That was one of the more interesting SOTU addresses I’ve seen. Personally, I think he said most of the things that needed to be said, and he said them reasonably well. I’m sure he’s going to get some flack for attacking Trump directly (though not by name), but I was frankly glad to see it. Doing otherwise makes it seem like it’s just your typical election/political disagreements, but we’re past that now.
I’m not voting for joe because he’s complicit in genocide.
What disgusts me the most is all the posturing we’re seeing now in anticipation for the election.
It just shows he doesn’t have a genuine bone in his body.
So instead you’re going to help elect the guy who says Israel needs to finish the job in Gaza. Who says Russia should be able to do what they want. Your sensibilities are messed up.
I’m not voting for either candidate.
I lose either way.
You honestly believe that a Biden term would be as bad or worse then a Trump term? Seems insane.
I don’t think it really matters at this point.
The advantage of Trump winning is that people like you see there’s a problem.
If Biden wins, you pat yourselves on the back for a job well done.
It’s delusional and I don’t expect more from any of you at this point.
The more you support a slow loss, the less I take you seriously.
Low IQ detected. Maybe the lowest we ever observed.
You fit in with the tribe.
But you are voting against Trump, right?
I’m not an American so I’m not invested in the same way, but if you don’t want Biden because of his actions with respect to the Gaza genocide can I ask about your thought process regarding what happens if he does not get in? If he loses the only possible winner is Trump because he is the Republican nominie, so is a vote not for Biden basically a vote for Trump? Or do you see it some other way?
Neither candidate represents my interests so I lose either way.
Welcome to American politics.
Is one of them going to hurt you more than the other?
Me? No.
The only impact this really has on me is seeing how everyone else reacts. My life was remarkably similar under Trump, Biden, and Obama.
This is what losing feels like.
That’s the Republican way of thinking for sure. “Oh, it didn’t personally impact me? I don’t care.”
You’re a fool if you think Trump would be anything but catastrophic for the world. Naive or a shill.
You literally asked if it would be worse for me.
Yeah, people said the same thing in 2016. Then the democrats nominated Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders, guaranteeing a Trump victory.
Just goes to show, Trump is preferable to a candidate who actually fights for commoners.
This is what I mean by we’re losing no matter what. I don’t think you’re capable of understanding this, though.
Sad how you feel justified in calling others ‘fools.’
I get you’re just a sad little loser and saying this dumb shit is just your way of getting attention from strangers on the internet.
But on the tiny off chance you’re not a troll that knows how stupid your own argument is:
Trump has literally said he will be a dictator from day one. He has already made 1 major attempt to end the Democratic process in the US. And has a several courts including the supreme Court stacked in his favour, given another 4 years that will only get worse and he has a much better chance this tike around of actually ending democracy in America. So even if you truly belive the stupid fucking opinion that Joe Biden is just as bad as Trump, taking the hit and voting for Biden this time means you can vote for someone else in 4 years time, so you have a chance to get a president that actually works for you. But if you don’t vote and Trump gets elected then there’s a good chance you never get a say in who is president ever again.
Also you know your incredibly obvious fake concern over gaza is fucking disgusting btw. You’re genuinely a piece of shit.
I get that you’re just having an instinctual response to someone who goes against your tribe.
I see it all the time and don’t expect more from you people.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-israel-finish-the-problem-gaza_n_65e76ed1e4b0f9d26cac9866
Yes, getting rid of Joe will be so good for Gaza.
I didn’t read the article, do you want to use your own words to tell me your point?
Trump abandoned any pretense of American neutrality when he moved the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
Trump’s evangelical backers are big on the End Times, and would happily blow up the entire Middle East to bring about the return of Jesus.
Don’t bother responding. I know how valuable your time is and don’t want to waste anymore of it.
So we can admit Trump is not a puppet of Putin?
Why is that so hard to get you guys to acknowledge? Lol.
No, we can’t. That’s a false dichotomy that ignores a fuckton of evidence of trump actively supporting pootins goals against that of the US.
Anything Joe can do, Trump can do much, much worse.
Why would Trump support Israel if it goes against his puppetmaster, Putin?
So you agree Trump is just a Putin lapdog?
Yes. Why would get go against his master’s wishes in relation to Israel?
Look. I don’t support vaporizing Gazans and I also feel rather impotent to do anything about it. I also think things are broken and our county needs some major systemic changes to give power back to the people.
And I support the ‘uncommitted’ vote in the primary to send a clear message to Biden.
But don’t kid yourself with this ‘both sides are the same’ stuff.
Biden will, at the very, very least, try to reduce suffering where he can. And that may be pathetically little.
But this is the other side that WILL come to power if you (and I mean you) don’t vote for Biden this fall:
Trump breaks silence on Israel’s military campaign in Gaza: ‘Finish the problem’
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-israel-gaza-finish-problem-rcna141905
they never said that.
I’ve come across many people like you and it always ends the same.
You refuse to acknowledge how a slow loss is still a loss and go into “recruitment” mode.
It’s really just a instinctive response at this point, and I never expect anything more from you.
Goodbye.
This sounds like some accelerationist bullshit, and if so, your opinion can be safely ignored. Accelerationists should be ignored and shun ed at every possible step, as they only seek increased pain and suffering for all. Any accelerationist that disagrees with that clearly hasn’t looked at the consequences of burning the system down.
Trump will literally result in more Gazans dead. Why do you want more Gazans to die?
Can I see your crystal ball?
You people keep telling me Trump is Putin’s puppet and Putin supports Hamas. But now Trump will go against Putin’s wishes and kill more Gazans than Biden?
Which is it?
It’s the one where he said he supports Israel and wants them to finish the job… You’re just being willfully blind at this point and clearly lack the maturity to differentiate your idealistic vision with the true reality of what would happen if Trump gets another term.
So Trump isn’t actually Putin’s puppet? Is that what you’re landing on?
See how cognitive dissonance works? Lol.
Hahaha, as if he can’t both be pro-pootin and pro-israel. What really makes you think he wouldn’t try to help Israel destroy Gaza and help pootin destroy Ukraine?
People keep telling me Trump is Putin’s puppet and Putin supports Hamas.
Are you suggesting he’s not actually Putin’s puppet?