The ironic thing is, conflating any and all criticism of the state of Israel with anti-semitism could be argued as anti-semitic itself, because to suggest that jewish people in general and the Israeli state/military are one in the same such that criticism of the later is also hateful towards the former, is also to suggest that jewish people as a whole are responsible for the actions of Israel.
As cultural groups as a whole are inherently unable to be guilty of crimes (since even if a large number of people belonging to one commit some crime, such a group will also contain members that cannot be guilty of it, like young children), but states and similar entities, being organized and capable of decision-making, can be, then any attempt to link the moral culpability of a state and that of a cultural group is inherently to apply unfair accusations to that group, and thus hateful to it.
I’m going to start doing this now lol
Edit: pointing it out**
Israeli neozionist troll factory attempts have never really shied away from the public, with the most notable example being Act.IL, but that doesn’t make them harmless. Giving your identity away like this is the same as giving away your identity to Scientologists, expect a serious degree of gaslighting and bullshit to be headed the way of your personal and professional life.
And I do mean serious, because with extremists and radicals getting the reigns of government thanks to Netanyahu, foreign intervention having been normalized to such an excessive degree, and countries letting them get away with it so freely, expect the requirements to get labeled as part of a “problem group” to become significantly easier to achieve. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossad#Europe
Why the fuck is anyone for any reason using twitter anymore?
Bro can i just say that i fucking hate that anti-semetic is even an argument used when someone demonstrates support for Hamas? it doesnt even make sense because by definition both parties are semetic.
it doesnt even make sense because by definition both parties are semetic.
Oof, either you’re just grossly misinformed and performing a cringey “ackchually”, or you’re anti-semitic yourself and perpetuating anti-semitic rhetoric.
While yes, both are Semitic people, the term ‘anti-semitic’ was specifically coined by Nazi Germany to make their genocide seem like it had a basis in science. They specifically used it to refer to Jews. Nobody uses “anti-semitic” to mean all semites except hate groups and holocaust deniers who are trying to say “see, it doesn’t even mean Jews specifically! Jews are just playing the victim!”
I will assume you’re simply ignorant or misinformed, but feel free to correct me if this was actually an intentional dog-whistle.
Colloquially yeah it makes a lot of sense to say Hamas is antisemitic, the word means hatred for Jews regardless of the etymology of ‘semite’. Take it up with marriam-webster, not the people correctly using the modern definition of the word
Hamas Charter, excerpt.
16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.if you choose to believe that Hamas is not antisemitic that’s your prerogative. I only note that so long as there is a hatred of Jews the word is being used correctly.
I hear both (non-settler) Jews and Christians live in Gaza, that wouldn’t be possible if Hamas was all about Jew hating…
Where have you heard Jews live in Gaza?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Jews
Israeli Jews is what most people think in this context
After the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, the Jews of Mandatory Palestine became Israeli citizens, and the term Palestinian Jews has largely fallen into disuse and is somewhat defunct, in favour of the modern term Israeli Jews.
It says in the wiki article that they became Israeli citizens. What are you on about?
Who the fuck supports Hamas? It’s an actual terrorist organization that’s oppressing people in Palestine
Every source I find suggests that Hamas has significant support from the people of Palestine
Damn I wonder why the people being subjected to genocide support the group fighting the genociders?
I just can’t work it out.
You would be surprised. Some people are fucking insane.
I think there is a very good argument of antisemitism if you support Hamas. There is no argument for antisemitism if you support Palestinians.
The battle cry of abusive assholes, worldwide!
The genocide will continue until morale improves
I think a big part of it, here in the US, is besides all the post WW2 sentiment, a lot of folks here in the bible belt literally think they are God’s chosen people, and so whatever they do is right by God, no matter how terrible. I recently showed up for jury duty and was speaking to a lady there about her son who had joined the Marine Corps. and thought he might get deployed, and she said, I shit you not, “At least he’ll be fighting for God’s people”.
I’ve seen antisemitism. I’ve been in online communities that slowly devolved into rat caricatures and conspiracy theories about how Jews are out to destroy the world. So I know that modern antisemitism persists and is a thing to watch out for. But it’s not antisemitic to admit that Zionist Israel is butchering innocent people because they want to claim all of Palestine for themselves, and that the west is too weak willed to do anything about it for fear of being called antisemitic, or going against “God’s chosen people”. That’s not antisemitism, it’s an objective, observable fact.
The even bigger issue is the Bible Belt is those moron’s reading of Revelation, which has them thinking Israel has to control Jerusalem for the rapture to happen.
That’s actually a requirement?
Do they have to hold up the Holy Grail and yell out “Jewmanji”, too?
The scary part is they very much may just do that. NSO Group is based outta Israel, it’s honestly terrifying. The man has much larger balls than some may realize.
Just do what? It sounds like you’re saying they’d hurt the journalist but the only context available makes it seem like you could be talking about the onion headline.
Edit: Did a little reading, fuck they’re scary.
NSO is apparently quite formidable in terms of hacking as well, to the point where apple actively sued them: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2021/11/apple-sues-nso-group-to-curb-the-abuse-of-state-sponsored-spyware/
IDK about this group in particular but at the moment Israel holds the record for most journalists murdered in wartime.
There’s 2 reasons for that:
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They’re attacking one of the most densely populated areas in the world
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They’re committing a genocide - when they want to wipe out the entire population, journalists are going to get killed in their indiscriminate attacks.
They’re far-right too, so they’re a half-step from flat out executing dissenting journalists (and how are journalists in Palestine likely to be aligned?).
Isreal has a database of all the people living in Gaza as well as their places of residency. Most (if not all) of the prominent Palestinian journalists have been killed in their homes, along with their families, in strikes using smart munitions during the first few days of the “war”. It’s giving Isreal too much credit to say they weren’t specifically targeted.
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…did he get his prize?
if anything, it was probably a death threat.
Should’ve snitched on himself for the prize
Golda Meir once said “After the Holocaust, Jews are free to do whatever they want”.
Since then, Palestinians have been paying for the crimes of Nazi Germany.
Best take on this. A lot of Jewish people said “we must never let this happen again,” but some motherfuckers took notes.
Everyone post-WW2: “Never again”
- Some people: “Never again should that be inflicted on anyone”
- Other people: “Never again should that be inflicted on the Jewish”
There’s a YouTube channel covering WWII week by week, and there’s a sister series called War Against Humanity, which covers the atrocities committed on all sides—not just the a death camps and the murders in the ghettos, but firebombing campaigns, the Japanese internment camps, the Bata’an death march, the famine in India at the hands of the Raj, and so on. Every episode ends with host Spartacus Olsson repeating the phase that we should be using, “Never forget”. Because a huge contingent of us seems to be forgetting.
The Israeli government is murdering children and committing war crimes, and they’re upset about what The Onion has to say about it.
They are targeting the press, they really care about public opinion
They’re also full on slaughtering the press too.
So a rundown of what they’re doing
- Killing 2 civilians for every 1 Hamas
- Killing children (50% of Gaza is under 18)
- Killing journalists
They’re 100% correct Hamas needs to be wiped out because Hamas wants Jews to not exist, but goddamn the ends to not justify the means.
They’ve lost the fucking plot.
Mark my words anti-Semitism is going to continue it’s crescendo and it’s 100% because of the IDF and that asshat running Israel.
Hamas charter excerpt.
16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.The IDF also says it’s not genociding. Military groups are known for their trustworthiness
Good to know they uphold this text by not publicly murdering and raping random civilians in their homes and proudly sharing the video.
Does that mean Israel needs to be wiped out because they don’t want Palestinians to exist?
