Why, yes! You would be able to roll for it in one of my games!
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Yeah agreeing with the other comments. I see what you mean but tell me what you want to convey beyond just a charisma check. Or if lieing just tell me what you want them to think instead of describing every word
Just channel Johnny Bravo.
Or Austin Powers.
Make it so over the top that they never ask you to elaborate again.
I both really want you in my game and really don’t now. You scare me.
This is why I don’t play the face. I’m cool with being the horc barbarian.
well… you free this weekend? lol
My old DM: Eloberate how your engineering character would build a radio. Me: idk but the roll you asked me to was 20 and my character has knowledge sooo? DM: Well you try to but you fail due to the lack of a plan.
Yeah I don’t like having him as a DM. Especially if he had knowledge about these things like first aid. No I didn’t know how you suture someone exactly by my character is a fucking proffesional doctor.
It was also really fun if he then let some npc do it flawlessly immediately afterwards, really didn’t feel like you could accomplish anything in his world.
Luckily I have stopped playing with him and found others.
Yeah, that sucks. I do the “elaborate” thing as well, but that’s mostly because i want the player to have a chance to roleplay and give creative input. If they’re having trouble coming up with something i’ll just try to fill in the gaps.
That or i’m deciding if what they’re asking is even possible, in which case they shouldn’t roll until after i make the call. ( In general you shouldn’t roll unless prompted by your GM)
You have to give something to work with. How are you persuading the guy? Are you leveraging authority, trying to guilt them into following you, offering them something? I need something to work with, I’m not asking you to make the argument yourself
I feel this.
I love to play but am horrible at RP or explaining things out.
Let’s say you want to haggle a better price at a shop.
You can start by explaining that to your DM.
They might ask how, and you can just generally describe what you’d like to do.
Not sure how to explain? Ask the DM to better describe the shop or individual.
Then pick something, maybe they have a sweet hat, or a cool earring. Maybe the store looks really clean or maybe all the other patrons are dressed fancy. Maybe you can investigate the craftsmanship of the weapon or shield and compliment the shop owner.
The important thing is you pick something, it doesn’t matter what. Maybe that earring you commented on is a family heirloom. Roll well and the shopkeep is reminded of their family an gives you the family and friends discount. Roll poorly and the shopkeep is reminded of how their family was brutally murdered and they ask you to leave.
I like the middle ground and want a baselin roleplay. So I know what you trying to do, because you appalling to a bandits honor may not work as well as it would with a knight.
The dice result and the passive persuasion compensate for your real life skill or lack.
The question to ask there is “what’s your approach?” The dice will smooth out wrinkles, but I need to know how to narrate the success or fail, otherwise, any persuasion will be you saying “aw, c’mon!” And that gets a bit boring, unless you’re on a hot streak and everyone crumples to your plea
You don’t necessarily need to roleplay, but something like “I would like to play on their guilt by seeming hopeless.” or “I would like to bring up the horrible acts of the orc warlord to stoke their anger.” or “I would like to convince them to help by pointing out how their oaths may apply in this situation.” would really help sell the specifics. If you are just trying a flat check I have no real way to know what you are planning on doing other than just sort of charmingly asking “Please?”
Something that is also helpful in this situation is to ask what their Intent is with their action. The why they want to do it. Often striking up that conversation looses some blocks.
You don’t need to think of something good to say, just throw something random out and roll. It makes the situation funnier imo