• It's A Faaaahhkeah!@lemmus.orgEnglish
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      6 months ago

      Typical sense of entitlement from a purple, they’re all the same, that primitive purple brain can’t comprehend other light waves exist.

  • aesthelete@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    It’s worth pointing out that the two opposing countries / nations / city states in this cartoon would have to have similar governments with similar charters, and similar selection processes for their representatives.

    It is lunacy to say things like “Obummer was a dictator!” when he was selected twice by people voting, and then peaceably left the office after his two terms completely in line with the Constitution.

    Now can you say the same thing about, for instance, Putin?

  • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    It is divide and conquer vs. unite and rule. You don’t rule over people about to go at each other.

    Whatever this things reeks of both sideism. Which is another way to feel superior without learning.

  • collapse_already@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    6 months ago

    There is a reason the Geneva Convention (and the Hague protocols before it) prohibit assassination. That reason is that the Glorious Leader and the Wicked Despot have more in common with each other than they do with us peons. Don’t anyone get too excited during our “war” (population reduction, economic stimulus package, domestic troubles distraction). Invest in defense contractors, the elite will keep them fed.

    Remember the average dude in China, Iran, Russia, etc is no more interested in dying to aggrandize his rich owners than you are.

    • BlanketsWithSmallpox@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      6 months ago

      Remember the average dude in China, Iran, Russia, etc is no more interested in dying to aggrandize his rich owners than you are.

      True, and you also have to remember that many of them have it ingrained in their culture to hate enough to kill gays, other religious people, races, etc.

      Despite how much people love to say one culture isn’t better than any other… There absolutely are if you’re looking through a lens of equality. Particularly if you’ve grown up in a more westernized nation where non-perfect progress has been made on those points.

      Let’s just hope the west doesn’t continue turning into Yallqaeda and all the lost Fascists suddenly earn a Herman Cain award.

  • Fat Tony@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    I feel like the artist originally wanted to make this primarily medieval themed. But then realisied “Oh yeah, news and stuff are a thing.” And then just added laptops and antennas.

  • TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    Except that,

    • Our objective news - is really just a mess of different slants, some being propaganda, that are not censured even when their content approaches slander due to heavy political bias.

    • Our combating disinformation - is largely unexisting to the point that several large social media providers have abolished or acted against the control they had for doing so and that their CEOs shamelessly meet with presidential candidates with ties to them.

    • Our glorious leader - is hardly accepted as a glorious leader and the portion of the society that does also tend to have absolutely no qualms about becoming more authoritarian by their own admission.

    • Our great religion - is criticized within the country and an increasing number of people are becoming atheists.

    • Our noble populace - Our heroic adventures - Ok, who is writing this meme? Who thinks their society thinks this way? Half the other populace disagrees with the other half, even going so far as to be described as hate, and any mythos of heroic is easily dismissed the moment it becomes convenient to do so not to mention the amount of criticism armed forces get.

    This is whataboutism 101. Not all sides are completely black and white, but not all sides are equally grey.

    • PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de
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      6 months ago

      I don’t think this comic was about you or your country. It’s about how nationalists frame things in their own vs. other countries.

      • TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee
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        6 months ago

        Except that at least nationalists can be criticized in mine, creating such a mess in a first place. In theirs, if not explicit social censorship, there’s clear persecution of the barest opposition.

    • 🔍🦘🛎@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      6 months ago

      The whole point is that the two nations are the same, but some of the population doesn’t see it that way. Of course our news is filled with propaganda, that’s what this meme is saying. Of course our troops are carrying out the whims of a despot. But blind nationalism paints these as the right and true path.

    • SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      6 months ago

      I bet there are, just a matter of scale and effectiveness.

      There’s an organization that sneaks usb drives to North Korea. Full of news, shows, articles etc all hand picked by former NK citizens that defected

      • Clent@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        But is it disinformation?

        Spreading information is not the same as spreading lies.

        • SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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          6 months ago

          I’m sure it’s not all 100% objective truth. Nobody wants to talk shit about themselves willingly. But yeah just sayin.

          • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
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            6 months ago

            I mean, a whole heck of a lot of the US is perfectly willing to talk shit about the US. We just get annoyed if people outside the US that aren’t Nordic start talking shit about the US. The Swiss can shut up, or put up. Same for India.

            That being said, you’re probably correct that it isn’t objective, as I seriously doubt that they are sending solely documentaries and AP sources.

            Edit: Congratulations to The Swiss for their stance on Ukraine.

          • Simon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            6 months ago

            You’re so brain rotted you can’t conceive that someone would throw their own country under the bus. Most people in developed societies do, frequently.

            • SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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              6 months ago

              Nobody as in world leaders. Not nobody as in individual citizens.

              People in the US know things are fucked up, but when was the last time you heard that said in a State of the Union address for example? When it’s on a world stage every country tries to look good.

          • Clent@lemmy.world
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            6 months ago

            You seriously believe this? This isn’t a great documentary, it peddles conspiracies theories without attempting to prove any of its claims.

            The channel this is posted on is clearly of one opinion and is pushing an agenda.

            They are brought to a detention center, for a week, longer if they are showing signs of cult behavior. The video tries really hard to show this to be horrible and makes zero attempts to balance this in anyway. To me this sounds like a deprogramming center but to a tankie it is primed to accept its sinister and therefore will accept it without thinking.

            This video actually proves that not everyone can be deprogrammed. Near the end the one of the North Korean’s literally says North Korea is awesome and not a dictatorship because it says so in the constitution. Also, the lack of protesters during the famine are proof that every one believed in the leadership so much that there was no need to protest.

            That’s cult mentality. There are people who believe everything they hear and lack critical thinking skills. You might be one of them, but I am not.

            To a critical observer this only serves to show how subversive propaganda is and how it can permanently break some people’s minds.

            The fact that that exists, shows we have freedoms. Show me the anti-north Korean propaganda that North Koreans can freely access.

    • TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee
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      6 months ago

      “Hmm here’s a situation I arbitrarily picked out where this message doesn’t apply, therefore the message is useless to all situations. And anyone who says otherwise is supporting the bad guys of my arbitrary situation” - literally all of you

        • TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee
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          6 months ago

          Shh don’t try to get them to understand, they need their safety blanket of good vs evil because without feeling like they’re one of the good guys they’ll have to confront their own personal failings.

            • TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee
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              6 months ago

              I’ve said plenty “to your face” and all you see me as is another anonymous with a preset of opinions you’re already set on disagreeing with. You don’t give me the benefit of even having a face. But you expect it from others? Next time you see me , ask something about me and get to know me.

              • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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                6 months ago

                Looks cowardly when you dont say it directly to someone. No surprise an englightened centralist would use that method.

                Takes the slightest bit of courage to study an issue and stand by a value judgement. Takes no courage to claim to be above it.

  • brown567@sh.itjust.works
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    6 months ago

    I think about this whenever I see legislative efforts to “prevent disinformation” XD

    I hate disinformation as much as the next guy, but we gotta be careful who we give charte blanche to censor information XD

  • x4740N@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    6 months ago

    What I get from this image is that one side will call the other side evil while the other side will do the same

    It’s best to look at the actions of a person or group rather than what they state they are doing