I don’t get it. Her music is sometimes catchy but otherwise unremarkable, from the songs I’ve heard. How does she break all these records and accumulate so much fame and wealth?
She’s pretty, but a lot of singer songwriters are, especially those with makeup and costume people, a support staff.
Is there something else to her that people like?
I’m confused about what makes her so apparently uniquel or phenomenal.
I went to a Daddy-Daughter school dance with my kid a few weeks ago, she’s in Kindergarten, so it was just a new experience for her going to a dance, we had a good time. However, it’s been a while since I’ve been to any sort of dance function at all (in school or out), but I’m pretty sure that more than half the songs were all Taylor Swift songs. I don’t know if that’s indicative of white people dance music selections in general, or if this was specific to that function and who they thought the girls wanted to listen to, but her music apparently gets played alot.
I think her popularity might be tied to her relatively clean image. Apart from the serial dating, the racist boyfriend thing, and the wasteful jet planes, she’s still fairly clean in the eyes of popular America, she apparently hasn’t had a big sex scandal or nude photos leak. Hell, when fake photos of her started spreading everywhere recently, that’s when politicians started talking about reigning in and regulating AI Art, and that’s been around for years now (even photoshopping images has been a thing for ages).
Funny enough though, my daughter actually hates Taylor Swift.
Ha, yeah, I agree with you that the clean image certainly helps lend an air of credibility to her success
The music industry has been a racket for nearly 100 years. Music doesn’t get popular because people like it, it gets popular because it’s promoted. Way back when, promoters would pay radio stations to play their music to encourage sales. The methods are slightly different now, but it’s still the same kind of old boy’s club telling people what they like.
Taylor Swift understood the industry she was getting into, and was very adept at exploiting it.
This is true, but not everything that gets promoted gets popular. A lot also flunks.
Taylor Swift just happens to hit a sweet spot that appeals to a lot of people.
And music has a self-reinforcing spiral. People listen to music from artists that they like, and which their peers like.
So a popular artist could theoretically release an album without any promotion and it would still become popular, just because people will be curious to listen to the new songs from an artist that they already like (of course, record labels will always heavily promote work from their popular artists to make them even more popular).
She appeals to a lot of people because she followed the script of what has been established as appealing to a lot of people, what people have been trained to like. It’s the same manufactured crap that has always been promoted, the difference is she’s an artist that knows what that is, rather than the artist being directed that way.
Just commenting to let you know that you are not alone in your confusion.
To me, most of her songs are pleasant but forgetable.
She seems like just one of many female Pop artists with a bit of girl-next-door charm. Maybe that charm is her appeal?
Maybe she is a witch?
Who knows.
That’s the thing, I would just think “current pop sensation” but she seems way more successful and receives so many more awards than other pop artists.
It’s somewhat shocking.
Probably a witch
She’s been an industry plant since the beginning of her life, her parents were both rich and her dad was already in the music industry.
That explains how she got started and noticed, maintaining it is more difficult.
This was mentioned and I do think it explains an important part of her initial success, but of course not all of it.
Miley Cyrus, Lana del ray, Zoe Kravitz all have wealthy parents whom were big in the music industry, but aren’t as big Taylor Swift is.
It also seems important to note that her parents were not in the music industry, her dad was a stock broker and her mom was a marketing executive, according to what I’m reading here.
How was her dad in the music industry?
I think he invested a bunch of money in a record label, he was never a famous celebrity but he did have a lot of sway with a record label because of investments and shit.
I’m definitely not a swiftie, but she does have some catchy music, and Shake it off was the default song for getting my kids out of bad moods and over bad days.
I also used to think she was a catty bitch for the way she was caught on camera making a face when Selena Gomez was with Bieber. However since then I’ve heard her speak about things she cares about and I appreciate her passion and that she’s against the things I’m generally against, she definitely seems to care and motivate her swifties to care about the right things, and that makes me tend to support her.
I’m not a music fan of hers, it’s her arguing with her team because she wanted to oppose some dirt bag politician, her bonuses to her crew, encouraging her fans to register and vote, that kind of stuff that makes me a fan. That’s like the best part of Apple-Pie-and-Baseball America being represented.
Listening to her speak as a public figure is a good idea, I’ll look for some interviews. Thanks
Things go viral sometimes and it snowballs. The more famous you are, the more famous you can become. She’s also good enough at being an entertainer to keep riding the wave of increased fame, with added resources the bigger she gets.
Yea, good point
I’m personally not a fan. But I am a fan of her making the right-wing nut jobs apoplectic.
10 points for apoplectic
That is 100% my favorite part of her career, besides the f*** you record labels, i’m re-recording my entire catalog, which is pretty cool
She also is helping bring down the Ticketmaster monopoly. That’s where she earned my respect.
What has she done, regarding Ticketmaster?
Honestly I don’t remember the details, and when I google “taylor swift ticketmaster” I get fairly predictable results. There was some drama about them screwing her over, and her screwing them over in return or somesuch. I do know that ticketmaster has held a significant monopoly on event ticketing for over a decade now though, and has only recently begun to get investigated.
Sorry I can’t be more use, I’m not a swiftie and I tend to dislike pop culture in general.
No problem, just curious. Thanks
Kanye interrupted her acceptance speech with some crazy shit.
From there on, it was just maintaining the momentum.
And all these years later, Jay Z was just complaining on stage that his wife should have won Album of the year after Taylor won it again.
I do think this is a good point, that she got a cultural relevance boost from this.
Tbh, I’m not a swiftie, but ever since the Kanye thing I’ve hated Kanye and been partial to T swift.
Kanye is just such an asshole. I don’t see how anyone can like him.
It’s very difficult for me to listen to any Kanye West music no matter how much he’s pumped up since I heard him talk on rogan’s podcast and sounded literally insane, and that Taylor Swift thing was unbelievable, in the actual sense of that word.
i love kanye but he hasn’t been the same ever since his mom died and it went downhill during coronavirus lockdown. he used to be a personification of self confidence but I don’t think i can say the same anymore. wish he gets proper help.
The reason is that her dad is quite rich and was a stock broker.
He invested heavily in the lable that had his daughter under contract, being able to dictate what the lable was focusing on and on top he has thrown another Million on her, to start the journey.
So to sum it up a huge tone of money, contacts and knowledge about how to run a business by her father.
Both of her parents worked in finance and upper middle class, but not “quite rich”. He invested in a 3% stake in the label, approximately $120,000. That is big money for most but not ultra rich money. Even today they are worth the low millions.
Contacts, enough money to launch a career, business acumen, hard work, and luck have been most of it.
My parents couldnt afford $1200 to invest in me. Mustve been nice
Never said ultra rich and by any means someone who is able to take over a million out of their pocket to Kickstart anything is rich.
In what world does investing roughly 3x the median yearly income in the US into your child’s potential music career not count as “quite rich”?
The current world in which the median yearly income is basically poverty
It is difficult to comprehend how staggering wealth inequality is. Minimum wage earners have more in common with her parents, then her parents did with the truly wealthy. I have always liked Pen’s parade (which is about income rather than wealth), but there are other aids. One pixel wealth might work in this context because they provide a marker for median income in the visualization.
Okay, and? Sorry if I have a bit of a snarky tone throughout this comment, but it frankly annoys me when people bring up stuff like this. Yes, richer people exist, and mathematically the Swift family net worth (pre-Taylor’s career) was surely closer to a minimum wage family than to Jeff Bezos. I don’t expect anyone would suggest Mr. and Ms. Swift to be first at the guillotine if the revolution comes. I don’t even begrudge them using their wealth to help their daughter’s career. I bet most would do the same if they had the resources. But…
Minimum wage earners have more in common with her parents than her parents did with the truly wealthy.
Being able to invest anything, let alone 120,000$ into something as unsure as a pop music career, is very foreign to me, a minimum wage earner. From my perspective, the Swift family had a heck of a lot more in common with the elite than with my peers. Sure, they didn’t have “buy-private-islands-and-tickets-to-space-Musk-Bezos” type money, but they clearly had enough money to never need or even want anything.
Comparing this with minimum wage earners is pretty shortsighted, even if mathematically their finances are closer to minimum wage earners than to the 0.0000001% of ultra wealthy. The leap from “closer in net worth mathematically” to minimum wage earners than the ultra wealth to “have more in common” with minimum wage earners than the ultra wealthy is just plain wrong. The math doesn’t represent the reality of these different financial situations. In reality, their lives were much closer to that of the elite than to the poor fucker buying their groceries in quarters at the Dollar Store.
The existence of people who have so much wealth the human mind can’t even conceive of it doesn’t negate the wealth the Swift family clearly had, and it certainly doesn’t mean their economic and social lives are closer to that of minimum wage earners than to the ultra wealthy.
You’re not wrong, but that doesn’t make you entirely right either. The “crabs in a bucket” mentality comes from attacking people who are doing slightly better than you. It might seem like they significant wealth, but they can still be bankrupted by a chronic medical diagnosis or any other of a million things. I choose to focus on the real issue - the 0.0001% and not people making 4 or 5 times the median income.
You have a point that there’s a huge difference in the life of a minimum wage family and a family able to invest 6 figures. Context matters though and I think the point was that they didn’t have an overwhelming amount that can force success; we’re talking about a financial-secure and supported start that enables pursuit of things that are unlikely to pan out. Still no small luxury, by any means.
even if mathematically their finances are closer to minimum wage earners than to the 0.0000001% of ultra wealthy.
FWIW 0.1% is already 38 million dollars (net worth, US, 2012 data).
They worked mid-level jobs in finance, which pays well compared to most careers, but it’s just on the higher end of middle class. I know several successful people in the music industry and that’s honestly a pretty common story. They all had high end instruments and gear at a young age. One band I know had a dedicated jam space at one of their father’s warehouses. They could leave their gear set up in a secure location and play loud anytime for as long as they liked. Things like that really contribute to success.
The Kid Laroi is another example of it. Both parents were in the industry and he had a development contract at 14. At 17 he was living with Juice Wrld and doing remixes with Miley Cyrus and Justin Bieber. That doesn’t happen by accident.
That explains how she had a headstart in her career, but has nothing to do with her being so popular right now.
Besides the insanely huge help she had on the beginning, the bigger part was for sure the knowledge transfer in terms of how to run a monetary wise successfull business.
And yes she is talented, I’m not saying she isn’t. But the advantage she had, due to this, speak for itself.
Taylor’s dad got her daughter a label to help make her a star, but I think that Taylor might not have done as well if she went through typical music industry channels. Taylor wasn’t a Rebecca Black kind of artist; she wrote a lot of her own music and was able to define her image as herself at a time when that wasn’t common at that time.
Keep in mind she came up around the time the music industry has lost most of its revenue due to streaming. The music industry would have commonly invested in Taylor like artists a decade or two ago, but the economics of doing that wasn’t there. Self promotion and funding also wasn’t that uncommon, a lot of the rap around that time came out under the same model of artists promoting their own work before getting signed; Taylor just had more resources.
But even then, daddy buying an label would explain a one hit wonder, or maybe even a good album or two. It wouldn’t explain Taylor’s sustained success. Money only goes so far.
Oh shnit, I didn’t even know about this. Okay that explains at least a bit.
Thanks.
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Why did so many 12- year- olds buy Batman T-shirts in 1989? Other T-shirts were surely available?
Yeah why do boys like coola super heroes with a cool tv show and awesome design? I guess we’ll never know.
It was about a specific movie, that was HEAVILY marketed, not a TV show.
Sure, but the batman shirts didn’t win dozens of awards and generate the GDP of several countries
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Watch out, there’s something over your head!
I’m with you dude, she has a completely unremarkable to me as well.
In terms of her songs and dancing, definitely.
But I really think this threat has pointed out why she’s so successful.
Squeaky clean image so she can be played everywhere, great marketing, high production, clever lyrics, a lot of community outreach, autobiographical social media and songs, and I finally understand why people talk about her business acumen after I listened to a podcast about her eras tour and how much was self produced.
She’s knocking it out of the park on every front she can while focusing solely on the music industry.
Definitely an interesting phenomenon.
I’m still not wild about her music, but I was very curious how someone so young can become so successful when she sounds so similar to all of the other artists I’ve grown up listening to.
In a word: marketing. In two words: relentless marketing.
Best answer in the thread
Her dad owned the record company. They are rich. $$$$
Her dad owned 5% of the record company.
Don’t get me wrong, that’s an advantage most will never have, it’s connections, it’s expertise, it’s starting ahead of the pack, and most of all to my mind, it’s certainty that you won’t be wasting your life by focusing on your art, but it’s also just not accurate to pretend that’s all she has going for her when she was richer than her parents after first album.
Her songs are produced by the CIA and contain subliminal messages that make her irresistible.
This makes about as much sense to me as the apparent means by which he has become this successful.
He/she is obviously kidding.
Not me, I only speak in serious absolutes.
Why so serious?
Either that or I’m a republican.
See, that comment right there, means you’re probably not.
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Think of a dish made by a world class chef, that food is probably exquisitely crafted using unique and fresh ingredients. There probably aren’t that many people out there who truly appreciate it, and probably a lot who just think it’s weird.
Now think of pizza. It’s relatively cheap and broadly appealing. It wouldn’t be put in the same class as the food prepared by the chef, but a lot more of it gets consumed.
Taylor Swift is talented, pretty, affable, has a superior work ethic, and makes music that’s catchy and easily digestible. Like pizza, her music appeals to the broadest group of people.
The world class chef can only cook for a few at a time. Digital distribution means big voice.
I like this explanation, but I feel like there are plenty of other artists who fit into that category.
Is it just random that they had to pick one brand of pizza to go crazy over do you think?
Luck and timing are big factors. There are many talented artists out there that work hard and make the kind of music that (in theory) should appeal to a large audience but never make it. Either at all or not to the level of Taylor Swift. If you make the right music at the right time, your chances increase but you still need luck.
Edit: what I’ve heard of Taylor is that she’s very good in making the right music at the right time. The songs fit the trends in music. But I’ve never listened much to her, so I don’t know for sure if its correct
Thanks, someone else compared her to other pop stars like Michael Jackson and Madonna, and all of those people were at the forefront of their particular movement.
I feel like Taylor Swift is just in the middle of all the other pop stars.
Appreciate it, I’m going to try and look into it from that perspective, maybe I just don’t understand the music world at all. I definitely don’t.
I just remembered a big factor as to why artists such as Madonna have a long career: they managed to appeal to the queer crowd, who tend to be fiercely dedicated to anyone who stands up for them.
Don’t forget the money and connections. IIRC her father literally created a bought(?) or created(?) a label to sign her. There a lot more talented artists out there but she had the money and connections that gave her a very big headstart.
The pizza has been carefully crafted by teams of experts to appeal to the largest audience.
As someone who couldn’t name a single Swift song up until a couple of months ago — From what I read she writes the vast majority of her songs, which is exceptionally rare for pop stars; especially from such a young age… The songs may be simplistic and formulaic, but the lyrics are decent for the age they were written at, and the work ethic and genre jumping is impressive. The most admirable thing about her is how she’s screwing venture capitalists by re-recording all the songs she wrote. I hope she starts redistributing all that wealth she’s extracting.
Ok just don’t forget she came from money and had opportunities:
She traveled there with her mother at age eleven to visit record labels
That definitely helps. I think it’s interesting that access to uncommon opportunities is generally presented as a negative thing in Taylor Swift’s case but ignored for Michael Jackson or even contemporaries like Beyonce.
Oh no I’ll happily call out anyone for that.
And are there not plenty of other popular artists?
There are, and none with so many awards or the same kind of popularity.
My brother is a swiftie and seems to think that her talent is above and beyond a standard artists talent. One thing that is praised is how much range she has covered across her albums.
I’m personally not a fan, and to me she seems overrated, but I also have to recognize the mass following and legitimate consistency in the music quality. She’s not like a Katy Perry recycling the same tune.
So I think she’s like a really nice pizza, appealing but always good quality, always fresh.
A couple people have mentioned her range, but they also only mention her relationship and breakup songs. What else does she sing about that gives her range?
When people talk about her range they are usually talking about musical styles, she has a lot of different sounds. Not all of her songs are about relationships, but probably most of them, they are not all about breakups though. That isn’t too uncommon though, probably one of the most common things people sing about.
Totally agree, relationships breakups probably cover a large percentage of pop music anyway.
Does she have a lot of different sounds just in pop music or does she also delve into completely different genres?
Probably not like Andre 3000 going out and making an ambient album, but there are a lot of differences stylistically. For example her pandemic albums Folklore and Evermore are a lot less traditional pop, and can be more folk sounding. Doing some songs with Bon Iver helped that too.
I think a lot of times people associate her with bubblegum pop from a lot of the singles that came out maybe ten years ago and were heavily played on the radio but that hasn’t been the sound for a while.
Thanks, got it
She might not recycle the same tune, but it kinda seems like she recycles the same themes verbatim. I’d say she’s closer to Papa John’s than a good quality pizza shop. Her music is probably good, but I doubt that it’s usually great.
You have to explore all her albums in order to really form that opinion. People who like that kind of music will do so, and likely decide that she is phenomenal.
But then folks like you and me will not want to take time to ingest all that music that doesn’t appeal to us, so we have to speculate based off what we get exposed to which is generally her pop songs on the radio and such. But we aren’t really getting the full Taylor Swift. So it’s like we’re judging a sample of her stuff (which sounds like a lot of other pop cuz all pop sounds basically the same) and oversimplify what she offers to music.
I’m completely speculating… Like I said we’d have to dive into all those albums and listen to really form a meaningful opinion.
She’s pretty and blond as well… oh, and white.
It’s like Britney all over again.
What is Taylor’s ‘Toxic’ though?
That girl invests in real estate, she’s not stupid enough to make a song like that.
How fucking dare you. That’s an absolute banger.
But way way bigger and with way more awards. And records.
And smarter, a lot smarter than Britney.
Does this take any effort though?
What, being smart?
Being smarter than Britney.
Smart, pretty, rich parents in positions to boost her early career, generic songs that young women and girls everywhere can project their own issues onto, blonde and white, early career (and again, blonde pretty and white) made her more popular with the country crowd, tons of luck…
Talent can only get you so far.
She is a damn fine businesswoman. She was able to use social media to have a relationship with her followers and build a large audience. That’s one of the main reasons she became famous.
Also, there have been a couple of situations that benefited her fame, such as the Kanye incident
“Relationship”… More like getting liked because she is pretty.
Uh oh, someone is upset because a beautiful woman is also good at other things.
You are right - beautiful woman are always good at things. Can’t criticize them because that’s just out of bounds. :)
Cause that’s totally what I said 🤣
Thanks
Gordon Ramsay isn’t the best chef on the world, still he has the most restaurants by a big margin
A ton of people would say Tswift is their ultimate fantasy fuck even though she isn’t the hottest girl on the planet (she still could be a model probably, being slim and tall)
Being famous always has a certain pull to it and if you do it right you can leverage being famous to become even more famous
Worlds top athletes are overpaid (at least in team sports) would you rather have the #1 player or a team full of top 100 players… Well the #1 player sells a ton of merch, but almost always the team with more depth is winning games (if the budget is equal)
Top athletes are grossly underpaid. Basketball straight up truncates them. Giannis would make at least double on the open market. Football, the best players make the same as second and third tier players at their position, entirely dependent on when they hit FA.
Just like pizza, artist go off after a while. (It just takes longer)
Except for all of the artists who don’t.
And a lot of the artists who do “go off” don’t get 81 awards in a decade and a half.
Is she NY style or deep dish?
I disagree with this. She’s a pretty amazing song writer, which is really uncommon for pop stars. I can see why someone would think she’s more like pizza if you only listen to the hits, but if you actually sit down and listen to a whole album you’ll find that there aren’t many songs that are just flat-out bad. Actually, one my favorites by her is a B side. You can actually track her progress as a musician from fairly generic country artist to someone who has a really unique and uncomplicated sound. I mean, I get why people go for the “simple = easy”, but that’s simply not the case. It’s really difficult to write a song that is as clean and as well put together as she does and still have it be good. To continue your food metaphor, Taylor would be like sushi; there doesn’t have to be a ton of ingredients to be incredibly delicious.
Then you also have to consider that she’s Gen Z, has been doing this for 18 years, and has managed to stay fairly relevant most of that time. Like she really is the only Gen Z pop star who has managed to stay in the limelight without dropping out of being a complete tool (Justin Bieber).
You also have to consider that for a long time she had a carefully crafted public image as a champion of the LGBTQ+ community. Whether she actually is or isn’t doesn’t really matter (I personally think it’s a lot of rainbow-washing) when you have bops like “You Need to Calm Down”. Or the fact that she features a bunch of trans people in the video she directed for “Lavender Haze”.
How is she an amazing song writer? What song do you think stands out and is amazing?
I feel like this is kind of a trap question. Everything about this entire thread feels that way - I don’t want it to seem as if I’m attacking you here - and it’s a microcosm of why discussion of Swift is so polarizing. For some reason, she, more than any other artist I can call to mind, is discussed in black and white terminology. There’s almost no middle ground. You need to either love her or hate her.
Does she possess the lyrical genius of, like, Leonard Cohen? I mean, I don’t know. I think she’s pretty great, but back in the day I’d have been stoned to death on r/Music for suggesting they were in the same league.
What I will say is I think she’s as honest as Cohen was, and that’s something the best songwriters all have. I think she writes from an extremely authentic place, and I respect the hell out of that. In recent years, I think co-writing with Jack Antonoff has only further unlocked her potential.
Some examples of hers I think are great - You’re On Your Own Kid, Champagne Problems, and My Tears Ricochet.
Her pop stuff has some great lyricism as well, but pop music as a genre is generally under appreciated for its lyrics. Obviously, not in all cases; there’s a shitload of manufactured garbage out there. But most of the 1989 album is borderline - if not outright - excellent in this regard. It didn’t get any serious attention though until that shitbag Ryan Adams covered the whole thing, and got people to hear the lyrics in a different way.
I understand you feel that way. But this thread made me give her a chance, so I listened to a couple of her albums. They were pretty decent. Catchy music, good car music. So I get it, she is pretty good. I guess I wouldn’t call her amazing but I can see how others may feel that way.
I haven’t looked into her lyrics yet. If she is honest, that sounds great to me.
Thank you. :)
She’s a pretty amazing song writer, which is really uncommon for pop stars.
Just because you make pizza, doesn’t mean you don’t make great pizza. I’m not saying she’s out here making $0.99 Mr. P’s Pizzas (“fabulous” in their own right).
Then you also have to consider that she’s Gen Z, has been doing this for 18 years, and has managed to stay fairly relevant most of that time.
I’ve considered it, but it’s not true. She may appeal to Gen Z but she was born in '89, making her dead center of being a millennial.
I’ve never said she’s bad, but if you’ve ever listened to more complex music, her’s isn’t that. She’s great at what she does, and seemingly smart and levelheaded, and that’s fantastic. But to say her songs are masterpieces that are like beautifully woven tapestry of lyrics and music, I don’t see it. And, in all fairness, if they were, she’d probably have a fan base 95% smaller.
Taylor for me is extremely emotional and autobiographical. I connect emotionally with her songs in a way that allows me to feel what she’s feeling. Music is emotional and usually has a message, but for me her music does make me feel more.
Which makes sense, I always loved pink Floyd for their art and what they were trying to say, I usually am an emotional person, and I think for a lot of people that’s why she’s popular.
You have an emotion you’re working through? She’s got a song for it.
I don’t think a more wildly different artist to TS could be found than Pink Floyd. Things they have in common: are human. Trolling or what?
Lol nope, I’m a fan of both. People don’t need to be put in buckets where they only like something’s and not others.
I’ve seen Roger Waters twice, watched him build the wall on stage and send out the inflatables, and it kicked ass.
Also saw Eras last year in person, and it was the most precise well thought out concert I’ve seen.
No rules in life saying you can’t like both
Thank you for your answer, I’m glad to hear from a fan of hers.
So her songs are making you feel something in a way other female artists who sing about breakups do not?
Does she mostly sing about relationships? I haven’t listened to much of her stuff, just whatever is the popular stuff that I wouldn’t be able to avoid while I’m walking around.
And then the first few songs that pop up when I type in Swift on YouTube because I’m trying to figure out the answer to this question after she breaks like the 12th record of her career
Relationships were a key one in her earlier albums, but there’s a lot more. I think her singing about her experiences is part of the reasons millennials really tend to her especially, we kind of grew up with her
The awkward teenage years, the first loves, the deep friend connections, losing those friends, romantic betrayal, work betrayal, and more.
She also is extremely versatile. She’s played and experimented with different types of music. People like to shoehorn her into pop, but she’s done obviously country, pop, folk, a bit of rock, lover in my mind was a decent synth album, she’s played around with a lot
That’s why we all talk about her Eras, each era in her life she made an album, and that album usually has a different style. Personally my favorite is reputation, which was heavier and more electronic. Synth? Like I said try Lover or Midnights. Folk like Mumford and sons or Lumineers? Try Folklore and Evermore.
One thing for sure is that you don’t have to like everything or anything of hers, but she has such range that it is rare that someone hates every song of hers.
Also I should say I’m a mod of !taylorswift@poptalk.scrubbles.tech and the dozens of us lemmy swifties are always happy to have more members :)
I really like synth and I think they are her least referenced work in this post so far, but I’m very interested in listening to her synth albums.
Thanks
for me her music does make me feel more.
Which makes sense, I always loved Pink Floyd
What the actual fuck? That’s like comparing Rembrandt to the hot girl in your class who’s pretty good at drawing 3 different things 🤦
Sure didn’t expect her to be compared with Floyd.
This hurts.
Probably because it’s a very weird comparison to make. If I had to pick a polar opposite of pop music in most every way, I would probably pick one of the weirder pink Floyd albums.
Not weird at all. Roger Waters was extremely autobiographical with his music, he sang extensively about the war, family, and what he was going through. The Wall sure but The Final Cut was intense, dude has some emotions to process.
Taylor and him do the same thing, just different life experiences. He is more political but far, but she’s gone political, look at The Man, You Need to Calm Down, and one of her most scathing ones, Miss Americana and the Heartbreak Prince.
For shows as well I’ve never seen more well put on shows, Roger Waters with The Wall and Taylor with Eras, both extremely precise shows, they are both absolute showmen.
Alright I’ll give those songs a listen. I appreciate the response
