But Facebook still exists.
Yeah, but have you seen the state of it recently? It’s a shell of its former self
Maybe but it’s almost a $2trillion dollar company. Might be a shell, but it’s popular.
“Addictive, coercive and profitable” ≠ Popular.
that’s Meta, not Facebook. I’d say now FB is one of their least valuable assets.
As someone who joined Facebook way back when it was brand spanking new to the public: It’s always sucked. I don’t even remember a single person who chose it over MySpace until way later on when they added games to FB.
I’ll fight you over Farmville. Jk, no you’re right. FB died in the womb. The moment our parents found out about it.
No, and I don’t intend to. Fuck that place.
And by most estimates it has more active users than ever.
It’s no longer “hip” but being hip and being popular are opposing goals.
I don’t understand the “killed Facebook” thing either. I haven’t used Facebook in almost 10 years but as far as I know it’s still printing money.
Killed Facebook because the people who were into it and enjoyed using it… stopped using it 10 years ago. If I were to log into my Facebook account right now, I would see my mum posting Sovereign Citizen stuff. My aunty sharing photo after photo of my nephews and nieces. My other aunty talking about her later life crisis holidays to South Africa. And advertisement after advertisement for random junk.
If I’m lucky, one of my friends will have posted something like “Photo from Butterfly Effect reunion last night. These guys still kick ass”
“Facebook” is alive and well but it’s a different product than we knew and, whether intended or not, target audience is boomers and terminally online jerkoffs.
Yep, it still exists. Like a marionetted corpse waltzing around selling garage sale items and finding lost dogs.
I think you’re confusing it with Zuckerberg. Or maybe they’re one and the same?
Why?
Chaos.
Oh don’t worry, OP, soon you’ll be a cranky old perosn who’ll be complaining about whatever social media the young’uns are using and doing your part to “kill” something else by using it
Promise?
Cause all I want is a platform that isn’t shoving ads down your throat; respects privacy; helps you feel connected with peers; and isn’t plastered with hate.
I’ll be ruining quite a few platforms with those expectations.
Facebook was all those things in the beginning.
Reddit was all those things in the beginning.
Twitter was all those things in the beginning.
LinkedIn was all those things in the beginning.
The Internet in general was all those things in the beginning.
I’ve never used IG/TT but I assume they were all those things in the beginning.
Lemmy will probably be said to be most of those things in the beginning.
With age comes wisdom, which comes once you’ve seen the pattern happen enough times, which can only come with age.
Sincerely,
One of those old people.
You can still setup your email server and send / receive emails without adds.
So lets hope that it doesn’t end in a single corporate Lemmy instance with its own fork that defederated everything else but has most of the content.
Yes you can but for people that are looking to set one up today, not someone that’s been running one for 5 years and has basically a whitelisted reputation, it takes a lot to set it up and keep your domain and IP space reputation solid, along with DKIM/SPF/etc records, all the latest stuff like Google’s new mandatory unsubscribe header that will keep coming up. Even if a couple people on your hosting provider start spamming, if they’re in the same IP space as you, You’re going to be getting filtered more heavily for using a “bad neighbor” host. The big corporate/“nonprofit” guys like Spamhaus and Google and Microsoft are basically those controlling corporations for emails, what they say in their spec pretty much goes. They’re making it h em oarder for people to set up and run their own email servers, whether that is the outright intended effect for their mandatory changes or not.
Don’t get me started on trying to set up a business newsletter account on your new corporate mail server, holy hell, the warm-up itself is pulling hairs. There’s a reason companies like MailChimp, Zapier, et al make so much money.
You’ve hit the nail on the head.
The Internet is fine, until you try to monetize it.
You can grow with membership, donations, site perks, but it’s slow growth.
Or you can go for a big check. And sell questionably sourced boner pills, online therapy, and vpns to obscure the fact that you use the site.
These sites are all great until people who invested expect a return.
Time for a government run social media platform?
Or maybe something similar to PBS but for social media? Government grants but independently run and crowd funded.
Free speech but not freedom to hate.
they are already bad, no need to ruin them.
If by kill you mean turn into a cesspool of right wing extremist propaganda and incel shit only a boomer could spout and still fuck, then most platforms are already there or pretty close.
To everyone defending the elderly: Have you considered they’re not ruining these sites because they’re old, but because they’re baby boomers specifically?
Someday kids will understand when the baby boomers were actually born.
Or, I guess OP is a middle-aged person complaining about his elderly parents being on a phone app.
elderly is a bit harsh referring to people in their 60’s.
I know a lot of boomers (yes, baby boomers) who keep talking about tiktok.
I mean, I’m only 30 and my parents are boomers. They weren’t even that old when they had me. - I’d imagine there’s plenty of early-20’s kids running around with boomer parents.
Early 20’s here with 65y/o parents 👋
65 y/o is gen x no? boomers would be from the end of ww2 to the civil rights act wouldn’t they… oh i guess that’s like 60 to 80
all this time i thought my parents were gen x… but they’re actually boomers!
My mom’s one of the youngest boomers, born in December 1964. She’s 59. Still fits the boomer stereotype to a T, though.
how can she be 59 if she was born in 64?
“born in December 1964”
i cant do maths apparently
born between 46 and 64 according to wikipedia.
Meaning the last boomer turned 60 just last year.
Yeah, I’m in my early twenties and my mom is in her sixties. A friend of mine is in her mid twenties and her parents are both in their sixties, too. Some people wait longer to have kids for various reasons. Luckily, my mom barely knows how to open Chrome, so at least I don’t have to worry about her getting addicted to TikTok lmao.
Dude at my work is 68 and and talks about what he saw on TikTok every day. Even my 93 year-old aint jas a smartphone these days.
Uh oh, you’re becoming the generation affixed to social media platforms.
Oh, you’ll try to hang on, I’m sure you’ve got a BlueSky and ZingZang account, probably dabble in Xruddle to stay “cool,” but you’re whining about dated platforms that most people younger than you are already moving beyond.
Fight. Fight against the dying of the light!
Whining? I’m fucking stoked.
Stoked about a silly and out of touch scenario you made up entirely in your head lmao. This really is some Facebook level shit
It’s harder for them to kill since the algorithm on TikTok is so strong it isolates the demographics.
I wish people hated the brigading proudboys this much. They would be more deserving.
I think TikTok is at its peak and will be sad if it goes to shit like Insta and Facebook. Although I am a Gen Xer it currently fills the holes that Twitter and Reddit left empty…I see what is trending, cool stuff, news, cute animals and broaden my horizons with lgbtq and black issues. Of course it’s not the same experience for everyone but I find it pretty fulfilling a lot of times as social media, entertainment etc.
The stuff with TikTok lately has really made me reconsider bothering with lemmy tbh. This post is talking about boomers while they say some of the most boomer shit ever lol. The way they blatantly make things up is just sad too
Maybe you could pickup a hobby. Or better yet, you could go talk to someone face to face.
This right here is some boomer shit. Wow.
Kids think anyone older than 25 are boomers. I would wager that the average age here on Lemmy is ~30. So by default, we are all boomers here.
With that said, follow my onlyfans account for cat news and all things related cats at
::: spoiler i was expecting actual cats spoiler :::
You really sound like boomers in this whole post tbh. TikTok hasn’t been just full of kids or whatever in years… My page is full of hydroponic farmers, cat videos, game memes, d&d stuff, and other comedy shit. Almost all of which are channels run by millennials around my own age.
You guys are so out of touch and you frankly look goofy with this petty shit.
You sound like you are in dire need of cat videos and other cat related content.
Is that supposed to be an insult? Cat videos are great. Are you 90? You wanna make a basement joke or bitch about rock music while you’re at it?
Thank the lord you brought this up. That dang rock n roll is the devil incarnate. DAE agree? Can I get 5 updoots
Expected Rick Roll but was still sad you didn’t have an Only fans for cats. That would probably make decent money out of spite.
The thing you kids don’t understand about entering middle age is yes you’ll see thy thing you hated because kids use it die but kids don’t stop- there will be something that replaces it which will be even more alien and distressing for you
Is everyone a “kid” to you?
My dad really changed since joining TikTok. Now that’s all he talks about. Come look at this, come look at this,…
“But I am busy.”
“Oh, come on, it’s short.”
“Look. See? People love Putin.”For fucks sake… Then he proceeds to loudly curse when he gets yet another account banned for posting some trash.
When I try to talk to him, I am met with “Wait, I just have to finish this video.” then later he complains I don’t talk with him. ¿?I mean, it’s not just TikTok alone, he uses Facebook, TikTok and VKontakte, but I feel like that had the biggest influence.
start behind the scene subscribing to anti-putin posts and channels and see he changing opinion lol
Ask not what you could do for the algorithm. Ask what the algorithm can do for you.
The future is bright!
100%. This actually works. Most boomers are not technologically late enough to track subscriptions and such.
There was a YouTube video not a documentary (similar to The Brainwashing of My Dad) where their father went down the rabbithole, but they started subscribing them to better news sources, and eventually to left-leaning news sources, and he did a whole 180°.
Fear is like a drug. It’s addictive, and rightwing media sources have cracked the formula on how to get people addicted to it, and it can happen to ANYONE. The uneducated to the well-educated. The only thing that makes you immune to it is critical thinking and empathy - which is why I feel that their next war is on education and masculinity. They are literally trying to perfect the addiction so you can never leave it.
This is part of the reason why education is so insanely important.
exactly, i got this idea from a brazilian tweet, where she did the same with her mom and it worked lol
I feel that their next war is on education and masculinity.
The latest shots in the former march on by under the banner of ‘woke [literally any noun]’ is ruining our children these days, but that war has been raging since the 80s. ‘They’re’ winning by strangling the purse strings and efficiencies out of public education.
The latter? Masculinity? That one has been a total occupation for hundreds of years already.
Our sisters, mothers, and daughters have been warning us even before the side effects get to them. Of the emotional self-immolation a Patriarchic-controlled society demands of men by violence and shame until ‘Men don’t cry’ can be such poisonous words that many men end up kissing the barrel of a gun than using their lips to communicate their struggles to each other.
It took trauma and the effects of such turning sharpening empathy into a survival mechanism rather than the too often opposite for me to even have been able to introspect myself out of just the more common and pervasive aspects of ‘toxic masculinity’.
Make no mistakes; whatever you want to call ‘hearts and minds’, the twisted craven swine undermining the concept of basic humanity know very well to keep assaulting them. Education and empathy are the only things that can empower an actual successful removal of the Takers’ ability to do the same.
My dad can hardly use his phone and this sounds absolutely haunting.
My father’s the same but I think moving south really revealed what was already there. This just highlights it more.
I skipped those, but I’m about to ruin whatever new platform my kids get in to.
Nah. If you started skipping trends already you are free. Just use what you like lol
Well I happen to like embarrassing my kids so…
💀
I hope that was not serious.I’m told that the joy of embarrassing your children is the main upside of parenting, actuality.
Like being Michael Scott/David Brent of The Office on purpose and they have to be the long-suffering employees of Dunder-Mifflin/Wernham Hogg.
Necause no matter how much you play the oaf, some fool still allowed you to be in charge of something important 😁
Why? It’s a time-honored parenting tradition. And one that doesn’t involve child abuse.
Boomers and child neglect - name a better duo.
Boomers and pulling the ladder up behind them.
I can’t wait to log in to the newest gamer platform only to engage in trash talk with a select group of boys. Three of them, to be exact.
“I fucked your mom!”
“Dad, go away…”As is tradition.
Your boomer parents? You’re 40 something?
That would be my age.
An old person? On my Lemmy? Gasp
Seriously, people past the age of 30 should not be on the internet. They should be on the golf course or playing shuffleboard or rotting away on a retirement ocean cruiseline somewhere.
/s
I do enjoy a round of golf. And have you ever played shuffleboard? It’s quite fun, especially on a cruise.
Shit.
As an elder 40-something, I agree with you. Problem is, the economy doesn’t. I’ll be working until I die. In the meantime, I need the memes to help keep me numb to all the shit going in around me. Please don’t take those away from me. It’s all I have anymore.
65 here sonny.
67 here kiddo
How excited will you be when you reach the “nice” age?
On lemmy? A platform made by those who miss the “good old days” when reddit was good? Full of old people? Impossible.
A lot of us are, yeah. Even with young whippersnappers like yourself fizzing around on your electrified skateboards and what have you, I’m pretty sure the average age here on Lemmy is closer to 40 than 30 🤷
I’m 30 and I literally have 2 electric skateboards lol
Sounds about right to me
… was written on lemmy 😬
Implying we aren’t mostly disgruntled boomers here.
I’m pretty sure we’re mostly disgruntled Millennials and Gen-X’ers.
Anyhow, it looks like TikTok might finally be heading towards some sort of ban or regulation in the US, so maybe it’ll get killed by the Boomers but in a different way.
Dont forget gen Z tech workers
Get outta here, y’all were in middle school yesterday.
Gen Z are like 20-30 years old by now
Some genZ here too :) moved from Reddit to Lemmy
