And this is why Democrats will keep losing.

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    The elite Democrats aren’t worried about fighting back.

    They are trying to figure out how they can win the next round AND HOW THEY WILL USE THE SYSTEM TO THEIR OWN ADVANTAGE ONCE THEY REGAIN CONTROL.

    We need another party that is actually for the people.

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        Green “Sitting Down With Putin For Dinner” Party?

        Yeah, we want a party not beholden to oligarchs…

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          How big is the green party?

          How many of them do you suppose vote in the green party primaries?

          How many people do you think it might take to just walk in and take it over?

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          Alright if that’s your view of it then fine, punch them down, but prop something up that’s suitable. America is on fire right now. The people need something to rally behind that isn’t MAGA. All the opposition wants to do is infight. There’s nothing uniting everyone except Fuck Trump.

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            Did it matter in WW2 that the Allies didn’t have more to rally behind than Fuck Hitler? Anything is more suitable than fascism.

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              WWII was Hitler and friends going out and killing the neighbors. If he was just an asshole, the war wouldn’t have happened.

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          I’d love to see them do something other than show up every 4 years and only for President, too.

          That brand has been ruined, as far as I can tell. Also, the name just screams single issue…

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            Yup, the “only turning up to attempt to spoil the presidential race for the democrat candidate every 4 years” just screams “Russian plant” to me. If they actually wanted to affect change, they would start at the local level and grow from there. But they aren’t actually interested in changing anything; They just want to poach votes from democrats, to hand the win to republicans.

            At best, if we assume they actually have good intentions, they’re the equivalent of jumping straight into the deep end of the pool without even knowing how to swim. Except they keep jumping in every 4 years, despite the fact that they have put zero effort into learning how to swim.

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              They are active throughout all the year. Just that they get ignored by the corporate media until it is election time. Almost as if the corporate media has an interest to only use them for diversion and not in honestly representing their political positions.

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            There is green partys all over the world and they cover all political topics.

            What do you want parties to be called to not sound single issue?

            The party for peace and prosperity under a reasonably regulated economy with free education and workers right, environmental protection and representative democracy and a yet to develop position on electric vehicle subsidies…

            And one of their opponents would be:

            The party for peace and prosperity under a reasonably regulated economy with free education and workers right, environmental protection and representative democracy and a no subsidies for electric vehicles but more for public transport…

            So the PPURREFEWREPRDYDPEVS vs. the PPURREFEWREPRDNSEVMPT

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              Look, I’m just saying that looking like they are only about the environment is a non-starter in the USA, anyway. Hate to say it, but the Green Party is more or less a punchline in the United States. When it comes down to it, everyone wants clean air and clean water - even the cons don’t want pollution where THEY live (and most normal Americans understand the stakes when it comes to climate change).

              But as a brand…the qons have done so much to smear anyone concerned primarily with environmental things as just a hippy-dippy granola dipstick that is into jam bands - it’s a caricature for sure, but it works.

              A party needs to have broader appeal than just that.

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                But people don’t consider the Republicans as a single issue party, that want a republic, or the Democrats as a single issue party, that want democratic elections.

                For the green parties, claiming them to be single issue is a narrative that is repeated, for instance by corporate media that does not want people to realize that there is more progressive political positions than privatized healthcare and a limited number of sick days.

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          Democratic Party: “The green party are con artists that are bought out by the Russians and only show up every 4 years, so anything except the Democrats is completely nonviable”

          Democrat voters: “Oh my god! The green party are con artists that are bought out by the Russians and only show up every 4 years, so anything except the Democrats is completely nonviable”