A woman in Florida says her 55-year-old “medically fragile” father was falsely accused of theft at a Florida grocery store last week and then seriously injured in a violent encounter with police. Now, she says, he is hospitalized and has lost the ability to speak.

  • BigWheelPowerBrakeSlider@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    This is Polk County, Florida, home of the cowboy sheriff Grady Judd who has never seen a camera and microphone he didn’t want to use to engrandize himself. Except for the body worn ones. Polk County residents are not the most enlightened of people. But, never discount there being two sides to every story.

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      No answer to their question huh? I’d love to know what you think this old man could have done to justify putting him in the hospital like this. Go on. Tell us what other side to the story makes the end result ok.

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          Cops only knew that there was a shoplifter threatening the employee, and they saw the daughter with the bat. So they rolled up and took care of it.

          I really put almost all of this on the employee. Even in her own words, how do you follow someone out of the store screaming at them and threatening them, then say you’re afraid because the woman had a bat?

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            So the cops… See the woman with a bat and beat the shit out of the old man? Is this supposed to paint the cops in a better light or make them look less incompetent and stupid?

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              No, I don’t see how anyone could absolve the cops in this scenario. Incompetent, stupid, prone to violence, ready to violate human rights at the drop of a hat, are all fair descriptions here. Many of these police violence stories have in common that one officer crosses the line out of fear, but the others join in with some sort of mob mentality.

              But cops were new arrivals who most likely didn’t know the context. Fault them for excessive violence, having to control the situation with fear, need to be obeyed, etc, but this is sort of like a “swatting”. The person calling with a presumably incomplete story is most at fault. That person should be in prison, but it doesn’t change that those officers shouldn’t be trusted with authority and there needs to be a fundamental change in policing

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    A police spokesperson said Monday that the body camera video would not be released until the cases are resolved.

    That could take years! That’s unacceptable.

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      We need a national oversight agency where all this footage should be sent to so it is managed by a neutral 3rd party. Why the fuck would we allow criminals to manage the evidence against themselves?

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      I the rules for body cam requests in the city I work for. It can only be denied for the following reasons:

      1. The video was taken in a private home and the homeowner does not consent to the release.

      2. The video is of a non-jailtime citation/interaction and the principal civilian captured on film doesn’t consent to the release.

      The second one is because the city is a tiny enclave for the super-rich (average new home is about 6 million dollars), and there’s celebrities and stuff getting pulled over pretty often. We had tons of ORRs from paparazzi for all incidents.

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      They are hoping that by then people will forget about it and not notice when its dumped so theres no outrage.

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    5 months ago

    I see they opted for the Israeli definition of “measured and equitable response”.

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      Reminder that the IDF trains US cops. Palestinians are used as guinea pigs for policing techniques.

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    “At first, I was trying to ask her what happened, and she was like, ‘People like you and him shouldn’t come into the store if you don’t have money to pay for things,’” Anjelica Lee said. “My mom is white, and my dad is Black. So I’m mixed. So I think she meant Black people. And it just escalated from that, and she went to cussing me out.”

    You can almost guarantee the victim will be Black.

    Every. Fucking. Time.

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    We don’t have police. Just corporate enforcers. Pinkertons in different uniforms. Oh, you are accused of a 17 cent theft and didn’t do it? Eat lead I guess. I’m just so tired.

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    The cops’ report noted that she “struck him in the arm against his will”.

    I am absolutely fucking disgusted by this weasely use of language

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    Very poor decision by the daughter to grab a weapon from her car and come back to threaten the employee. I hope she reflects on her decision to do that, and the consequences that followed.

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      Was it though? Would you not defend an elderly family member from a frothing at the mouth racist?

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          They were followed out of the store and berated in the parking lot. They only had to stay in the area because they had not finished business at the laundromat yet.

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          I think leaving the store was part of the problem, not the solution. That’s when it becomes shoplifting. That’s when you can no longer get the cashier to tell everyone you paid for it

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    She said he told her that he picked up four bananas, one of which he ate on the way to the register, and that he told the cashier that he needed to pay for four bananas even though she scanned only three. Anjelica Lee said her father told her he was followed closely while he was shopping by a white female employee, who, she said, accused him of stealing the banana he ate.

    “At first, I was trying to ask her what happened, and she was like, ‘People like you and him shouldn’t come into the store if you don’t have money to pay for things,’” Anjelica Lee said. “My mom is white, and my dad is Black. So I’m mixed. So I think she meant Black people. And it just escalated from that, and she went to cussing me out.”

    JFC. Racist piece of shit.

    Fuck the cops. Fuck this piece of garbage cashier.

    Fuck all this.

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      Wow. Non American here. My kid regularly eats while I shop. I just bring empty packets to register for them to scan and they normally throw them out for me. No problem. Like zero problem.

      I don’t even think our police would show up if they were called. They take 3hrs to turn up to a home invasion, so I doubt they’d show up for a banana. This is a crazy level of policing.

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        A lot of retail stores will have a police officer sit in their car close by so they can have a quick response to e for shoplifters. I see it a lot in areas that have several larger retail stores grouped together.

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    Hey morons, that Monty Python sketch about defending yourself from being attacked with a banana by shooting the attacker was supposed to be a joke.

    I sure hope they disarmed the guy.