I’m really confused about this. On one hand (✋), I can see how dating an autistic person would be amazing because we would just understand each other on another level. We would get each other’s emotions, meltdowns, joy, special interests, hyperfocus, communication style, etc. Also, there’s no NT partner to miss whatever NT thing we don’t bring to the relationship.

On the other hand (🤚), we definitely have some deficiencies that NTs don’t. Having an NT can help us regulate, keep us updated on social matters that we completely miss, take care of a baby that’s wailing crying, and other strengths that we just don’t have, while at the same time, we contribute with our own strengths that they don’t have.

NTs, please feel free to contribute! Your opinion and experiences are important too 🙂

I’d love to see a discussion on this topic. So what do you think?

  • weariedfae@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Yeah, here’s the thing about dating another neurodivergent person: their needs may be exactly what your boundaries are. For example, someone who is completely touch averse pairing with someone who is touch seeking and rejection sensitive. And since they’re not trying to be malicious but both of you are more or less intractable because you can only change or compromise on your needs through heavy and painful masking, it can be disastrous.

    Also, neurodivergent people can be more ableist than allistic due to how they’ve internalized criticism and taught themselves to mask.

    Now this is all situational and a neurotypical person can be the same way, which is why I say it really doesn’t matter if you date a neurodivergent person or a neurotypical person. It’s about finding a partner that can empathize and respects you.

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    8 months ago

    Let me put it this way. I’ve been with my husband for 20 years now and back then we both thought we were NT. By now we both know we’re not 😂

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    8 months ago

    I’m resigned to being single till I die. But I think either option has its pros and cons. End of the day though if you love someone and they love you it’s possible to work through stuff if you communicate.

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    8 months ago

    Only had issues dating divergents. You’ve outlined ideal relationships for both pairings. Either ideal setup works great, but the issue is that it rarely works out like that. Lot’s of divergents are patient and empathic online, but my experience when it comes to dating they expect their emergency to matter and the partner (myself included) couldn’t deal with the situation at that level that quickly. Either way slow down the relationship. Date for years and years. Statistics say never get married.

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    8 months ago

    I’m currently dating someone who is not diagnosed with something but is definitely not neurotypical. I only dated one person before when I was 16 and that didn’t really go well, we didn’t talk much I don’t know how it worked really. That first relationship was with a neurotypical person

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    8 months ago

    Ive never dated anyone whos been diagnosed with anything, but I am certainly attracted to quirky people. The last long term relationship was a bit of a train wreck, and I suspect there was some autism there, but she was only ever diagnosed with anxiety, although her cousin, who her family said was just like her, was eventually diagnosed as autistic. We had very different levels of emotional maturity though and that caused a lot of problems, especially around conflict resolution. I suspect she had a personality disorder in tow.

    I think you should just assess each person individually and not really screen for divergence. Most people arent going to open with ‘hi im autistic’ anyway, and you could end up doing yourself a disservice worrying about if they fit with you on paper verses just finding out if you fit together organically.

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    8 months ago

    I would advise against choosing a date based on wether their autistic or not unless their is a clear pattern of one not working out.

    Everyone is still different, there are emotionally deep neurotypicals and neurodivergents with an opposite emotional existence.

    That said, me and my partner do both have a diagnosis and I couldn’t see it be any other way.

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    8 months ago

    I would probably not go back to dating NTs except if very reflected and also an autistic ally. Being with an autistic person can be infuriating at times but the level of „you just understand“ is wayyyy different from anything else. Tbf, I‘m married and we‘re together for almost a decade now so emotional maturity has def changed a lot.

    The amount of internalized ableism you have to overcome with anyone who isnt at least hyper aware of autism is no joke though. Maybe possible for a „lifer“ so to speak, so someone who knew of their diagnosis all their life but def not fun for me who is quite late diagnosed and needs to learn to be themselves.

    P.S.: of yourse it is you again… ;)

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    8 months ago

    If I may ask a related question, how important is neurotype compared to other things?

    The double empathy problem is indeed a thing, but I wonder if it trumps other relationship needs.

    Sure, you can both be autistic, but if you have no interests in common and just don’t meet each other’s relationship needs, then it likely isn’t going to work.

    And maybe it doesn’t matter if two people don’t share a neurotype if they understand each other and can work around each other’s quirks. Supposedly there’s a number of NT people that find info-dumping “cute”.

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      8 months ago

      I dated a NT who loved my rants. This was before I got my diagnosis. they’re out there and I’d agree it’s more about compatibility - just keep living your life and see who you come across :)

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    8 months ago

    I met my bf before I even suspected (and eventually diagnosed) as autistic. Now, he is likely to also be on the spectrum and a third party who has some expertise in this also agrees. I was attracted to him because he’s kind and gentle and patient (also physically attractive too) and didn’t fit into a ‘bloke’ stereotype (he’s very emotional and not afraid to show this)

    I was attracted to him because he was happy being himself.

    I think i have an autistic radar where I’ll make friendships with other neurodiverse people, because I feel more comfortable with ‘my people’

    Now personality and spectrum wise we are dissimilar, I’m more logical and spock-like and crap at communicating (I’d probably be happy being semi verbal for the rest of my life), he’s all emotional, and talks and can handle people better.

    Sensory wise I don’t like hugs, noises, the sun, fairground rides, I love perfumes and smells…he loves hugs, hates smells, loves sitting out in the sun really loves fairground rides…you get the idea

    Our autism presents very differently and I struggle dealing with him at times and he does with me…I didn’t consciously think I want to have an autistic partner in life, we clash often, but we also come together and can stragegise our way through difficult people and situations using both our strengths

    He pushes me (not in a bad way) to step outside my comfort zone so I do get to experience more things in life, and I do enjoy the fact that he can be very silly, and do odd things that make me laugh

    I don’t think any relationship is easy, and a double autistic or NT/autistic and NT/NT relationships all have their unique issues and difficulties. I just think that having someone who loves and cares for you, not matter how stressed/meltdowned/shutdowned you are, and is patient enough not to be angry or demanding, or controlling, and just cares for you despite your own weird brain acting the way it does…

    Apologies for any word salad, and a wordy comment 😀

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    I got the furthest with other autistic people, although that still have its caveats. My touch needs annoy NTs, let alone touch avoidant autistic people.

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    I’ve tried to date fellow autistics, and it has never gone well. My longest lasting relationships have all been with other neurodivergent people, but all of whom have different issues. There’s something to be said for the closeness of having neurodivergences that are divergent.

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    I married my wife and later we were talking (she knew I was autistic and she has ADHD) and realized she’s probably on the spectrum too, just in different ways than I

    To be honest, it works out well, since our characteristics are complementary. Whether that’s down to being neurodivergent or not, I can’t say.

    My ex I dated for 5 years before that had ADHD too, now that I think about it…. And my best friend realized he’s autistic last year, and we’ve been friends over a decade… Maybe neurodivergent attracts neurodivergent?

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    I believe I’ve only ever dated NTs up to this point, but I know plenty ND people. It’s a mixed bag. Everyone will bring something different to the table and you just have to find something that meshes well with you. Some of my ND friends I would not fathom living with, let alone a romantic relationship, but same could be said for some NTs.

    Someone who is understanding of you and respectful of your needs (and you theirs) is what a healthy relationship demands, that is not exclusive to NT or ND. Some people may jive better or have weaknesses covered by someone of the opposite, or of the same.