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    6 months ago

    wasnt the ussr one of the first places in the planet to stop criminalizing gays?

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      The Soviet government of the Russian Soviet Republic (RSFSR) decriminalised homosexuality in December 1917, following the October Revolution and the discarding of the Legal Code of Tsarist Russia.

      The legalisation of homosexuality was confirmed in the RSFSR Penal Code of 1922, and following its redrafting in 1926. According to Dan Healey, archival material that became widely available following the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 "demonstrates a principled intent to decriminalize the act between consenting adults, expressed from the earliest efforts to write a socialist criminal code in 1918 to the eventual adoption of legislation in 1922.

      Taken from here

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        my implication is that unless my memory is failing me rn, the ussr was among the first places to stop criminalizing gays

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          What a joke. You tankies are just as bad as Nazis and live in a different world. The USSR recreminalized homosexuality, and many queer people died.

          Keep coping.

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          So it was? You literally asked this in the same thread. Did you already know? Was it a genuine question? Do you know what sealioning is and can you prove it?

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          Under Joseph Stalin, the Soviet Union recriminalized homosexuality in a decree signed in 1933. The new Article 121, which punished “muzhelozhstvo” with imprisonment for up to 5 years, saw raids and arrests. Female homosexuals were sent to mental institutions. The decree was part of a broader campaign against “deviant” behavior and “Western degeneracy”. Following Stalin’s death, there was a liberalisation of attitudes toward sexual issues in the Soviet Union, but homosexual acts remained illegal. Discrimination against LGBT individuals persisted in the Soviet era, and homosexuality was not officially declassified as a mental illness until 1999.
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          Since 2000, a campaign by Russian president Vladimir Putin and the Russian Orthodox Church to promote “traditional Russian values” and oppose “liberalism” in regards to homosexuality has led to many pieces of anti-LGBT legislation being passed federally, including the banning of distribution of “propaganda of non-traditional sexual relationships to minors” in 2013, an amendment in Russia’s constitution banning same-sex marriage passed in 2020, and expansion of the 2013 propaganda law signed in 2022 to apply it to anyone, regardless of age.

          Taken from this article.

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            6 months ago

            were gays actually executed? from what i hear from cuba for example, treatment was much less bad than elsewhere. dunno about the ussr.

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              I’m not educated enough to say one way or another, sorry. I was just providing a source for the recriminalization.

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                  i’m literally just asking about i subject i don’t know well. maybe chill.

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                    What is the point of asking questions you can easily google? Finding answers probably isn’t your motivation.

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                    It wasn’t too long ago that’s you saw fit to lecture me about how ML projects were the only long-term large-scale socialist projects to be “successful”. Maybe consider reading more thoroughly on history before making such declarations, and don’t restrict your information to sources from a personality cult.

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                    Well I already had you tagged tankie from somewhere else, so you’ve rabidly defended China, and Russia, or the USSR in the past. Seeing as you’re “just asking questions” about what atrocities Stalin may have definitely done, I don’t think I buy your excuse. Also you defended him 4 days ago, so yeah.

                    Ps: while snooping through your profile I saw your post about rocksmith. Unless your copy has a built in cable crack, I wouldn’t bother. They’re a massive pain and don’t always work, and the quality can be hit or miss. The 40 bucks for the proprietary bullshit cable was actually worth saving myself the ass pain of using the cable crack.

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              “Cuban gay writer Reinaldo Arenas wrote, “[T]he decade of the sixties … was precisely when all the new laws against homosexuals came into being, when the persecution started and concentration camps were opened, when the sexual act became taboo while the ‘new man’ was being proclaimed and masculinity was being exalted.””

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Cuba

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              Treatment was less bad in Cuba iirc but still included sending people to go work on sugar plantations, which is pretty back-breaking and horrifying labor. I mean, horrifying to the point that the Spanish colonial state were willing to force their slaves to do it, you know?

              Luckily this isn’t an issue anymore as cuba has somewhat recently liberalized their constitution and legislated free medical care for trans people and decriminalized homosexuality, probably in no small part due to the “thaw” that Obama put in place (probably one of his small wins), opening them up for better tourism and money, that trump then reversed and Biden has maintained.

              But shhh, you didn’t hear any that from me, Cuba’s only allowed to be evil.