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      It’s cool while it works. But these options are not going to be provided forever in newer hardware. Recent example I saw is the absense of AHCI option in new laptops (you now need additional drivers just to reinstall Windows manually). We need to keep developing software solutions to software problems.

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        I use full-disk encryption on my Debian, and I honestly don’t see what’s wrong with entering your passphrase on boot.

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      They do this every 4-5 years. Nobody is ever bothered enough to cause a problem for Microsoft’s bottom line.

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        I don’t remember anyone being excited for a version of Windows since 7. 8 and 8.1 were universally hated, a lot of people clung to 7 until they absolutely had to upgrade to 10, and now they’re clinging to 10 as long as they can. I seriously doubt there’s an upcoming release of Windows people will genuinely like and want, because there’s no money in doing that.

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          Yeah, but even before that…people were only excited about 7 because of how much of a dumpster fire Vista was. And prior to XP (which Vista replaced), most people didn’t care about OS versions at all.

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          Yeah, it definitely has the Star Trek movie curse.

          Each only in comparison to its predecessor, though. I still think Windows 7 was the last version to get out of its users’ way and just let them use their computer; everything since then has been worse than 7 in some subtle way.

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      Did you read the article? The popup warns users about it, yes. It’s a good thing to let them know there won’t be more security updates for their OS.

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          How is that Microsoft’s fault? Should they be forcing users to care, somehow? The warning is already getting people angry as it is.

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    I see Linux in my future, as I just don’t have the cash for a new rig.

    I have to be careful though, as it’s my family PC, and the rest of my family aren’t going to tolerate much of a learning curve. It really needs to just work out of the box.

    Considering Zorin OS. Hopefully I can get it on my SSD next to Windows so I can dual-boot for a while to test the water…

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      You’d be better off installing Linux on another drive if you’re going to dual boot. Windows loves to mess with the EFI boot partition which ends up borking the Linux bootloader.

      If your family does more than just browse the web, there’s definitely going to be a bit of a learning curve, it’s possible though. I converted my 73 year old father to Linux after he used Windows for 25 years.

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        I have been wanting to make the switch to Linux myself, and have done a bit of research on which to try for a beginner coming from windows. However the dual boot dangers are worrying me a bit, I dont want to nuke my windows installation just yet and only test the waters.

        I have an SSD with windows on it and another with most of my programs and files. Could I partition the latter for a Linux installation or would I risk windows messing with it anyway?

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        If you install the Linux bootloader on a separate partition from the Windows bootloader, then it’s trivial to repair it, but that might be a bit advanced for a basic user.

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        Ah really? I could put it on the hard drive, but the whole point of the SSD was for it to take the OS… Will have to think on that.

        They generally don’t do more than browse the web so I’m not anticipating any major issues. I used to game on it, but it’s so old now I’ve stopped using it for games.

        Maybe I’ll put it on a usb for a while instead of dual booting.

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    “We tried asking. We tried begging. We tried bullying. We even tried tricking people into upgrading. We tried everything short of actually making a usable OS!”

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      I understand how it is possible for an OS to interrupt one’s use of one’s own computer to beg for money or to install spyware. I don’t understand how such an OS would still have users.

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        If I didn’t have to use it for work, and if Ableton Live made a Linux version, I’d never use Windows again. Every single activity is interrupted by messages that are effectively adverts for things you’re not interested in. The Start menu still doesn’t work after 29 years of development. Searching for a file is ridiculously slow and doesn’t find the file. Everything else is also slow, all the time. I have given up trying to arrange my desktop icons because they always go back to the same position they’ve been stuck in for months. All the applications hang, and the whole system has frequent unresponsive moments where God knows what it’s doing but it’s nothing I asked for. I dual boot into Linux and it feels like an oasis of peace.

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          Oh yeah, sorry, didn’t mean to rag on people that have to work with it. I think we’re all frustrated that it’s still so pervasive even though it gets worse every year.

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          Check out “everything” for windows, it finds files, all files, instantly. And it’s free.

          If I worked at Microsoft, on windows, I’d be so ashamed I wouldn’t tell.

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            I use Everything. It is a thousand times more useful than Windows’s file search, even though it only indexes filenames, not file contents.

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    If only they didn’t intentionally give up compatibility with 250 million PCs by introducing artificial CPU requirements, then adoption rate would be higher…

    But blackrock and vanguard (they control ~15% of Microsoft, Intel, AMD) really needed to increase their profits by selling more CPUs…

    Also it didn’t help that until October 2023 the taskbar was completely broken and unusable, people like me forbid the installation of the os in the company for that reason alone

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      Yep. The other day it rewrote a registry key that prevented these pop ups. I’m out. Debating which Debian distro to go to now.

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    Win 11 will eventually replace win 10, just as win10 replaced win7, they are just desperate to reach their target before releasing windows 12.

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      Windows 10 was the last Windows version for me. I’m done. I’m done with the spying, and the ads, and the hidden admin options spread across 5 different locations, and the registry, and the bugs, and the viruses, and just their whole shit show. Linux 4 lyfe.

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        It’s just the spying for me. If it wasn’t for the spying and ads then I’d still be a Windows die-hard. If my OS was just an OS then I wouldn’t feel the need to switch to Linux

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          Yeah, the other things are just annoyances. But the ads and the spying are deal breakers for me. They’re our fucking computers, not Microsoft’s! They’ve got a lot of fucking nerve thinking they can just shove ads into our native OS. That’s literally how adware, which is classified as malware, has been classified for all of Windows history. But now they’re doing it themselves? Get fucked, Satya!

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    Can Microsoft be any more annoying?

    I had to laugh when I searched for “Vivaldi” in Edge on a new installation and Bing said “There’s no reason to switch to a new browser!”

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    Microsoft has 18 months to convince folks to upgrade.

    They’ll be lucky if I boot my Windows 10 partition between now and 18 months.