• ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 days ago

    “Was getting tired Brave, and noticed they mentioned Firefox in their ads. Was curious what that was and upon launching Firefox, immediately I felt something, my disappointment is no longer immeasurable, and my day is no longer ruined!”

    brave = 0/5 🤮

    Firefox = 6/5 😎

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    9 days ago

    I dont like brave for other reasons, but this is definitely a good look. Tor Browser has to patch a lot of issues to make Firefox safe

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    9 days ago

    Broke one of the golden rules of advertising (at least the advertising lessons I learned from an old advertising guy I knew a long time ago)

    Never mention your competition in your advertising … because every time you do, you’ve given them free advertising.

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      And it’s just bad to say, for example, about other person or country. Like some candidate for president in other liberal country will say “yes, we have issues, but hey, at least we are not like shitty Texas where abortion mostly illegal, so vote for us!”

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    Braves like the only browser that works for some piracy sites, the rest (with extensions) you get a ton of ads, broken sitesx or get stuck at some link shorteners. Vfx med specifically I tried every browser. For regular browsing I like firefox but annoyingly enough brave handles video a lot better never crashing, youtube is always fast with hella tabs, I’m just used to and stuck with firefox because I have so many tabs/windows open rnow

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    8 days ago

    I think anyone who is already using Firefox knows very well why they wouldn’t want to use Brave 🤷 (My main reasons were being a Chromium browser and having unwanted crypto features included.)

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      Kind of funny they list their built-in, paid VPN as a positive feature and not a negative. Maybe they were running out of good things to say about… Themselves.

      Granted, Mozilla also shot themselves in the foot by saying Firefox was better for not blocking ads by default, but that’s a different story for a different day

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      The real good: Baked in Youtube ad-blocking with a full dev team playing keep up with youtube Better at anti-fingerprinting Built-in mediocre TOR support.

      The real bad: They will sell your data. They will sell your data from their VPN

      The rest of their bad is optional. Don’t use them for search and don’t use their crypto.

      If you’re going to use them, at least keep a fully equivalently outfitted copy of firefox, you don’t want to get stuck if they finally decide to turn full evil.

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        if they finally decide to turn full evil.

        Yeah this is the brave experience. Free and open source product that behaves as advertised… from a company that acts like they’re perpetually on the brink of fucking you over. Really hope this doesn’t happen, brave’s approach to antifingerprinting is actually quite interesting and completely different to what we see in the firefox-based hardened browsers.

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          I honestly really like what they do with the fingerprinting. But it’s just a straight trade. Now amazon can’t follow me directly, but Brave will certainly sell Amazon the info that I shopped at Home Depot looking for discontinued air filters :)

          FF fingerprinting with UO and privacy badger are by no means bad, they are actually quite acceptable.

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            What does privacy badger do that isn’t covered by UO? Is it worth it to install privacy badger if I already use a browser like librewolf that nukes all data every time it’s restarted?

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              It’s EFF’s tracker blocker. All they have is their name, so I have a lot of trust in them. I use it in concert with chrome and firefox based browsers. In FF it tightens up the tracking a bit. Doesn’t eat much ram/time.

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      9 days ago

      I mean, you could do this with anything

      nazism:

      -✅️ Very terrifying and intimidating uniforms

      Every other ideology:

      -❌️ Does not have terrifying and intimidating uniforms*

      *According to opinions of career nazis

      This is what Brave is doing 🙄

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        Well, actually it should be:

        -❌️ Limited or no terrifying and intimidating uniforms

        Firefox does block trackers by default, but apparently that’s “limited protection”, according to who the fuck knows, so it gets the ❌.

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      Points 1 and 2 are absolutely on FF. You can also set it to private by default. This is not a factual graphic.

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        Firefox started blocking YouTube ads without plugins?

        You can also set it to

        Grandma isn’t going to go into security settings. I really with FF would just make it the default on install.

        Everything in that list can easily be made the same, but they’re not the same without some basic knowledge of wanting it.

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          Grandma isn’t going to use Brave either.
          Nor is she going to click on ads to “earn” crypto coins.

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    8 days ago

    Firefox is my main browser, but I occasionally need a Chromium browser for technical reasons. I had been using Brave - note the past tense there. Any suggestions for my new secondary browser?

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        I tried a fair few browsers for android. Iceraven, Fulguris, Fennec, and Mull. I settled on Fulguris, because it was no frills with custom adblock lists and a good built in darkmode.

        However, Fulguris became a headache because any app that required a browser portal login wouldn’t recognize it.

        So I moved to Mull. Then Mull dropped the project. Mull, Iceraven, and Fennec are basically the same idea as Firefox derivatives.

        I use a free, massive coverage, open source icon pack called Delta and between Iceraven and Fennec I liked the Fennec icon more.

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    9 days ago

    It honestly might be true

    Firefox and Brave both suck a bit in terms of privacy. They could be worse but they also could be way better.

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      Firefox and Brave both suck a bit in terms of privacy.

      Okay, I’ll bite: how does Firefox suck in terms of privacy?

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        9 days ago

        The main problem is the telemetry and targeted advertising.

        However, it also could have a bit better defaults from a fingerprinting resistance perspective.

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          The targeted advertising happens locally in your browser. It doesn’t upload your data to anywhere, so I don’t see how that’s relevant for privacy.

          Similarly, I find it hard to imagine that they’d be able to personally identify a person from what they send in telemetry (see about:telemetry). I guess, if you install an add-on called “I’m Seymour Skinner from Springfield, USA”, then they could, but even then, worst-case they know when you use the browser…