only real thing Musk brought to PayPal. Was his daddy’s money.

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          of course he’s obsessed with it. it’s pretty close to the swastika as far as letters go.

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    What? What type of integration? I just wanna watch Plex and Netflix on there.

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    If you are absolutely locked in to someone else’s service, then there really isn’t anything you can do if they do something object able, better to rip off the Band-Aid now than later.

    X Formerly Known As Twitter isn’t functionally irreplaceable, and I do hope the higher up at Nintendo will realize the only way that the only way to make sure they have full control of their publishing platform is by owning it and start a Misskey instance or something.