That was one of the more interesting SOTU addresses I’ve seen. Personally, I think he said most of the things that needed to be said, and he said them reasonably well. I’m sure he’s going to get some flack for attacking Trump directly (though not by name), but I was frankly glad to see it. Doing otherwise makes it seem like it’s just your typical election/political disagreements, but we’re past that now.

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    I read a full page of them and I saw zero suggestions, just a lot of bad faith arguing. I’m not going to spend my time filtering through your nonsense to find whatever nuggets you think I should see, and no one else should have to, either.

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      Great, I’m glad you’re fine with a president bending over backward to facilitate a genocide, accelerating the climate apocalypse, and taking a far right stance on the border. Vote blue no matter who lol.

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        bending over backward to facilitate a genocide

        Actively trying to negotiate a cease fire - says Israel has a right to defend against Hamas, but that they need to protect innocent Palestinians. Trump says Israel should finish the job and has advocated for using nukes in the middle east.

        accelerating the climate apocalypse

        Negotiated a massive bipartisan infrastructure bill (with a divided, polarized government) that included huge improvements for green energy and electric vehicles. Trump consistently weakened government regulations of corporate emissions, promotes coal, and argues against electric vehicles.

        and taking a far right stance on the border

        Negotiated a bipartisan bill that has way more than enough support by both Democrats and Republicans to reduce the problem at the border. Trump successfully advocated for not bringing the bill to the floor for a vote because it’s more useful to have a border problem to use as a political weapon (actually said that). Biden worked to reunite families separated at the border by Trump.

        Yeah, I’ll comfortably vote for Biden, even though I don’t think he’s percent. I think he’s at least a decent and fairly effective president, while Trump is a complete train wreck. But you go ahead and keep trying to convince people that Biden has flaws, so they should instead help elect Trump by voting independent or not voting at all.

        I suspect all your arguments really are intended to help elect Trump by weakening support for Biden. They’re so overtly bad faith arguments.

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          If you read an entire page of my comments and think I support trump because I’m critical of Biden, you’re stupider than I thought :P

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            I think you’re arguing against voting for Biden, which ends up being the same as supporting Trump. You’re either doing that intentionally or you can’t grasp the simple fact.

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              I think you’re arguing against voting for Biden, which ends up being the same as supporting Trump. You’re either doing that intentionally or you can’t grasp the simple fact.

              false dichotomy

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                It’s really not. We have a two party system. If you don’t vote for the better choice, you might as well vote for the other. It really is that simple.

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                  this is all just storytelling. it’s not even true. voting for another candidate is voting against all other candidates, and, if i’m voting for them, then i must believe they are, in fact, the better choice.

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                    If someone doesn’t believe Biden is the better choice over Trump, there’s really not much left to discuss at this point. We all know who Trump is.